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Old Weather: Arctic => Shipyard => Bear => Topic started by: Randi on December 17, 2016, 03:36:28 pm

Title: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 17, 2016, 03:36:28 pm
Welcome to Bear (1914) and a new phase of Old Weather.

As before, this topic is for asking questions and sharing information.
Now it will also be used to help coordinate transcriptions as we develop the new system.



Link to log books:
Link to first page of log books



You may find some useful background information in Bear -- Reference: Transcription Example and Log Description (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3615.0).
However the transcribing instructions no longer apply.

Helpful sources:
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 17, 2016, 03:36:59 pm
Link to log page assignment tracker:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B79AVnuaPynAM3IzNlR2RlQ0eHc

The file name is Bear 1914 Tracker. Double-click on it to edit it online. If you download it to make changes they won't appear in the online version.

Post here if you have any questions about the Tracker, or would like a Moderator or Shipherd to take care of signing out a page assignment for you.

A link to a detailed How-To for using the Tracker will be posted here when it's completed.



Link to transcribing spreadsheet:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B79AVnuaPynAU3p3T0pmSS1CZ1k

The file name starts with Bear_1914 (example: Bear_1914_v1p602.ods). The version number may be different than shown in the example, so download the one you see in the directory. Post a question here if you have any concerns about which file you need.



Link to upload directory:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B79AVnuaPynAend2WWpDR3p6VTA
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 17, 2016, 03:37:08 pm
Walking through the log pages by manually editing the address is easy.
For example:



It can also be done using Craig's AutoHotKey program (OW_navigate.ahk). Below is a version customized for Bear (1914).

Open the starting page in your default browser, press Alt+t to capture the page URL, and then Alt+right-arrow or Alt+left-arrow to advance or back up.

Code: [Select]

#NoEnv  ; Recommended for performance and compatibility with future AutoHotkey releases.
; Warn  ; Enable warnings to assist with detecting common errors.
SendMode Input  ; Recommended for new scripts due to its superior speed and reliability.
SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir%  ; Ensures a consistent starting directory.

;...
; Craig's OW_navigate.ahk with Randi's modifications for Bear
;
; For this script to work, a jpg image of an OW log page must be open in your default browser (not in the Interface!).
; First, double click OW_navigate.ahk in your file manager (where you have previously copied it)
; Then, select the log page image and press Alt + t in order to capture the current URL
;
; Then use the following arrow keys to navigate:
; Alt + left-arrow brings up previous page
; Alt + right-arrow brings up next page
;
;
;Note: You must release the Alt key between each action; if you hold it down and press an arrow it will only work once.
; You only need to press Alt t when you begin or if you load a new log page; not when you are navigating with this script
;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

!t:: ; Alt+t
 
;get the URL of active tab
Send, {F6} ; highlights URL
sleep 100 ; needs a short delay between sends
Send, ^c ; copy to clipboard
sleep 100
URL = %clipboard%
Msgbox,,, %URL%, .5


a:= instr(URL,".jpg") ; find ".jpg" in the title
if a>0 ;".jpg" was found
 Seq:=SubStr(URL,a-4,4) ; extract the page sequence number
else ;.jpg was not found in the title
 MsgBox, A jpg image of an OW log page  must be open and selected before running this script
 
return

;........... HOTKEYS...................................

!left:: ;go to previous page
 nseq :=seq - 1
 if nseq between 1 and 9
    nseq:= 000 . nseq
 if nseq between 10 and 99
    nseq:= 00 . nseq
 if nseq between 100 and 999
    nseq:= 0 . nseq
 
 StringReplace, URL2, URL, _%seq%, _%nseq%

 Msgbox,,, Previous page   %nseq%, .5 ; This statement must be here or the Ctrl F4 won't work
 Send, ^{F4} ; this closes the active window in Firefox
 run, %URL2%

 seq:= nseq
 URL:= URL2
 return



!right:: ;go to next page
 nseq := seq + 1
 if nseq between 1 and 9
    nseq:= 000 . nseq
 if nseq between 10 and 99
    nseq:= 00 . nseq
 if nseq between 100 and 999
    nseq:= 0 . nseq

 StringReplace, URL2, URL, _%seq%, _%nseq%
 Msgbox,,, next page   %URL2%, 1 ; This statement must be here or the Ctrl F4 won't work
 Send, ^{F4} ; this closes the active window in Firefox
 run, %URL2%

 seq:= nseq
 URL:= URL2
return

Note: On my computer only the left Alt key works for this.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 17, 2016, 03:37:16 pm
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Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 17, 2016, 03:37:24 pm
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Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on December 20, 2016, 08:10:10 am
I'll have a look at this log book.

I was wondering if it would be useful to make a note of roughly where the ship goes during the log, it might help prioritise any future weather transcribing? I'll try it here and see if it's helpful.

Jan 1st to May 3rd - California
May 4th - En route North
May 24th - Unalaska
June 1st - off Nome
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on December 20, 2016, 08:55:57 am
I started using the log book link https://catalog.archives.gov/id/23695631 rather than the page URL as it's less fiddly than changing the URL. The image is good enough to work out if they are still at Mare Island without zooming in. I was hoping once I got to a page I wanted to be able to read properly I would swap back to using the page URL. However I can't work out an easy way to do this. On the OW interface you could just right click and 'copy image location'. I'll be able to find the page I want with a bit of guess work but if there's an easier way that anyone knows that would be good!
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on December 20, 2016, 01:51:47 pm
On the OW interface you could just right click and 'copy image location'. I'll be able to find the page I want with a bit of guess work but if there's an easier way that anyone knows that would be good!

You can right click on the download icon (down arrow pointing to a tray), paste that result in your browser, and delete the "?download=true" bit from the end.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 20, 2016, 02:27:29 pm
I was wondering if it would be useful to make a note of roughly where the ship goes during the log, it might help prioritise any future weather transcribing? I'll try it here and see if it's helpful.

Sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on December 20, 2016, 04:09:37 pm
Thanks Bob!
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on December 20, 2016, 09:49:09 pm
June 1st 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0189.JPG) - not much location detail as someone seems to have ripped the weather/location page out  >:(
If it's any help 8pm location 31st May 62 39N, 167 16W

4am-8am:-
4.30 sighted ice field on starboard beam and ahead.
Following lead through ice field.
Heavy ice fields, closely packed, from 8 to 10 miles off shore.

8am to Merid:-
in ice field. Received radiogram from Nome station that there was clear water three miles off shore. Worked through various leads on general course toward Nome.

Merid - 4pm
Steered general course NNW 1/2 W through leads in ice. 1:45 lead closed, moored ship to ice floe

4pm - 8pm:-
unmoored ship from ice and went ahead to the westward and northward through heavy field ice. At end of watch Nome City bore N 1/4 E, 10 miles.

8pm to mid:-
Going various courses and speeds through ice until 10:40 when made fast to ice pack 2.5 miles off Nome.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on December 21, 2016, 02:09:40 pm

June 2nd 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0190.JPG) - off Nome

8am to Merid:-
Ice breaking up in shore forming a lead and making it impossible for dog teams to come to ship.

Merid - 4pm.
1:00 underway; stood around ice pack and at 1:35 anchored in open water off Nome

7:45 underway and stood various courses full speed through ice field.

9:35 Cape Nome abeam distant 2.8 miles.
10:30 skirting ice pack looking for lead.
10:40 Unable to locate any lead turned and skirted ice pack looking for lead to Southward and Eastward.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 21, 2016, 02:47:46 pm
Thanks jil!
If you want to transcribe the mentions of ice here, that is great.
However just noting that ice is mentioned on a page is sufficient for now.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on December 21, 2016, 03:45:54 pm
OK Randi, I've just transcribed the next page but will resort to just noting the page as I suspect It might get a bit dull (and slow) after a while!

June 3rd 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0191.JPG) (despite the top of the page having been cut off  >:( ) - a bit further off Nome

Mid - 4am
in ice floes, making good general course of ESE

8:00am NW 1/4 N - 9 miles Cape Nome

8:48am moored ship to large ice floe in open water

Noon Cape Nome NW 3/8 N - 9 miles

4.00pm unmoored from ice floe and stood to Northward and eastward.
6.30pm moored to ground ice near Port Safety - 10 fms water at vessel. No leads visible to the Eastward towards St. Michael.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on December 21, 2016, 04:00:56 pm
Ice in June
4th - Norton Sound - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0192.JPG
5th - Norton Sound - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0193.JPG
6th - St. Michael - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0194.JPG
7th - St. Michael - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0195.JPG
8th - Norton Sound - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0196.JPG
9th - Bering Sea - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0197.JPG
10th - Bering Sea - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0198.JPG
11th - Bering Sea - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0199.JPG
12th - Bering Sea - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0200.JPG
13th - Norton Sound - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0201.JPG
14th - Norton Sound - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0202.JPG
15th - Nome - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0203.JPG
16th - Nome - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0204.JPG
17th - Bering Sea - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0205.JPG
18th - Bering Sea - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0206.JPG
19th - Bering Sea - no mention
20th to 25th - Emma Harbor, Siberia - no mention
26th - St. Lawrence Island - no mention
27th - St. Lawrence Bay - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0215.JPG
28th - Whalen, Siberia - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0216.JPG
29th - Port Jackson, Alaska - no mention
30th - Teller Reindeer Station - no mention
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 21, 2016, 04:01:58 pm
June 3rd 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0191.JPG) (despite the top of the page having been cut off  >:( ) - a bit further off Nome

Just wait till we find the person that did that!!!!!
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on December 24, 2016, 06:55:23 pm
(No) Ice in July
1st - Teller Reindeer Station - no mention
2nd - Teller Reindeer Station - no mention
3rd - At Sea & Nome - no mention
4th to 12th - Nome - no mention
13th to 14th - Norton Sound - no mention
15th to 20th - St. Michael - no mention
21st to 22nd - Norton Sound - no mention
23rd - Nome - no mention
24th - off St Lawrence Island - no mention
25th - St Lawrence Island - no mention
26th - St Lawrence Bay - no mention
27th - Big Diomede Island - no mention
28th to 29th - Teller Reindeer Station - no mention
30th - Cape Prince of Wales - no mention
31st - 66 33N, 167 24W - no mention
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on December 31, 2016, 07:48:11 pm
The Bear 1914 collection actually includes two log books. The second starts on December 1 (image 408), with a switch to single-page images as well.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on December 31, 2016, 09:11:28 pm
1914: http://catalog.archives.gov/id/23695631
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0001.JPG
January through November logs consist of pairs of pages with location on the left (data) and date on the right (events).
December is single pages. First page of "pair" has date, location, and data. Second page of "pair" has events
;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on January 01, 2017, 12:00:25 am
 :o

Exactly!  ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on January 02, 2017, 09:38:07 pm
July 27th (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0252.JPG)
Quote
Sent officer ashore to inquire after Lord Percy. Found Lord Percy and at 3:45 boat returned with Wm. Wheeler and John Tokluk?, who were Lord Percy's assistants.
4.15 Lord William Percy came on board for passage, bringing outfit and baggage.
I found an obituary (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1474-919X.1963.tb01595.x/pdf) for Lord William Percy which says he was an ornithologist (as well as being the 2nd son of the 7th Duke of Northumberland) and also a paper on Arctic Terns (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00063655709475891) which mentions some arctic terns collected by him in Siberia in August 1914.

Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on January 03, 2017, 05:59:00 pm
Ice in August
1st to 4th - Kotzbue Sound - No mention
5th - Cape Espenberg - No mention
6th - Kivalina - No mention
7th - Point Hope - No mention
8th - Cape Lisburne - No mention
9th - Icy Cape - Living up to it's name ICE! (and 'numerous walrus') https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0272.JPG
10th - Point Belcher - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0273.JPG
11th - Wainwright - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0274.JPG
12th - Wainwright Inlet - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0275.JPG
13th - Wainwright Inlet - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0276.JPG
14th - Wainwright Inlet - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0277.JPG
15th - Wainwright Inlet - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0278.JPG
16th - Wainwright Inlet - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0279.JPG
17th - Wainwright Inlet - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0280.JPG
18th - False Cape - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0281.JPG
19th - False Cape - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0282.JPG
20th - False Cape - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0283.JPG
21st - False Cape to Barrow - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0284.JPG
22nd - Barrow to Wainwright - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0285.JPG
23rd - 70 33N, 164 27W - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0286.JPG
24th - 70 35N, 173 23W - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0287.JPG
25th - 70 53N, 175 2W - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0288.JPG
26th - 70 47N, 174 56W - no mention
27th - 69 18N, 173 55W - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0290.JPG
28th - Cape Serdze, Siberia - no mention
29th - East Cape, Siberia - didn't see any ice but reports of ice conditions near Wrangel Island - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0292.JPG
30th - King Island - no mention
31st - Nome - no mention
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on January 03, 2017, 07:26:32 pm
July 27th (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0252.JPG)
Quote
Sent officer ashore to inquire after Lord Percy. Found Lord Percy and at 3:45 boat returned with Wm. Wheeler and John Tokluk?, who were Lord Percy's assistants.
4.15 Lord William Percy came on board for passage, bringing outfit and baggage.
I found an obituary (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1474-919X.1963.tb01595.x/pdf) for Lord William Percy which says he was an ornithologist (as well as being the 2nd son of the 7th Duke of Northumberland) and also a paper on Arctic Terns (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00063655709475891) which mentions some arctic terns collected by him in Siberia in August 1914.

That's fascinating :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on January 03, 2017, 07:48:33 pm
Another logbook junkie ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on January 07, 2017, 02:55:06 pm
Ice in September
1st to 4th - Nome - No mention
5th - Cape Riley, Port Clarence - No mention
6th - Whalen, Siberia - No mention
7th - 68 23N, 173 44W - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0307.JPG
8th - 69 41N, 176 00W - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0308.JPG
9th - 70 49N, 174 5W - https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0309.JPG
10th - 67 48N, 172 5W - No mention
11th - Cape Prince of Wales - No mention
12th - Teller Reindeer Station - No mention
13th to 19th - Nome - No mention
20th - St. Michael - No mention
21st - Norton Sound - No mention
22nd - 7 miles S of Point Spencer - No Mention (Assisting SS Corwin aground on shoal)
23rd - Teller Reindeer Station - No mention
24th - Off Nome - No mention (but phosphorescence on water)
25th - Nome - No mention
26th - King Island - No mention
27th - 63 04N, 171 54W - No mention (but phosphorescence on water)
28th - 59 24N, 171 2W - No mention
29th - 56 58N, 168 48W - No mention
30th - 55 18N, 166 00W - No mention
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on January 08, 2017, 08:56:06 pm
September 12th (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0312.JPG)
Quote
In accordance with Department telegram of the 4th instant, fired a national salute at noon in commemoration of the one hundredth anniversary of the writing of the Star Spangled Banner
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on January 08, 2017, 10:09:36 pm
 :D  Aww- that's really nice and well remembered!  I had no idea that it was such a gap between the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the writing of The Star Spangled Banner :)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on January 08, 2017, 10:12:36 pm
Different wars.  ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on January 09, 2017, 06:46:33 pm
8th September (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0308.JPG)
Quote
1:30 stopped and sent officer to board the "King and Winge". Learned that it has rescued the survivors of the "Karluk" on Wrangel Island at about 6:00am of the 7th instant.
2:30 the following named persons of the Canadian Arctic Expedition came on board:- John Munroe, R.F. Williamson, W.L. McKinlay, Burt M. McConnell, J.R. Hadley, E. Chafe, Robt. Templeman, H. Williams, F.W. Maurer, one Eskimo, his wife and 2 children, all of whom except Burt M. McConnell were rescued from Wrangell island.

More details on the Karluk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_voyage_of_the_Karluk) (the ship had been crushed in ice and various attempts were made to get to land before some made it to Wrangel Island) and a photo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_voyage_of_the_Karluk#/media/File:Karluk_survivors.jpg) of the survivors on board Bear.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on January 09, 2017, 11:00:22 pm
 8) 8)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on January 13, 2017, 06:47:59 am
October - December
1st to 14th Oct - Unalaska
15th Oct - heading South
27th Oct to 4th Nov - Seattle
5th Nov - heading South
11th Nov to 26th Dec - California

The 1914 National Archives file is made up of 12 monthly log books. The December one is spilt to single pages (all others double pages) with the comments page and date and location on the weather page typed ( :) but not the weather  :'(). The December log book ends on 26th.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on February 22, 2017, 01:31:10 am
Here's an OCR conversion of image 448 using commercial software (trial version, it's $120  :o ):

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0448.JPG

Doesn't look too bad.

Code: [Select]
Vessels reported ?_________________
Motor boats reported_______________
Gases of assistance----------------
Lives saved------------------------
Derelicts or obstructions removed-
Regattas or marine parades patrolled-,___
Drills held (enumerate).........    ,
............I......... Muster
__________________in8peotron.
RECORD OF THE MISCELLANEOUS EVENTS OF THE DAY.
Mid. to 8 a.m.
Calm to light HE breezes; clear to mostly cloudy. Morning duties performed.
Liberty men returned on time.
J. J. Hutson, 2nd Lieut.
8 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Light HE airs to calm; partly clear to partly cloudy.
9:00 held general muster; published action of reviewing authority, dated 14th instant^ in case of Seaman A.M.Clark, who was tried by Minor Revenue-Cutter Service court for "absence from duty without leave", - sentence as mitigated,"to forfeit 20 days* pay, amounting to |B9.60.
Published potion of reviewing authority on board of investigation, 2nd instant, in case of Wm. Haran, 2nd class boy, who was tried by a General Revenue-Cutter Service court on May 1, 1914, and sentenced to be ordinarily discharged and to forfeit all pay prior to that date, which sentence was carried into effect on 15th instant.
J.R.G.Andersen, quartermaster, upon expiration of full term of 7th enlistment,was retained on board with his consent, pending decision of Department relative to waiving his physical disability.
Reenlisted George Hare as oiler, 1st class, -4th enlistment for clothing credit, one year continuous service.
9:30 granted usual liberty to one watch. 11:50 1st Lieutenant W. H. Shea reported on board in obedience to Department orders of Hovember 21, 1914, (10).
Received 6500 gallons fresh water from Mare Island Davy Yard; expended 1500 gallons to engineer's department.
Made inspection of vessel.
4 p.m. to Mid.
Calm to light HW to Forth airs; partly cloudy to clear.
L.- C. Mueller, 2nd Lieut.
2?3282
U* 'S> KEVENttE-Cumf? SERV/CC*
SM FSMC/SCO, CAL.
Rbobiv eo
DEC ?0 1914
OFFICE OF C0MHWNDI.-V6 OFFICES, DIVISION, PACIFIC ?OAST,
Note.?Do not writ? below this line. If additional space is required use an extra sheet of paper (standard size), and head it with day an
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on February 27, 2017, 04:51:43 pm
This cruise is for the birds ;)

F. Seymour Hersey came on board with permission to make northern cruise on this vessel, - authority of Department letter of April 6, 1914.
https://books.google.com/books?id=vyiHo0ccrfkC&pg=PP1&lpg=PP1&dq=F.+Seymour+Hersey+smithsonian
https://archive.org/details/biostor-122317

E. Swift Train came on board with permission to make northern cruise, by authority of Division Commander's letter of April 29, 1914. (Dept telegram Apr 29)
Quote from: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/50514805/
E. Swift Train of Santa Cruz, has resigned his position as secretary-treasurer producing manager of the Sunset Motion Picture Co., having been appointed by the Treasury De-patrment of the United States government, manager of the Arctic Expedition undertaken by the government to obtain moving pictures of Alaska and the Arctic regions. The expedition will leave Seattle in the Revenue Cutter Hear on Sunday, May 10, and is one of the most completely and expensively equipped enterprises yet projected. Many months will be necessary in the pack ice and the return trip will not be made possibly until December.

Lord William Percy
https://books.google.com/books?id=uw_ZvzWHueEC&pg=PA134&lpg=PA134&dq=lord+william+percy+1914+steller
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1474-919X.1963.tb01595.x/pdf
https://books.google.com/books?id=L6BWC_huJkkC&pg=RA5-PA89&lpg=RA5-PA89&dq=lord+william+percy+1914+steller
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on February 27, 2017, 09:16:02 pm
I seem to recall finding a useful bird name in the Hersey Book :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Craig on February 27, 2017, 10:40:34 pm
Here's an OCR conversion of image 448 using commercial software (trial version, it's $120  :o ):

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0448.JPG

Doesn't look too bad.

The original is pretty clear and there don't appear to be many typos. I'd like to see how it does with one like this from the Yorktown
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol04of04/vol04of04_047_1.jpg

Was that $120 per page?
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on February 28, 2017, 12:26:42 am
The original is pretty clear and there don't appear to be many typos. I'd like to see how it does with one like this from the Yorktown
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol04of04/vol04of04_047_1.jpg

I tried something similar, it would chew on it for a couple of hours and then fail miserably.  ;)

Quote
Was that $120 per page?

More than I want to spend on it in any case. :o ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Danny252 on February 28, 2017, 09:32:32 am
One issue I've encountered with checking OCR-ed documents is that once a few errors started creeping in, it took me almost as long to check them as it would to transcribe them initially! (Results probably vary with typing speed...) It takes quite a lot of time and concentration to comb through looking for small changes like an "N" becoming a "H", or an "a" becoming an "o" (or, with numbers, perhaps a "7" becoming a "1"!). Of course, the advantage you can get a large amount of text digitised with reasonable leigibility quite quickly.

If you're interested in the OCR-then-correct route, might I suggest looking at the California Digital Newspaper Collection? They've OCR-ed a huge collection of historical newspapers, and the text is then open to be edited and corrected: https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on February 28, 2017, 12:53:25 pm
If you're interested in the OCR-then-correct route, might I suggest looking at the California Digital Newspaper Collection? They've OCR-ed a huge collection of historical newspapers, and the text is then open to be edited and corrected: https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc

I believe the science team is looking into an OW version of this approach for future use. I was mostly just curious to see how it might work with the current batch of materials. I personally hate typing.  ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Craig on February 28, 2017, 01:23:08 pm
Are they looking into neural network techniques? We have a huge database to train it on.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on February 28, 2017, 01:33:29 pm
Well, there was this (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4637.msg137839#msg137839) recently.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Craig on February 28, 2017, 02:10:41 pm
"8 data pages loaded from 7 source sets" doesn't sound like deep learning to me.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on February 28, 2017, 10:57:24 pm
That is just the start... ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 02, 2017, 12:50:47 am
A new version of the Spreadsheet is available here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B79AVnuaPynAU3p3T0pmSS1CZ1k

The name is a bit different: Bear_1914_v1p300_Double.ods

This release features:

> Enhancements to the EventInputWizard
> An in-cell drop-down menu for the primary position Location Type
> A pop-up hint for the date cell
> Changed the Location and Date entry indicators to show an 'X' when those cells are empty
> Added a new collection of help macros to the Extensions module

Thanks to Randi, Danny252, mapurves and Craig for hints, suggestions and submissions.

The new helper macros aren't linked to hot-keys, that's an exercise for the user.  ;)

Don't forget to enter your local info in the Setup sheet (a way to automate/facilitate this is on my to-do list).
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: mapurves on March 02, 2017, 02:30:31 am
I just keep my current spreadsheet open, and copy the red setup data from it into Bob's new version. As they say in the old country, "and Bob's your uncle!"  ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 02, 2017, 02:34:58 am
 ;D

Watch for a bug-fix release in the next day or two. A feature I added isn't behaving properly.  :(
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 02, 2017, 04:23:24 am
So far, very good ;D



AND:
With this system it is really easy to check your weather entries!
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on March 02, 2017, 11:20:19 pm
Boy it really is easy to do that. Hated OW5 due to format of viewing the work...very unhelpful it was :(  Bob's system is bliss :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Craig on March 02, 2017, 11:56:43 pm
With this system it is really easy to check your weather entries!

I typed 851 in a temperature cell instead of 85 and it flatlined the variable in the graph because the max of the Y axis was so far out of range. That sure catches your eye  8)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 03, 2017, 12:46:02 am
Spreadsheet bug-fix release (v1p302):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B79AVnuaPynAU3p3T0pmSS1CZ1k
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 03, 2017, 11:51:15 pm
May 23 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0175.JPG) is a duplicate page due to an insert.

I simply added a Comment and didn't transcribe anything on that page.
Quote
Duplicate page due to insert.
Not transcribed.
I'm not sure if that is useful or not.

In the tracking sheet I entered dup. Feel free to change that.

I will transcribe https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0176.JPG normally.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 12, 2017, 05:21:29 pm
A new version (v1p500) of the spreadsheet is here:   https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B79AVnuaPynAU3p3T0pmSS1CZ1k

This one has some significant changes:

> Simplified the image download options. There's only one method linked to the spreadsheet now: Browser Download, on a new button. Pressing this button sends the 'download=true' version of the image URL to your default browser. After the download is complete you just press the Open Local File button to load it. The pop-up 'Press OK after download' is gone, as is the selector spinner on the Setup tab. Those who are doing their own downloads just use the Open Local File button.

> Added a button for viewing image in browser. Press the new Open In Browser button to open the current-number log page in your default browser.

The following changes are per science team feedback -

> Output file anonymization. Forum usernames are no longer part of the output filenames and are not in the output data record. I've implemented a Universally Unique Identifier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier) (UUID), Version 4, to provide an anonymous tag to include with each data set instead. The first eight characters of this string are used in the filename.

> Strict XML compliance. The XML standard requires five characters to be 'escaped' with special formatting: ampersand, less-than, greater-than, double quotes and apostrophe. You will see &, <, >, " and ' in the output instead.

> Changed date format. The preferred format is ISO 8601 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601) compliant YYYY/MM/DD. The pop-up help for the date entry cell now has this guidance. There will be further expansion of how the date is transcribed, so this an interim fix.

Regarding expanded transcribing, there are some fairly significant changes under consideration for how dates and locations are handled relative to the the old TWYS constraints. So, standby for more on that as we figure out how to accommodate it.


I've advanced the 'hold-short line' in the tracker a few days, so please give this new version a workout if you have some time.

Thanks!

- Bob
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on March 12, 2017, 07:43:46 pm
Oh dear - I'm struggling again now. Followed instructions above. But the browser should be Chrome which I used last time. Getting the image causes Firefox to open up. Help :(
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 12, 2017, 07:46:03 pm
Oh dear - I'm struggling again now. Followed instructions above. But the browser should be Chrome which I used last time. Getting the image causes Firefox to open up. Help :(

Firefox is your system's default browser. A Google search for 'setting default browser' will return some helpful links if you want to change that to Chrome.

 ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on March 12, 2017, 07:57:20 pm
 :D :D :D On Win7 but found it in a similar place to W10 (my laptop is W10 but won't currently speak to the internet at all!)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 12, 2017, 08:01:23 pm
:D :D :D On Win7 but found it in a similar place to W10 (my laptop is W10 but won't currently speak to the internet at all!)

Sorry for the bit of whiplash on this one, but it's actually more standard for system behavior (using the default browser) and eliminates a bunch of other headaches.  :-[
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on March 12, 2017, 09:16:05 pm
yep - got that Bob - and happy with that too :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 14, 2017, 05:29:06 pm
> Simplified the image download options. There's only one method linked to the spreadsheet now: Browser Download, on a new button. Pressing this button sends the 'download=true' version of the image URL to your default browser. After the download is complete you just press the Open Local File button to load it. The pop-up 'Press OK after download' is gone, as is the selector spinner on the Setup tab. Those who are doing their own downloads just use the Open Local File button.
Would it be possible to put the on-line option back? :'(
That worked very well for me.


> Added a button for viewing image in browser. Press the new Open In Browser button to open the current-number log page in your default browser.
LIKE!

Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 14, 2017, 08:16:28 pm
Would it be possible to put the on-line option back? :'(
That worked very well for me.

You mean the direct NARA link? You must be the only one that was working for.  ???
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 14, 2017, 08:52:10 pm
 ;D
Yup, the direct NARA link. I think that there was one time it failed on the first try.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 14, 2017, 09:28:21 pm
Here's a hack to get NARA direct, for now:

> Go to the Setup tab and type the number '1' into cell M1.

> Edit the formula in cell C10 so that 'M1' is the first item in the CHOOSE input list:

=CONCATENATE(CHOOSE(M1, NARAStubCell, ImageDirStubCell, AltURLStub, ImageDirStubCell, ImageDirStubCell, ImageDirStubCell),TEXT(PageCell,"000#"),".JPG")

> Save the spreadsheet.

> Just press the 'Open Local File' button to get the images.

 ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 14, 2017, 10:13:15 pm
Thanks!
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 20, 2017, 06:17:13 pm
4 June - In the ice off Cape Nome...
Quote from: https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0192.JPG
Mid to 4AM
passed piece of wreckage, the side of a deck-house

4AM to 8AM
Crew holystoning decks
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on March 20, 2017, 08:59:10 pm
4 June - In the ice off Cape Nome...
Quote from: https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0192.JPG
Mid to 4AM
passed piece of wreckage, the side of a deck-house

4AM to 8AM
Crew holystoning decks

They see a chunk of a boat floating past so they set off to holystone the decks?  :o  No wonder that ship had such a reputation :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 20, 2017, 11:12:18 pm
After Randi is done with 192,193 & 194 I'll post a note to the science team that we're ready for a stage check.  :P
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 20, 2017, 11:38:45 pm
Late tomorrow ;)

192 done
193 done
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 21, 2017, 06:28:44 pm
DONE!
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on March 21, 2017, 11:23:50 pm
DONE!

 8)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on March 22, 2017, 11:10:57 pm
What's next for Bear - or are we now waiting upon Philip's words, please?  :)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 22, 2017, 11:14:46 pm
Waiting
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Kevin on March 22, 2017, 11:39:14 pm
This is all so very cool. "Wicked" cool as you might hear in some New England states. 
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 22, 2017, 11:52:49 pm
 ;D

"She'll lick creation --- she will"
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: mapurves on March 23, 2017, 12:37:36 am
This is all so very cool. "Wicked" cool as you might hear in some New England states.

Way back when, long before you were born, those of us on the west coast used to say "Mint." We would add fractions to that, so "Wicked Cool" might be "Mint and three quarters". Allowed fractions were 1/4,1/3,1/2,2/3,3/4 although, in this case, we could use the only exception to the rule of fractions and exclaim with gusto "Double Mint!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Kevin on March 23, 2017, 12:47:17 am
This is all so very cool. "Wicked" cool as you might hear in some New England states.

Way back when, long before you were born, those of us on the west coast used to say "Mint." We would add fractions to that, so "Wicked Cool" might be "Mint and three quarters". Allowed fractions were 1/4,1/3,1/2,2/3,3/4 although, in this case, we could use the only exception to the rule of fractions and exclaim with gusto "Double Mint!  ;D ;D ;D

Not 'Lick creation'?  :)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on March 23, 2017, 01:02:09 am
Not 'Lick creation'?  :)

I think that was way back when, long before Michael was born ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Danny252 on March 24, 2017, 10:11:29 am
Way back when, long before you were born, those of us on the west coast used to say "Mint."

Apparently the term migrated very slowly around the world, as it was quite popular for a while about 12 years ago when I was in school! The fractions were gone, but "double mint" was heard on occasion.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on May 21, 2017, 05:58:59 pm
Based on image count, we're 49% through this log set.

Craig is at 62%...  ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Craig on May 21, 2017, 06:08:56 pm
I will be off duty for most of next week. You can catch up  ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 22, 2017, 11:51:47 pm
A little light relief from the technical side of this ship's transcription:

Bear 23rd July 1914, 10:00 a.m.
At Nome, Alaska 'steamer "Elihu Thompson" stood in and anchored.

Thought to check the spelling of the first name and discovered that Elihu Thomson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elihu_Thomson) (March 29, 1853 ? March 13, 1937) was an English-born American engineer and inventor who was instrumental in the founding of major electrical companies in the United States, the United Kingdom and France.

(http://i.imgur.com/rP1f48N.png)

Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on May 22, 2017, 11:59:58 pm
 8)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 23, 2017, 12:18:36 am
Bear 23rd July 1914, 4-8 p.m. (Get's cooler  8) 8) )
Oh my - mention of the Karluk - which sounds miserably close to the fate of the Jeannette
Received on board freight for Pt. Hope Mission and supplies and clothing for crew of Karluk, Captain Bartlett.
Received from G.P.Gaggin, Nome, 12 mattresses to be purchased and used, should destitute Karluk crew be found.
And she was, in part rescued, by the Bear. It's an awesome story. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_voyage_of_the_Karluk)

"The revenue cutter Bear arrived in St Michael, Alaska, midway through June. Her master, Captain Cochran, agreed to go to
Wrangel Island as soon as he got permission from the United States government.
It would be impossible, in any event, to attempt the rescue before mid-July; ice conditions in the Arctic that year were reported as severe."

(http://i.imgur.com/8i6KZnF.png)

I guess this is the fun of working on such an important ship as The Bear  8) :D 8)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on May 23, 2017, 12:56:48 am
Fascinating story!  :o
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 23, 2017, 10:18:29 pm
Saturday 26 July 1914.
7.36 stopped off North Head - sent an officer ashore to ascertain whereabouts of Lord Percy - learned that he left 3 days ago in umiak for East Cape.

I wonder who Lord Percy is - only one I know was about late 18th to mid 19th century (Prudhoe Bay was named after him). Intriguing  entry.

I wonder if the Bear was sent a list of hopeful expeditions so that they could assess the liabilities they faced in finding the intrepid expedition ers as things went wrong. Oh dear - that didn't sound very generous of me but...  ::)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on May 24, 2017, 12:36:12 am
I suspect that many a member of the Coast Guard today would agree - albeit anonymously ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: mapurves on May 24, 2017, 01:22:02 am
Same ship, different year.

Bear 17 August 1919.

Quote
Commanding Officer investigated into charges of Mrs. Bert Merrill against her husband; incompatibility and cruelty; both residents of Tigara, the latter being colored and the former a native eskimo. Results: Merrill claimed his wife did not attend to household duties and found fault with manner in which their four children were cared for. Mrs. Merrill stated that in a fit of anger Merrill struck her with a piece of wood and pricked her in the leg with a knife to hurry her up in some housework, he wished her to do. Merrill acknowledged having a quick temper and manifested such a genuine desire to reform that C.O. in compliance with wishes of Mrs. Merrill let Merrill off with a warning.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: jil on May 24, 2017, 07:29:55 pm
Saturday 26 July 1914.
7.36 stopped off North Head - sent an officer ashore to ascertain whereabouts of Lord Percy - learned that he left 3 days ago in umiak for East Cape.

I wonder who Lord Percy is - only one I know was about late 18th to mid 19th century (Prudhoe Bay was named after him). Intriguing  entry.

I wonder if the Bear was sent a list of hopeful expeditions so that they could assess the liabilities they faced in finding the intrepid expedition ers as things went wrong. Oh dear - that didn't sound very generous of me but...  ::)

Ermmm ....  ;) [From earlier ice checking of the log]
July 27th (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0252.JPG)
Quote
Sent officer ashore to inquire after Lord Percy. Found Lord Percy and at 3:45 boat returned with Wm. Wheeler and John Tokluk?, who were Lord Percy's assistants.
4.15 Lord William Percy came on board for passage, bringing outfit and baggage.
I found an obituary (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1474-919X.1963.tb01595.x/pdf) for Lord William Percy which says he was an ornithologist (as well as being the 2nd son of the 7th Duke of Northumberland) and also a paper on Arctic Terns (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00063655709475891) which mentions some arctic terns collected by him in Siberia in August 1914.

That's fascinating :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 24, 2017, 09:53:25 pm
 ;D ;D ;D Thanks jil - clearly it was fascinating but not quite memorable enough for my limited (or perhaps over-stuffed) memory banks  these days

Great to re-know Lord Percy - ornithologist  :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on May 25, 2017, 12:53:41 am
He is mentioned here (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4645.msg139740#msg139740) too ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 25, 2017, 11:23:32 pm
He is mentioned here (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4645.msg139740#msg139740) too ;D
;D ;D ;D

And duly he is sought out and found and retrieved by The Bear (hopefully he wanted to be found  ;))

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0252.JPG
27th July 1914
Phew - mystery solved at East Cape, Siberia:
"Sent Officer ashore to inquire after Lord Percy. Found Lord Percy and at 3:45 boat returned with Wm. Wheeler and John Topeluk, who were Lord Percy's assistants.
4.15 Lord William Percy came on board for passage bringing outfit and baggage"
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on May 26, 2017, 04:42:04 pm
Quote from: https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0228.JPG

July 4, 1914

...
Crew washed down decks, performed morning
duties and made preparations for dressing ship. 8.00
full dressed ship.
...
At noon fired a salute of 21
guns. Suspended unnecessary work and observed day as a holiday, Granted
special liberty to certain members of crew, all of whom returned on time at 4:00.
...
8.00 undressed ship
...
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on May 26, 2017, 10:33:31 pm
Some wonderful stuff on Bear's 1914 voyage in:
Annual Report
United States Coast Guard
U.S. Government Printing Office, 1915
(https://books.google.com/books?id=uiPVAAAAMAAJ&q=hill#v=snippet&q=hill&f=false)!
(Helpful for names too! ;))


(http://i.imgur.com/bp25dee.png) (https://books.google.com/books?id=uiPVAAAAMAAJ&q=hill#v=snippet&q=hill&f=false)

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0208.JPG

Mr. Swift Train (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4645.msg139740#msg139740)

Ellis Reed-Hill (https://www.uscg.mil/history/people/Flags/Reed-HillEBio.pdf)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 27, 2017, 12:11:01 am
My goodness - we rub shoulders with some very famous people, who have done great things in their fields, don't we? :)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on May 28, 2017, 10:45:57 pm
Reminder: Initiate (right-click) the Location Wizard inside one of the events boundaries, not in the Position cell in Column O.  ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 29, 2017, 12:34:46 pm
That might be me that's doing that Bob  :(  Apologies!!  :)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on May 29, 2017, 03:22:53 pm
No worries, I only saw one instance in the latest batch.  :P
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 29, 2017, 06:46:20 pm
Ummmm - right....looking at the noon position below how do I enter it because I've used those purple squares a lot (a real lot)?
Perhaps it explains a question I was about to ask, i.e. I've entered things into those purple boxes, then into the location wizard. The wizard has over-written what I put in the purple squares.  :'(

(http://i.imgur.com/3soMDsE.png)

Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on May 29, 2017, 06:58:47 pm
Sneak preview of the soon-to-be-released Help guide ;)
If this doesn't answer your questions, then the Help guide needs to be fixed!!!





Location

In the logs we are currently using, the noon, 8am and 8pm locations can usually be found in the section below the weather data on the left hand page.
Other locations may be given in the events section on the right hand page.



Position of Record

If the noon location or other location being used is a latitude and longitude, this can be entered using the Location Wizard (Obs).
Right click to select a cell within the green box near the position you are transcribing.
A black-bordered box appears on the page together with a menu, from which you should select Location Wizard (Obs).

(http://i.imgur.com/0bCqG20.png)

Enter the latitude and longitude values including the hemisphere (N/S, E/W), the time and whether the reading is DR, Observed or Not Specified.
The lat/long will be automatically converted to the decimal form.

(http://i.imgur.com/wornMd0.png)

Click Save.
The Location X in A15 will change to solid green and the lat/long data will appear in the magenta boxes on the right hand page (Loc Tag, Loc Data, Loc Time).

(http://i.imgur.com/3O4XEv8.png)

The black-bordered box will preserve the original lat/long data:
<time>Noon</time><type>Location</type><subtype>Obs</subtype><text>40 03 00 N 124 21 00 W</text>

If the noon location or other location being used is a place (with or without bearings), there are two ways to enter it.
The simplest is to follow the existing TWYS policy.
Left click in the magenta Loc Tag box, then on the attached arrow button to the right, and then select Place from the list.
Next, left click in the magenta Loc Data box and type in the place name and any bearings as they appear in the log.
Finally, left click in the magenta Loc Time box and type in the time of the observation.

(http://i.imgur.com/z9mAhph.png)

If you feel more ambitious, you can look up the lat/long of the place (Geographical Help (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=24.0) will help).
If the location information includes bearings, you may find OW Bearing in OW Tools - by Mapurves & Propriome (http://owtools.scienceontheweb.net/owtools/bearing.php) useful.
Since the location is based on the observation of a place, Obs should be selected from the list for the magenta Loc Tag box.
Enter the lat/long you have determined in the magenta Loc Data box, and enter the time of the observation in the magenta Loc Time box.

(http://i.imgur.com/LuNv7na.png)

As a safety precaution, please enter the place text as well.
Right click to select a cell within the green box near the position you are transcribing.
A black-bordered box appears on the page together with a menu, from which you should select Event Input Wizard.
The time can be selected from the Time drop-down menu or entered manually.
Select Location from the Type drop-down menu, and select Place from the Subtype drop-down menu.
Enter the text from the log into the Event Text box and click Done. The black-bordered box will preserve the log data:
<time>Noon</time><type>Location</type><subtype>Place</subtype><text>Nome, Alaska</text>

Note: Do not use the Location Wizard (Obs) for positions other than the Position of Record. A new position will overwrite an existing position.

Other Positions

You can enter as many other positions as you want.
Right click near the position making sure that you are within one of the green Event Boxes.
Select the Event Input Wizard from the menu that appears.
The time can be selected from the Time drop-down menu or entered manually.
Select Location from the Type drop-down menu, and select the appropriate entry from the Subtype drop-down menu.
Enter the text from the log into the Event Text box and click Done. The black-bordered box will show what you entered.
If the position is a degree-minute-second latitude and longitude, you can enter it as degree-minute-second or convert it to decimal.
If the position is a place name or a place name with bearings, you can add a second entry showing the position as a decimal latitude and longitude.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 29, 2017, 07:51:02 pm
If the noon location or other location being used is a place (with or without bearings), there are two ways to enter it.
The simplest is to follow the existing TWYS policy.
Left click in the magenta Loc Tag box, then on the attached arrow button to the right, and then select Place from the list.
Next, left click in the magenta Loc Data box and type in the place name and any bearings as they appear in the log.
Finally, left click in the magenta Loc Time box and type in the time of the observation.

(http://i.imgur.com/z9mAhph.png)


That's what I've been doing. I wonder what I did that was different that Bob noticed - Bob, any ideas please?

(As usual - Joan tests any system to destruction and beyond  ::) :-[ :-\ :P :-X :( )
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on May 29, 2017, 08:17:34 pm
Ummmm - right....looking at the noon position below how do I enter it because I've used those purple squares a lot (a real lot)?
Perhaps it explains a question I was about to ask, i.e. I've entered things into those purple boxes, then into the location wizard. The wizard has over-written what I put in the purple squares.  :'(

Yes, the 600 version (Bear 1914) writes the decimal values from the Location Wizard into the magenta cells, it was actually intended to just be used for the Noon observation. The next version (aka 700 series) doesn't overwrite.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on May 29, 2017, 09:48:27 pm
Oh right - thanks Bob  :D  So it looks like I'm doing the right thing then :)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 04, 2017, 08:34:54 pm
Bad weather is slowing the Bear right up as it gets caught in a very deep pressure trough  :o
26th August 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0289.JPG) 

(http://i.imgur.com/j4LzZmp.png)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on June 04, 2017, 08:50:51 pm
Looks unpleasant.  :(
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 04, 2017, 08:58:50 pm
Bear 27th August 1914. (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0290.JPG)

(http://i.imgur.com/JcRU6dp.png)

I've made a transcriber's comment:

<time>4AM to 8AM</time><type>Transcriber Comment</type><subtype></subtype><text>Inference that there was heavy ice in the vicinity of the Bear since 24th August 1914, although not specifically referred to in the log entries of the 26th August 1914</text>
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on June 04, 2017, 09:19:47 pm
There are probably as many ways to handle that as there are transcribers ;)

I would be inclined to transcribe the whole text from "Continued bad weather" to "from making landing" with a type of Sea Ice to be sure Philip and Kevin catch it :-\

Should Transcriber Comment have a subtype of Sea Ice? :-\ :-\
(Of course, you can always type that in as the subtype :-\ :-\ :-\)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 04, 2017, 11:31:34 pm
Thanks Randi  :D

I did also enter it as an ice comment:
<event><time>4AM to 8AM</time><type>Sea Ice</type><subtype></subtype><text>Continued bad weather with fog and snow since arrival of vessel off Wrangel Island, 24th instant, and heavy ice in vicinity of Wrangel and Herald Islands prevented Bear from making landing;</text></event>

Do you think it was worth bothering with the additional transcriber's comment please?  :)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 04, 2017, 11:44:18 pm
Bear 14th September 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0304.JPG)

Another expedition problem to solve :(

(http://i.imgur.com/uJghoBm.png)

Purchased from C.P. Goggin, Nome Alaska, 3 mattresses felt and 2 mattresses straw, for use survivors Canadian Arctic Expedition

Which led me to find an article about the Canadian Arctic Expedition which ran from 1913 to 1918 (http://www.northernstrategy.gc.ca/sov/cae-eng.asp) and the sinking of its principle ship The Karluk which led to the Bear preparing to find survivors:

(http://i.imgur.com/rsR0W1P.png)

(p.s. We've heard mention of the Karluk (an ex-whaler) in lists of whaling ships in port recorded by other whalers whose logs we've transcribed)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on June 05, 2017, 01:42:01 am
Do you think it was worth bothering with the additional transcriber's comment please?  :)

I would say that your transcriber's comment was helpful but optional.
I would probably do it ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 05, 2017, 07:40:54 pm
Thanks Randi  :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 05, 2017, 08:29:08 pm
Bear, Sept 5th 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0305.JPG) (perhaps it should be renamed the 'Rescue'?  ;))

(http://i.imgur.com/qUMgBn8.png)

2.10 received distress call by wireless "S.O.S." "R.N.B." followed by several Russian words. Unable to get to latitude or longitude of the "R.N.B." (Russian Volunteer Fleet S.S. "Toula").

All must have been well because the Ship's List/Russian Navy (http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/russianv.shtml) shows:
Russian volunteer fleet SS Toula: built as 'Aleut' for Russian East Asiatic SS Co., Libau 1910 transferred to East Asiatic Co., Copenhagen renamed 'St. Lucia', 1910 returned to Russian East Asiatic SS Co., St. Petersburg renamed 'Aleut', 1912 sold to RVF renamed 'Toula', 1923 sold to Wallem & Co., Bergen renamed 'Solviken', 1940 transferred to Panama registry renamed 'Capella', 1941 captured by Japan renamed 'Minami Maru', 1944 torpedoed and sunk by USS Flying Fish.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 06, 2017, 11:17:12 pm
Reserved (Karluk rescue)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 06, 2017, 11:17:26 pm
Bear, 12th September 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0312.JPG)
(http://i.imgur.com/xuDdqwN.png?1)

In accordance with Department telegram of the 4th instant, fired a national salute at noon in commemoration of the one hundreth anniversary of the writing of the "Star Spangled Banner".
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 07, 2017, 09:16:44 pm
Bear 1914 September 14th (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0314.JPG) and continuing on the 15th and onwards with a set of register papers having been sent to the Commanding Officer.

Hmmm - can't find anything else out about the following comment, but I did find some fine pictures that relate to the Station and Bear.

(http://i.imgur.com/Lm8cdoe.png?1)

'Commanding Officer left vessel to hold investigation in the case of the Keeper of Nome Life Saving Station.'

(http://i.imgur.com/XoeGurR.png?1)

Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on June 08, 2017, 12:23:03 am
...but I did find some fine pictures that relate to the Station and Bear.

That surf looks cold!
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on June 08, 2017, 02:55:24 am
More on the Karluk
The last voyage of the Karluk : flagship of Vilhjalmar Stefansson's Canadian Arctic Expedition of 1913-16 (https://archive.org/stream/lastvoyageofkarl00bartuoft#page/n5/mode/2up)

Quite a few mentions of the Bear ;)



Russian icebreakers mentioned in the log are probably the Taymyr (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taymyr_(1909_icebreaker)) and the Vaygach (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaygach_(1909_icebreaker)) although the spelling in the logs has to be taken with a grain of salt.



and here is another source: United States Coast Guard - Annual Report (June 30, 1915) (https://books.google.com/books?id=uiPVAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=Emmatown+russia)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 08, 2017, 08:08:02 pm
Yep - you wouldn't find me jogging into that surf, Bob.  Can't imagine what it was like going out saving lives in seas that cold   :o



Thanks for the references for the Canadian expedition Randi :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 11, 2017, 12:30:30 am
Bear 20th September 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0320.JPG)

Another rescue required - this time for our old friend "Corwin":

9:10[AM] received radio message from keeper of Nome Life Saving Station that the "Corwin" was aground near Cape Douglas, Alaska. Sent answer that "Bear" would go to the "Corwin" assistance as soon as mail was landed at St. Michael.

(http://i.imgur.com/w7RQQfX.png?1)


Merid to 4 PM: But Corwin apparently managed to extricate herself :)

"Received message from the S.S. "Cordova" that the S.S. "Corwin" had sent to Nome for lighters and expected to float herself and that she needed no assistance."

But:
"5.08 AM Received message from Keeper Nome Life Saving Station that he was proceeding to assistance Corwin with life saving crew and that Bears assistance was needed."

And the day went further downhill later on (note: the Semichi Islands are at the western end of the Aleutian chain):
"9:50 PM heard Unalga Is. Wireless Station sending that U.S.R.C. "Tahoma" was on the rocks in 51 degrees 57 minutes North. Lat., 175 degrees 02 minutes East Long. and had been sending "S.O.S" [...] 10:50 received radiogram from Senior Captain W.E. Reynolds saying "Tahoma" was probably on the rocks of Semichi Islands, that there no cutters near there and to proceed to her assistance. Sent radiogram to Senior Captain W.E. Reynolds stating that "Bear" was on her way to assist the S.S. "Corwin", that it was 960 miles to the "Tahoma" and requested further instructions. Watch ends on course West, full speed, under steam and all fore and aft sails except the flying jib and spanker."
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 11, 2017, 11:05:48 pm
On the 22nd September (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0322.JPG) finally:

Sighted S/S Corwin aground on shoal about 7.5 miles South of Pt. Spencer.

And to cut along story short all was well. Bear sorted out the Corwin anchors to allow her to pull herself off the shoal. The freight on Corwin and to be man handled out because the power to the hoists was broken.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 12, 2017, 09:24:12 pm
And finally finally on the 25th September 1914 '4:00 Steamer "Corwin" stood in and anchored'. Hurrah! :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on June 13, 2017, 12:50:49 am
Meanwhile, back on 31 August (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0294.JPG)...

4AM to 8AM
5.45 coal barge came alongside - coal from John Sesnon + Co  ~
Commenced coaling at 6.00, unable to obtain draft of vessel
on account of rough sea.  Using oil bags on lee bow,
barge being unloaded with difficulty, account of sea.




Six Thousand Ton Pile of Coal of the John J. Sesnon Co. (http://www.nomenugget.net/archives/2011/8.4.11%20nn.pdf) (page 2)
Also mentioned here (http://archiveswest.orbiscascade.org/ark:/80444/xv71147)
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 13, 2017, 07:02:26 pm
 :o :o :o That's half a Welsh hillside's worth!  That would have filled our old coal bunker for a loooong time!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on June 14, 2017, 03:05:46 am
As you may have already noticed, for coal they use the long ton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_ton) which equals 2,240 pounds.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 14, 2017, 10:41:44 am
When you're transcribing and they record coaling the ship, even if you've got some mechanical assistance, that's got to be very hard work.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: mapurves on June 14, 2017, 03:30:46 pm
And very dirty!!! Several times I have seen mention of sacks of coal.

When I was on my meteorologist's course back in 1971, I rented a suite in Bill and Albert's house. Bill was in his fifties, and Albert was his father, and close to 90. Albert used to deliver sacks of coal with a horse and wagon around Toronto in the twenties and thirties. He was very bent over from years of carrying all those sacks of coal.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 14, 2017, 09:08:23 pm
I remember my mum always handed a few bob to the coal men - they earnt very little, worked so hard, and breathed that gritty dust in all day long. As nana used to say - not many of them make old bones. So Bert did quite well to get to 90  but I bet his back was a misery to live with, bless him.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: mapurves on June 15, 2017, 01:51:04 am
I remember my mum always handed a few bob to the coal men - they earnt very little, worked so hard, and breathed that gritty dust in all day long. As nana used to say - not many of them make old bones. So Bert did quite well to get to 90  but I bet his back was a misery to live with, bless him.

He was a blessing, as was his son who had been a house painter. Bill, the son, had been disabled by a fall. When I went to look at their suite, Bill told asked me what I did. I told him that I was learning to be a weather forecaster. He told me that his contribution to Canada was to make my stay so productive that I would be the best forecaster in the country. "Right now there aren't any good ones," he said. He told me if I didn't study, or if I were rowdy in any way that Albert would toss me out on my ear.  ;D ;D ;D

Albert came out, and he was so bent over that in order to talk to me he had to fall backwards against the wall so his back would be vertical and he could look me in the eye. "Ya, I'll toss ya out!"  he said.

Naturally, with landlords like that, I just had to stay there.  ;)

Every day after my classes, Bill gave me a beer and made me recite the events of the day to him and Albert. And, every Saturday morning I had to sit with the two of them and watch the World Wrestling Federation and have two beers.
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on June 15, 2017, 01:57:51 am
Good-hearted people!
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on June 15, 2017, 05:30:02 pm
Good-hearted people!

I'll second that Randi  :D
Title: Re: Bear (1914) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on August 12, 2017, 09:18:45 pm
 Bear October 3rd 1914, at Unalaska. (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0341.JPG)
The ship "Tahoma" foundered on a reef in water marked as very deep. It took about 4 days to rescue the crew and passengers and so...

'following members of crew and survivors Tahoma reported on board from U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey Ship "Patterson" by direction Comd. Officer Bering Sea Fleet: - A Lipke, Electrician, 1st Cl., L. Hansen, Q. Mr., J. Krohn, coxswain, C. Stromberg, oiler, 2nd class, C. Carter, coal heaver, T. Flackety, fireman, E. Conn, fireman, E. Cann, fireman, O. Kydland, fireman, W. Pollock, seaman, J. Stokes, bugler, R. Mattson, seaman, L. Ostman, seaman, L. Johansen, seaman, C. Anderson, o.seaman, A.C. Cameron, ord.sea., H. Manguard, ord, sea., P. Cagswell, ord.sea., W. Grant, 2nd cl. buy, D. May, 1st cl. boy, F. Fukahana, cabin steward, and S. Victor, seaman, all of whom are to receive rations from general mess commencing 4th instant. Issued survivors necessary clothing and gave medical attention to those in need of same.'

And at this time they are still caring for one of the survivors of the loss of the Karluk: E. Chafe of Canadian Arctic Expedition.



 Bear October 5th 1914, at Unalaska. (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0343.JPG)

I'm trying to picture how the crew of the ex-Tahoma will use some of these since they no longer have things like a deck...  :-\

"Furnished crew of the "Tahoma" with 112lbs of soap, 10 galvanized iron buckets, 30 rolls of toilet paper, 5 yds #2canvas, 5 yds #5 canvas, 2 hand scrubbers, 1 deck scrubber, and 2 handles, 2 lamp burners and 3 lantern globes, 3 baking pans and two 5 gallon copper coffee pots."