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Old Weather: Arctic => Interface Development => Topic started by: Bob on February 19, 2017, 08:06:54 pm

Title: Project Updates
Post by: Bob on February 19, 2017, 08:06:54 pm
Project Update

The next step for Old Weather transcribing is almost ready for wide release. We're still tweaking some things and will be doing a full test run on one of the Bear log sets soon to work the bugs out of the process. In the meantime, here is an introduction to what we have. Let's call it OW:Next for now.

What It Is

OW:Next is a system for connecting transcribers with the logs, providing a software tool for transcribing the pages, and a means for transferring the data and tracking the work. The transcribing tool is a LibreOffice Calc spreadsheet, specially formatted for each log set, with automated features for working with the log page images. OW:Next keeps the existing forum as the central place for interacting with the project. Creating it, maintaining it and operating it are in the hands of the participants.

What It Is Not

OW:Next is not a one-stop web interface like previous iterations of the Old Weather project. It does not (yet) fully automate all the steps in the transcribing process. While we've tried to make this new system as accessible as possible, it might not be everyone's cup of tea at this point.

Getting Involved

If you're ready to roll up your sleeves a bit, install some software (free), and get down to more of a nuts-and-bolts type of transcribing experience, then let us know. You can post here on the forum or send us (the Moderators) a PM. Knowing the interest level will help us plan the wider roll-out.

Getting Started

We have a series of How-To presentations:

Installation and Setup (https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1p29DrIPa5s1TZGXZwtcHOpFZ0AhFdHBLmKCgJQ7REmw/pub?start=false)
Using the Spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1F2UpcRtCIzknKtaP7GJod2CviuG6ZokuK0t9qSzNkP8/pub?start=false)
Transcribing Hints, Tips and Tricks (https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1kMYTNU8PcIb_zjC4KeB81IXkLBT9E9WGEf7useXafNY/pub?start=false)
Uploading the Data (https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/11VRcFO4D7Sqsdhoq7nL-HjQNlKJu22tdK4M1xSiuxvs/pub?start=false)

You can have a look at these to get a feel for how things work. We're in the process of putting together a simple centralized site with basic introductory information and links. It is currently hosted here (https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/getting-started), and although the content is a work in progress, it gives you an idea of the project organization.

Stay tuned for more news. As always, you can ask any questions or post comments here in the forum!
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Bob on March 10, 2017, 01:05:26 pm
A quick status update :

We've received detailed feedback from the science team after they've had a chance to work with the beta-test and dry-run data that's been accumulated so far. The general conclusion is that the system should work well, but there are some details that need to be attended to, mostly related to things like events tagging and data format. We'll be getting the recommended changes in place and tested, followed by another round of science team review. After that, we could be ready for a wider roll-out.  ;)

Thanks to everyone that's helped with the testing so far. We'll be in a bit of a hiatus while the updates are made, but we'll post here when we're ready for the next dry run.

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Craig on March 10, 2017, 06:03:54 pm
That's encouraging news, Bob. Thank you for all you have done with this new capture system.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on March 10, 2017, 06:13:02 pm
Indeed!
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: AvastMH on March 10, 2017, 07:22:37 pm
Ready and waiting Bob  :D
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Kevin on March 18, 2017, 12:16:09 am
The Old Weather home page now has a 'Resources' button. I've put our imager manual there, but can put more important links to other things above that too. Can also change the name to 'push this button!'
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: mapurves on March 18, 2017, 01:49:42 am
Nice!
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Bob on December 21, 2017, 02:20:34 am
Now that the current set of OldWeather ships is essentially complete, we're pleased to announce that the next generation of OldWeather is ready to use.
So, head over to the Introduction (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4690.msg143598#msg143598) and read all about it.

You will find that the new system is quite a bit different from the current web-based version.
It has been developed as a set of tools for transcribing the log pages and will require more interaction from users.
So it's very important to review the introductory materials to get familiar with the overall process.
As always, you can Ask Questions Here (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4826.msg148448#msg148448).

Another big difference is that, for the time being, the focus is on ice observations and ship's position details.
You will find more on that in Transcribing: Ice (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4690.msg144397#msg144397).
You're certainly free to transcribe weather and events if that interests you, but the Science Team is asking that ice be the priority.

This system is literally a work in progress (for about a year now), and will always be one.
Many of you have helped with development inputs, beta testing, advice and suggestions.
We very much want to continue this as a user-supported platform that will evolve over time as we gain experience and take on new log sets and objectives.
So, please feel free to contribute your ideas in the forum as you work through the new system.

Also, remember we are all volunteers here, so our resources are somewhat limited, and your patience will be very much appreciated.
With that in mind, we're limiting the number of ships available at first while we weather the first round of public participation.
For now, that's the Burton Island (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=50.0), with the Storis to follow shortly.
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on December 21, 2017, 03:07:01 pm
Currently we are doing the Pacific. After that, it will be the Atlantic.
We have Burton Island (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=50.0), Storis (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=51.0), and Staten Island (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=53.0).
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on January 11, 2018, 04:56:18 pm
It admittedly is a steep learning curve, but the more I use it the better I like it!



Old Weather of the transcribers, by the transcribers, for the transcribers, shall not perish from the earth
 ;)
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Hanibal94 on January 11, 2018, 07:55:52 pm
It admittedly is a steep learning curve, but the more I use it the better I like it!

I agree completely!

Old Weather of the transcribers, by the transcribers, for the transcribers, shall not perish from the earth
 ;)

HUZZAH!
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Bob on January 13, 2018, 07:32:16 pm
Beta Testing Needed

New spreadsheets are here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B79AVnuaPynAcjdoZG1ELWdvT2c



The new features are -

User-settable Location Wizard default startup screen position

The settings are in Cells C48 and C49 of the Setup tab. The horizontal and vertical values specify the default top left corner placement of the wizard window relative to the Calc window, in pixels. Negative values are allowed, and out of range values will just put the wizard window into one of the screen corners. Try it and see.  ;)

Added entries to Location Wizard Time drop list

New: 0800, 1200 and 2000

Fixed decimal minutes bug in Location Wizard

Maximum allowable value was set to 59 for minutes and seconds, it's now 60.

Auto-prompt for Clear Data on image load

When Get Image is called it checks for any non-empty cells in the data, event and date input ranges, and calls Clear Data if any of the ranges are not empty.

Write synoptic position entries to WR Data tab

Location Wizard writes the XML-formatted position strings to the WR Data tab for '8 AM', 'Noon' and '8 PM' times ('0800', '1200' and '2000' also trigger this).



I need someone to independently verify that these things are working in all five files.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 12:16:43 am
Storis:
User-settable Location Wizard default startup screen position OK
Added entries to Location Wizard Time drop list OK
Fixed decimal minutes bug in Location Wizard OK
Auto-prompt for Clear Data on image load OK
Write synoptic position entries to WR Data tab OK



Staten Island 1952-June1955:
User-settable Location Wizard default startup screen position OK
Added entries to Location Wizard Time drop list OK
Fixed decimal minutes bug in Location Wizard OK
Auto-prompt for Clear Data on image load OK
Write synoptic position entries to WR Data tab OK



Staten Island July-Dec1955:
User-settable Location Wizard default startup screen position OK
Added entries to Location Wizard Time drop list OK
Fixed decimal minutes bug in Location Wizard OK
Auto-prompt for Clear Data on image load OK
Write synoptic position entries to WR Data tab OK
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 14, 2018, 02:17:22 am
Burton
User-settable Location Wizard default startup screen position OK
Added entries to Location Wizard Time drop list OK
Fixed decimal minutes bug in Location Wizard OK
Auto-prompt for Clear Data on image load OK
Write synoptic position entries to WR Data tab *****  not sure what you mean by this ***
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 03:50:15 am
(https://i.imgur.com/twgqXm1.png)
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 14, 2018, 04:51:37 am
Thanks. Never looked that far into the SS.
Thought if I don't need it don't look in case I do something to it.

Yes it works. OK

Q. Do I need to click 'Not specified' when ALL entries in that type of log book are 'Not Specified' as either Obs or DR??

Any idea when next ships come on line?
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 05:27:01 am
Q. Do I need to click 'Not specified' when ALL entries in that type of log book are 'Not Specified' as either Obs or DR??
For each lat/long entry you need to select Observed, DR, or Not Specified.
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 05:42:22 am
With the Clear Data on image load, Hanibal's (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4336.msg148929#msg148929) and Joke Slayer's (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4646.msg149266#msg149266) data saving tricks don't work :'(
Possibly if the Clear Data was before the image load?
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Hanibal94 on January 14, 2018, 09:24:04 am
Or maybe just exempt the date from "Clear Data"?
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Bob on January 14, 2018, 01:49:14 pm
Hmm...

Or maybe just exempt the date from "Clear Data"?
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 06:08:11 pm
Any idea when next ships come on line?

Soon!
We're going to add Atlantic years for Staten Island and Storis.
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Bob on January 21, 2018, 03:18:59 pm
Hi, All -

I'm doing a bit of web site reorganization, and the direct links for ship's pages are changing. You can use the main ships page to find your way back to them:

https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships

Under the new structure the individual ship's page links shouldn't need to change again.

Thanks, and apologies for any inconvenience!
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Hanibal94 on January 21, 2018, 04:33:29 pm
I like it - Alphabetical sorting is much better than sorting by area of activity!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Project Updates
Post by: Randi on January 21, 2018, 10:11:50 pm
The Storis links have been updated and all years - except June and July 1944 - are available.