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Shore Leave => Dockside Cafe => Topic started by: Randi on January 01, 2017, 05:41:35 am

Title: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 01, 2017, 05:41:35 am
Welcome!  Here's the place for general "Hello, Howyadoin?" chat. 

So... Hello! 

Howyadoin?


Also, we've started a member's map.  Please put your city on it:
I have started an OW people map at http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ (http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ).
If you want your town (not address) on the map, message me (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=505599) with the info.
pommystuart.





Wishing you all a
Happy and Healthy New Year
...
with lots of
New Logbooks!





Previous years:
-- 2010 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.0)
-- 2011 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4756.0)
-- 2012 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4757.0)
-- 2013 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4758.0)
-- 2014 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4759.0)
-- 2015 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4760.0)
-- 2016 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4755.0)



Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 01, 2017, 06:04:59 am
Still waiting... and waiting... and waiting...   :-\

May as well go to bed, a watched New Year never comes.  ;D

That's the trouble with Pacific Standard Time, everything takes a very long time getting here. Mind you, it could be worse. I could be living Akta, Alaska, just 5 degrees and 48 seconds east of the date line far out near the western edge of the Aleutian Islands.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 01, 2017, 06:30:14 am
Michael. (and others)
If you can get Australian ABC IView try this link.
http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/new-years-eve-2016/FA1649H005S00 (http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/new-years-eve-2016/FA1649H005S00)

Belated Happy New Year to you all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 01, 2017, 01:14:45 pm
Wishing you all a
Happy and Healthy New Year
...
with lots of
New Logbooks!

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 01, 2017, 01:16:00 pm
That's how I feel about the planet, hanibal.  :'( 

Sat wearing two jumpers, thick socks, and thinking of making a pair of finger-less gloves for sessions on the computer  :)

Check out your neighborhood boat chandlery. They HAVE fingerless gloves for sailors. (You need the fingertips for fine tuning, etc.0 I have 2 pair - one by GILL & one by HARKEN!)   ;)

Oh! Thanks for the tip Dean :D I'll have a scout around for some :)

Brinicle 'finger of death'
Under the polar ice form deadly icicles of salt
(http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20161219-brinicle-finger-of-death)

Scarey stuff - amazing how fast it grew - fast enough to catch the starfish out. OK - starfish don't move quickly, but even so.  :o

Michael. (and others)
If you can get Australian ABC IView try this link.
http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/new-years-eve-2016/FA1649H005S00 (http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/new-years-eve-2016/FA1649H005S00)

Belated Happy New Year to you all.

Happy New Year to you Stuart! Couldn't get into ABC as I'm in BBC territory, but I found a condensed version of Sydney's spectacular fireworks here:  http://www.sydneynewyearseve.com/   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 01, 2017, 01:20:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/8f5etUa.png)

Hoping for a wonderful year for you all!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on January 01, 2017, 02:32:06 pm
Happy New Year, All!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on January 01, 2017, 04:15:01 pm
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/488911377690221bbf277e7984d2573aa2da0468/0_0_3500_2330/master/3500.jpg?w=1920&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=20a0d1e4a6f97f546b8da06bc4bafbe9)

Happy new year everyone. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 01, 2017, 06:06:19 pm
Great picture!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 03, 2017, 12:16:48 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Wlvdfpd.png)

Love the antlers ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 03, 2017, 06:16:53 pm
I think that's what attracted me to it too  ;)  that and the present dispensing cannon  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 03, 2017, 06:31:42 pm
Just sorting through the days picture comments on PW and this came up. It's a site we nicknamed DragonEyes (https://talk.penguinwatch.org/#/subjects/APZ000anw1) and is on Cuverville Island. It's produced the most astoundingly beautiful scenes, especially during winter, and has us all breath-taken every day several times over.

Enjoy :D

(http://i.imgur.com/Cp4pSTd.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 03, 2017, 06:40:49 pm
Stunning!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on January 03, 2017, 08:47:27 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37991269
Joel Sartore - The man who takes studio photos of endangered species

I desperately want one of those Coquerel's sifakas - I wonder if Houston Zoo have a spare one?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 03, 2017, 09:28:58 pm
That sifaka is a real sweetie, but the kid a few pictures below that looks like he's hanging on desperately to go to the loo just did it for me...  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on January 03, 2017, 10:13:18 pm
Great photos!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: leelaht on January 03, 2017, 10:27:15 pm
I saw sifak in the wild (not that close).  My recollection is that sifak live in trees, and to cross on the ground they "dance" because their hips are shaped to hug trees.  I have pix of them dancing, but on film, not digital, so unable to share (this was in '96).
And I happened to meet the fennec foxes at the St Louis zoo 2 months ago.
Someday I'd like to meet the pangolin.  What a weird-looking fellow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 04, 2017, 03:51:48 am
Sad news for people in this part of the world. Granny (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/orca-j2-granny-dead-killer-whale-1.3919060), scientific name - J2, has been declared dead at the age of 105 give or take.   :'( :'( :'(

See also (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granny_(orca))

Our friend, Charissa, took this shot of J2 this summer, during her research.

(http://i.imgur.com/58AwLsQ.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on January 04, 2017, 08:30:34 pm
Have just discovered that I could get a toy sifaka on eBay - perhaps that would be better than trying to get a real one!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 04, 2017, 08:42:52 pm
Sad news for people in this part of the world. Granny (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/orca-j2-granny-dead-killer-whale-1.3919060), scientific name - J2, has been declared dead at the age of 105 give or take.   :'( :'( :'(

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on January 05, 2017, 04:42:47 pm
Granny just got a mention on BBC Radio 4's Inside Science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b086kxwy) program. If you can listen on the iplayer, it was the first item.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 05, 2017, 07:42:04 pm
Granny just got a mention on BBC Radio 4's Inside Science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b086kxwy) program. If you can listen on the iplayer, it was the first item.

Thanks jil - just listened to it. It will be very interesting to see what becomes of her dependent sons. Amazing that she was still supporting them after so many years :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 06, 2017, 04:38:02 pm
An article (http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/global-warming-hiatus-never-happened-say-climate-scientists-1.3922378) about warming oceans.

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on January 06, 2017, 06:10:27 pm
Thanks Michael - there was a news report on this on TV yesterday, but the reporter didn't really explain the science behind the change.  He did however report that there's some anxiety about how Donald Trump will treat the NOAA, as they come up with information he doesn't like.  Worrying times.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on January 06, 2017, 06:18:17 pm
While editing the log of HMS Intrepid I was searching to check the name of a Russian ship - Lysistrata (http://www.clydeships.co.uk/view.php?ref=15179), which turned out to have been originally built for James Gordon Bennett who paid for the USS Jeannette. (Slightly less than) 6 degrees of separation!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on January 06, 2017, 07:14:36 pm
Some quick laughs:

Disgruntled employees about their former workplaces:

"Their slogan should be 'Come in and burn out!'"

"When I started, I was a grape. When I left, I was a raisin."

"OPEN(Garbage_Can). INSERT(Company). CLOSE(Garbage_Can)"

"At least it was a very consistent place: I always arrived on time and always left very late!"

"As dynamic as a train track!"

"It's like a palm tree: All the big nuts are at the top!"

"Take a kindergarten and give each kid an XXL can of Red Bull and a puppy. That's how loud it was."

"Perfectly suited for people with no hobbies, friends, family or ambitions."

"The shortest horror story ever: MONDAY."
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 06, 2017, 07:36:09 pm
The government agency my daughter worked for was privatized. The new company's vision statement was:

Quote
The best of both.

She thought even it were:

Quote
The worst of neither.

they didn't achieve it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 06, 2017, 08:58:20 pm
While editing the log of HMS Intrepid I was searching to check the name of a Russian ship - Lysistrata (http://www.clydeships.co.uk/view.php?ref=15179), which turned out to have been originally built for James Gordon Bennett who paid for the USS Jeannette. (Slightly less than) 6 degrees of separation!

Oh!! I like that brief separation :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 06, 2017, 10:23:55 pm
hanibal kindly posted this on Zooniverse news. If you want to see some super 15 second snippets of chimps and other great jungle favourites (jackals, elephants, ants) Chimp&See are having a vote for your favourite (cute, scary,fun etc). Only takes a few minutes and is great fun. The Mods put in a lot of work, especially to get it approved by the Powers That Be I understand) and it'd be great to support that effort:

The best videos of 2016, from Chimp And See:
https://cands.polldaddy.com/s/bestof2016

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 07, 2017, 06:57:58 pm
OCR limited grid test (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4637.0)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on January 08, 2017, 10:45:55 am
Happy birthday Kathy!

 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on January 08, 2017, 12:09:07 pm
All the best, Kathy!

Are you 112 now?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 08, 2017, 02:10:32 pm

Happy Birthday
to
Kathy


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3a/bd/79/3abd7963e26453592e57389e6dd4711a.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 08, 2017, 02:52:19 pm
Happy Birthday, Kathy, from me, too!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on January 08, 2017, 03:16:14 pm
Happy Birthday, Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on January 08, 2017, 04:06:22 pm
Happy Birthday, Kathy! Have a good day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on January 08, 2017, 04:10:34 pm
Happy Birthday, Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on January 08, 2017, 07:22:46 pm
Many Happy Returns, Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 08, 2017, 10:25:12 pm
A very happy birthday Kathy!

Imgur is down so picture a large chocolate cake with your name written on it  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kathy on January 09, 2017, 01:02:21 pm
Thank you all very much!  I love the cakes!  How did you all know I love the Cowboys AND chocolate  😆 You all are on my list of things I'm thankful for at the ripe old age of 111 (which will be my age forever 😂)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 10, 2017, 02:56:02 am
Warming could disrupt Atlantic Ocean current (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/warming-could-disrupt-atlantic-ocean-current)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 10, 2017, 03:16:38 am
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 10, 2017, 09:10:12 pm
I'll raise you one of those Michael
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kathy on January 10, 2017, 11:22:52 pm
should ask the RN for help - :)

http://www.sungress.com/science-technologyscientists-announce-ambitious-project-map-layer-garbage-ocean-floor/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 11, 2017, 08:31:33 pm
Goes into a cold faint - REALLY??? Well that'll be a novel diving holiday - the rubber reefs of Metropolis If the planet put its boots on and kicked us into space it would be a sensible thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kathy on January 11, 2017, 09:38:25 pm
All those sponges and brushes...and coconut mats!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on January 13, 2017, 12:28:29 pm
All those sponges and brushes...and coconut mats!

I remember editing one ship in the Gulf where they managed to lose things overboard every day - I was surprised they had anything left to clean the ship with.  I wasn't entirely convinced that it was all 'by accident' ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 13, 2017, 02:28:31 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on January 13, 2017, 06:31:03 pm
I seem to remember a post from Bunts saying that it was a lot less paperwork to 'lose' a worn out broom or paintbrush overboard than to fill in a requisition for a replacement.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 13, 2017, 09:58:27 pm
I seem to remember a post from Bunts saying that it was a lot less paperwork to 'lose' a worn out broom or paintbrush overboard than to fill in a requisition for a replacement.

That sounds delightfully Bunts like (I wonder how our old friend is?)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on January 14, 2017, 01:59:57 pm
I seem to remember a post from Bunts saying that it was a lot less paperwork to 'lose' a worn out broom or paintbrush overboard than to fill in a requisition for a replacement.

That sounds delightfully Bunts like (I wonder how our old friend is?)  :D

Me too!!!!   ;)

BTW - with the stuff lost from some of the ships it's a wonder they still floated.  Something about 'aground on chicken bones??!!....'   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 14, 2017, 04:11:28 pm
aground on chicken bones - now I need to find that in a log. Ah the teasers that keep you addicted!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on January 16, 2017, 09:01:08 pm
(http://cdn.quotationof.com/images/gene-cernans-quotes-1.jpg)

RIP, Gene.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on January 17, 2017, 12:03:34 am
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on January 17, 2017, 03:23:43 am
The Zimmerman Telegram was sent 100 years ago. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38581861
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 17, 2017, 03:51:17 am
Fascinating! Thanks, Kevin
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 17, 2017, 05:42:09 am
Question.
why do they have a 10-1 countdown to things, why not just say GO?

NNW,  28km/h, 1012hpa, 36.0, 39.5C (on my veranda), 22.0 (from weather forecast), bc, ACum 8. on my veranda at 16:40 my time.

Eggs almost cooked on the car bonnet  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on January 17, 2017, 12:42:44 pm
Question.
why do they have a 10-1 countdown to things, why not just say GO?

So we can know how long our hearts were stopped before the rocket blows up lifts off.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 17, 2017, 01:32:44 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on January 17, 2017, 02:38:50 pm
 ;D

Says Wiki (citation needed): "When counting down to the launch of an explosive, e.g. when testing a new model of gun, it is customary to omit "5" from the countdown sequence because "five" sounds too similar to 'Fire!'."
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 17, 2017, 06:50:21 pm
Reminds me of this Larson cartoon then...  ;) ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/ZW4Y5Rj.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on January 17, 2017, 07:00:25 pm
;D

Says Wiki (citation needed): "When counting down to the launch of an explosive, e.g. when testing a new model of gun, it is customary to omit "5" from the countdown sequence because "five" sounds too similar to 'Fire!'."

True Story -

We were collecting data for a mechanism operation test that involved setting off a small ordnance device to let it start moving. The count went like this:

"...six...five...four...[BANG]...three-two-one-zero!"

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 17, 2017, 07:04:31 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 18, 2017, 12:29:12 am
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 20, 2017, 06:30:59 pm
Nothing to do with weather - although it is old ;)
I found http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20170111-how-irish-falconry-changed-language interesting
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 20, 2017, 06:43:24 pm
Nothing to do with weather - although it is old ;)
I found http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20170111-how-irish-falconry-changed-language interesting

Still find it weird that the BBC tells me I can't watch things because I'm in the UK  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 20, 2017, 07:22:48 pm
 :o ::) :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 20, 2017, 07:27:47 pm
Nothing to do with weather - although it is old ;)
I found http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20170111-how-irish-falconry-changed-language interesting
Funny that last night I was just talking with family about my forth coming visit to Krka National Park & Dubrava Falconry Center  in April and this morning Randi's link appeared.  ;)

http://www.sibenik-tourism.hr/en/dubrava-falcony-center (http://www.sibenik-tourism.hr/en/dubrava-falcony-center)

(link added)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 20, 2017, 08:17:03 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 20, 2017, 09:10:03 pm
Enjoy that trip Stuart! Sounds fascinating :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 21, 2017, 12:12:57 am
Funny that last night I was just talking with family about my forth coming visit to Krka National Park & Dubrava Falconry Center  in April and this morning Randi's link appeared.  ;)

Tell us all about your visit, Stuart.
Just remember that forum rules do not permit you to hawk tickets.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 21, 2017, 01:35:42 am
Saturday, 25 March 2017   Day 1 Athens (Piraeus), Greece
Sunday, 26 March 2017   Day 2 Athens (Piraeus), Greece
Monday, 27 March 2017   Day 3 Santorini (Th?ra), Greece
Tuesday, 28 March 2017   Day 4 Olympia (Katakolon), Greece
Wednesday, 29 March 2017   Day 5 Corfu (K?rkyra), Greece
Thursday, 30 March 2017   Day 6 Kotor, Montenegro
Friday, 31 March 2017   Day 7 Dubrovnik, Croatia
Saturday, 1 April 2017   Day 8 Zadar, Croatia
Sunday, 2 April 2017   Day 9 Koper, Slovenia
Monday, 3 April 2017   Day 10 Venice, Italy
Tuesday, 4 April 2017   Day 11 Venice, Italy
Wednesday, 5 April 2017   Day 12 Spl?t, Croatia
Thursday, 6 April 2017   Day 13 Dubrovnik, Croatia
Friday, 7 April 2017   Day 14 Corfu (K?rkyra), Greece
Saturday, 8 April 2017   Day 15 Cruise the Ionian Sea
Sunday, 9 April 2017   Day 16 Naples, Italy
Monday, 10 April 2017   Day 17 Rome (Civitavecchia), Italy
Tuesday, 11 April 2017   Day 18 Florence/Pisa (Livorno), Italy
Wednesday, 12 April 2017   Day 19 Monte Carlo, Monaco
Thursday, 13 April 2017   Day 20 Toulon, France
Friday, 14 April 2017   Day 21 Barcelona, Spain
Saturday, 15 April 2017   Day 22 Barcelona, Spain

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXVEgic7Fv-psTzkZB7fW-TCPsiSnxJ1xNx_7gtC33NlQXh3Mp)

Sorry all places carrying bags have been taken. Did not even have to print tickets
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on January 21, 2017, 11:31:36 am
Looks like a great trip - lots of history!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on January 21, 2017, 12:49:28 pm
Enjoy your trip!!

BTW - Do you have any pages LEFT in that Passport with all your World Travels??!!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on January 21, 2017, 03:32:43 pm
BTW - Do you have any pages LEFT in that Passport with all your World Travels??!!   ;)

I bet he's got an extension by now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 21, 2017, 08:56:47 pm
Enjoy your trip!!

BTW - Do you have any pages LEFT in that Passport with all your World Travels??!!   ;)

Thanks, looking forward to it, pity the Europe's Schengen area does not now issue stamps, even harder to get when on a ship.

For other countries I am having to use the RIGHT pages now, the LEFT ones are all full.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 21, 2017, 10:17:37 pm
I was helping at the library today and shelving some books.
The name of one of the authors was Falconer ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 21, 2017, 11:26:14 pm
Very Belated
Happy Birthday
to
mapurves


(https://s3.amazonaws.com/storage.filemobile.com/storage/16247369/15)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on January 21, 2017, 11:50:11 pm
Happy Birthday!

Ha, nice cake!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 22, 2017, 03:36:57 am
Thank you, thank you, thank you!   :) :) :) :)

For those among you who understand, all I can say is that MyAge%10 is false!

Belated is fine too. The number of days late is only a tiny percentage of the number of days I've passed.  ;)

And, the word from my friend Marylou, who is only very slightly older than I:

Quote
Don't worry, it gets only worse!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 22, 2017, 01:42:07 pm
Sorry to miss your birthday Michael

Here's a cake that will make you feel young (because you can't have had this many candles surely?)  ;) ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/3FUub71.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 22, 2017, 04:45:35 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Almost!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 22, 2017, 06:02:08 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on January 22, 2017, 07:14:07 pm
Belated happy birthday Michael - I hope you had a fire extinguisher handy when you lit your candles!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: propriome on January 22, 2017, 07:17:46 pm
A (terribly late) happy birthday Michael!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on January 22, 2017, 08:58:37 pm
Belated happies, Michael.

(http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/01/birthday-cake-gif-23.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on January 23, 2017, 12:46:18 am
Michael:

Just remember: 

(http://i.imgur.com/aVXZ1jZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/kURjQ7T.jpg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 23, 2017, 02:40:44 pm
Thank you, one and all.
Now for another year of transcribing!


 :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on January 23, 2017, 06:29:56 pm
What I Do is for Your Own Good (https://www.youtube.com/embed/nvdXowqlv5U)

(Make sure to enable English subtitles under "Settings" in the bottom right!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 23, 2017, 06:49:06 pm
 :) :) :) :)

Great choir! And a great message, too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 23, 2017, 07:10:02 pm
:D :D :D :D :D

I so enjoyed that. I'm going to send it to my Singaporean friend who will recognise the style of life straight away ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on January 24, 2017, 11:57:01 am
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 24, 2017, 08:31:45 pm
Just keeping up with PW for a few minutes..and found this picture. It's a definition of cuteness, and the work of parents. Two sweet chicks in the centre of the picture and the centre of a halo of poop streaks. And one proud parent surveying the fruits of its labours.  Enjoy :)

(http://i.imgur.com/a7J9ksV.png)
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Post by: Bob on January 24, 2017, 11:39:32 pm
Cute!  ;D
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Post by: Randi on January 24, 2017, 11:42:44 pm
 ;D ;D
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Post by: Randi on January 25, 2017, 12:27:48 am
Massive networks of fake accounts found on Twitter (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-38724082)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on January 25, 2017, 01:29:19 am
The enforcers will always be one step behind the fraudsters on the Internet. We could dismiss all this if social media weren't having so much political influence. I am thankful that I don't have to use it, at least. Perhaps the new man in charge is a botnet?  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on January 25, 2017, 02:35:27 am
Perhaps the new man in charge is a botnet?  :P

I don't know if you ever saw the film S1mone (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258153/?ref_=nv_sr_1), but it is eerily prophetic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 25, 2017, 03:47:16 am
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20151119-can-thailand-teach-us-all-to-have-more-fun
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20170123-where-people-dont-like-to-say-no

Definitely worth thinking about.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kathy on January 25, 2017, 01:31:34 pm
Will Old Weather be affected by the new bans and gag orders? :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on January 25, 2017, 02:32:01 pm
So far, it looks to me like it's 'only' public relations and policy type communications. Knowing how government agencies react, though, I'm sure it will get treated more broadly.

Will Old Weather be affected by the new bans and gag orders? :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kathy on January 25, 2017, 02:57:37 pm
I'm a contractor for EPA - the Chinese were right that it is a curse to live in interesting times...

Gotta love the Badlands!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on January 25, 2017, 05:02:01 pm
For those in the UK (and bits of Europe looking at the map) - Possibility for nacreous cloud sightings (http://wp.lancs.ac.uk/aurorawatchuk/2017/01/25/possibility-for-nacreous-cloud-sightings/) in next few days (I had to read the link to find out what they are - but they look very pretty!)
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Post by: Thursday Next on January 25, 2017, 07:02:36 pm
Moving the goalposts?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38745937
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Post by: AvastMH on January 25, 2017, 07:40:07 pm
Moving the goalposts?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38745937

Mutterings are out and about that a lot of US climate scientists might be driven to seek refuge in the UK in order to avoid persecution by Trump's thought police.  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on January 25, 2017, 09:13:04 pm
I didn't get the impression that the search for a new baseline was anything to do with the new US administration - just that industrialization had already started by 1850 so it might be more useful to compare to earlier data and that could make the situation look better or worse, depending on what the figures turn out to be for the earlier period.  However, this report http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38746608 is much more concerning with regard to Trump's environmental policies.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 26, 2017, 12:42:45 am
For something more cheerful...

Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-38730046
The excavation of a rare, intact Viking boat burial in western Scotland has been set out in detail for the first time.
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Post by: Hanibal94 on January 27, 2017, 10:13:30 pm
Now that I've been at my new job for almost four months, I feel like it's time to tell all you guys about it.

First of all... Wow. I've really learned a lot about software development, probably even more than I did during my three years of studying/interning.
There's so many things you have to be aware of when building a new website - good content, styling and interaction is already tough enough, but there are plenty of other things too:
- Mobile responsiveness
- Page speed
- Handling external resources (minimizing, caching, switching to new versions of external script libraries and frameworks)
- Use HTTPS or not? (In my opinion, every website where you have to enter personal information/create an account should be required by law to use HTTPS for everything)
- Readability for people with poor eyesight (My grandpa used to complain all the time about how he couldn't read anything that wasn't black text on white background)
- Handling multiple languages (You may have to add support for non-English characters - or even languages that are read and written right-to-left!)

And those are just the aspects I can think of right now. I'm sure there's more.



Anyways, the company I work at does a lot of IT stuff for Red Bull - the makers of the only beverage known to grant the power of flight to those who are worthy.  ;)
I'm with the team that maintains Red Bull 2 - the current version of their web content management system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_content_management_system) and website.
This system is currently being phased out and replaced by Red Bull 3, the new version, which is much faster, newer and generally better.
See the difference for yourself:
http://www.redbull.com/en -> the English International version, which is still RB2
http://www.redbull.com/gb-en/ -> the United Kingdom version, which is RB3.

Not sure how long it will take to deploy RB3 to all remaining versions of the website - the Red Bull suits think it will be soon, but the RB3 developers I talked with over lunch think it will take a while.
But I'm not too worried - there's plenty of other projects around at the company, and I got the hang of RB2 pretty quick even though it was all new to me. I just solved my first frontend issue earlier today - and that was pretty tricky, as the RB2 frontend is very messy.
 


Now, here's some cool things from RB2 that I encountered while solving issues:


360-degree images (http://www.redbull.com/en/music/stories/1331799862428/bonnaroo-music-and-arts-festival-2016-in-360-images)

This is pretty impressive. The images take a while to load, but then you can click in them and move your view around in every direction. There's even full screen too.


Interactive Video (http://www.redbull.com/en/stories/1331778578189/red-bull-crashed-ice-saint-paul-interactive-pov-clip)

This one blew my mind when I first encountered it - you can switch perspectives while the video is playing by pressing the 1 to 4 number keys, and it still plays nice and smooth (for me anyway). How the heck did they manage it?


360-degree Video (http://www.redbull.com/us/en/snow/stories/1331821839931/the-fourth-phase-in-360-degree-video)

You may have seen this on YouTube before, but I still think it's really cool - especially when it's snowboarding that you're watching.



So yeah, that's about it for now. I'm gonna keep on going, solving issues and expanding my knowledge and skills. I hope to ascend from "junior developer" to "developer" in a few years.

P.S. If you notice any problems while looking at the stuff from RB2, please let me know - I just spotted an issue with videos autoplaying when they shouldn't be.  ::)
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Post by: Randi on January 27, 2017, 11:03:59 pm
Sounds neat!

Who knows, we might need some of your expertise as we develop the new OW ;D



Thanks for the "web content management system" link ;)

http://www.redbull.com/en/music/stories/1331799862428/bonnaroo-music-and-arts-festival-2016-in-360-images gives me what looks rather like the reflection of a room in a Christmas tree bulb, but clicking and dragging doesn't do anything :-\
Never mind. The other images work. :-[

OW mondegreen: I read "Decks and beats and beautiful people" as "Decks and boats and beautiful people."
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Post by: mapurves on January 27, 2017, 11:49:33 pm
 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 28, 2017, 05:00:36 am
Hanibal,
If you come across a keyboard that can spell correctly, I wanyt one.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on January 28, 2017, 09:08:06 am
Sorry Stuart - keyboards don't make typos. People make typos.
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Post by: Caro on January 28, 2017, 09:31:59 am
Thanks Hanibal.
I love those 360-degree videos. Truly weird and wonderful.
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Post by: Craig on January 28, 2017, 10:52:04 am
Very impressive, Hanibal  8) 8) 8)

Looks like a great job for learning new skills. I'm sure they appreciate your dedication and enthusiasm.
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Post by: Randi on January 28, 2017, 03:12:24 pm
Web link: "Surgeon lists 3 worst foods to avoid in 2017"
Um...
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Post by: Bob on January 28, 2017, 03:26:04 pm
 ???

The worst things are always best avoided.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 28, 2017, 05:51:07 pm
New mercury threat to oceans from climate change (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38769697)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on January 28, 2017, 08:53:25 pm
Now that I've been at my new job for almost four months, I feel like it's time to tell all you guys about it.

My computer didn't want to play with the links, but I'm very impressed with the concepts Hanibal. And it's so good to hear that all is going well with your new post  :D
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Post by: AvastMH on January 28, 2017, 08:53:47 pm
New mercury threat to oceans from climate change (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38769697)

And all for a yellow metal  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 31, 2017, 03:25:49 am
From last year, but still interesting: We travelled 7,500km to the Norwegian Arctic in a no-frills sailboat that was better suited for cruising the Mediterranean than penetrating the polar ice. (http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20160425-an-icy-sail-to-the-end-of-the-earth)
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Post by: Randi on January 31, 2017, 03:53:20 am
Food waste is a trillion dollar problem around the world but Denmark has managed to cut the amount of food it throws away by a quarter. Here's how it did it. (http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170124-the-country-where-unwanted-food-is-selling-out)

Here is an aspect that I wasn't aware of:
Quote
Across Europe, 100m tonnes of food a year ends up in landfills. As the food decomposes, it produces an estimated 227 tonnes of CO2 equivalent gases - roughly as much as the total fossil-fuel emissions of Spain.
...
"One of the biggest contributors to methane emissions, food waste is by far the lowest hanging fruit from an environmental perspective and arguably the least polarising or politicised environmental hazards,"
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Post by: studentforever on January 31, 2017, 08:53:52 am
My local Morrisons (supermarket) advertise that they donate unsold bread to charity, a step in the right direction.
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Post by: leelaht on January 31, 2017, 05:43:55 pm
Quote
Across Europe, 100m tonnes of food a year ends up in landfills. As the food decomposes, it produces an estimated 227 tonnes of CO2 equivalent gases - roughly as much as the total fossil-fuel emissions of Spain.
...
"One of the biggest contributors to methane emissions, food waste is by far the lowest hanging fruit from an environmental perspective and arguably the least polarising or politicised environmental hazards,"

There are a lot better ways of extracting residual value from food waste that burying in a landfill.  In the US the landfill gas emissions regulation was changed last year to apply to smaller landfills, but USEPA did not move up the timeframe to install gas capture devices.  It is thought that food waste is the first to degrade, so the gases from its decomposition will still go uncollected.  [I couldn't resist responding, landfill regulation is my day job.]
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on January 31, 2017, 06:04:41 pm
Happy to have the information!
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Post by: mapurves on February 03, 2017, 01:59:04 am
A long serving meteorologist with Environment Canada has just retired. He left the people in his office with  a sampling of some fun quotes that he's collected over the years:

?What I think is that you would save a whole lot of money if you just studied the hurricanes that actually hit land? - An unidentified insurance representative questioning Dr. James Baker, Head of NOAA, during 1996 congressional hearings on NOAA?s budget.

?There will be a rain dance Friday night - weather permitting.? - George Carlin

?There are people out there who are going to promise smaller governments, fewer taxes, better services.  They?ll make you richer, smarter and give you more hair. But we here in the weather office are just plain folks, so all that we are going to do is just deliver another fine day, period.  Best of all, it isn?t even going to cost you a thing.  Not now, not ever.  Now there is a promise.? - Mike Purves in a 1997 Yukon Weather Centre synopsis. (Issued a day after the call for a general election in Canada)

?Temperatures are trending upwards more energetically than earlier prognostications and deliberations had indicated.? - AES meteorologist Ed Hoeppner as his explanation for an amended forecast.

?Be afraid?be very afraid? - AES Meteorologist Dave Ball on impending bad weather, to the local media in Saskatoon, SK.

?Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future? - Niels Bohr, which is a variation of: "The art of prophesy is very difficult, especially with respect to the future" - Mark Twain.

?WL FOREGO WND ADVY DUE 1) SHUDN'T MEET CRITERIA FOR GREATER THAN 3 HRS, AND 2) HORSE IS OUT OF BARN.? - Des Moines Weather Office explaining their decision not to issue a wind advisory (April 1999).

?Snow and adolescence are the only problems that disappear if you ignore them long enough? - Earl Wilson

Don't knock the weather; nine-tenths of the people couldn't start a conversation if it didn't change once in a while ? Kin Hubbard

?Weather is a great metaphor for life - sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, and there's nothing much you can do about it but carry an umbrella? ? Pepper Giardino

"I'm in marketing, not production."-NWS meteorologist Dan Padavona when blamed for inclement weather.

?Wow, eating a lot of humble pie this morning. ... Too bad the [weather models] can?t answer all the phone calls.?- Dewey Walston, a meteorologist for the National Weather Service after they missed a major east coast snowstorm, Jan. 26, 2000.

[To reject a unanimous chorus of computer models] ?is the kind of stuff that gets you awards if you?re right?You?re a gutsy dude if you do it? - Andy Woodcock, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service on the missed Jan. 25, 2000 snowstorm.  Apparently, no gutsy dudes were on the case that day.

? I never realized that forecasting could be so much fun.? - PSPC forecaster Matt Loney while working of Project Phoenix (March 2001), where forecasters could only use real data and no NWP information to write forecasts.

"This is a fabulous case study, but based on the phone calls we're getting, a lot of people couldn?t care less about the research we're doing." - Leon Osborne, UND on a non-forecast blizzard, Oct. 2001, in ND.

?There is only one correct forecast?but there are millions of wrong ones.  Getting the right one is essentially impossible.  That?s what makes forecasting so tough.? - Dave Patrick, Meteorologist with the Meteorological Service of Canada.

?The weather service is the most important single service that I think we provide to the Canadian public.? - EC Minister David Anderson, March 2002.

??even with all of the technology we have developed?the human element is still essential.? - Doug Morris, Air Canada pilot and former AES meteorologist, 2002.

?Do you want to have a programmer tell you it?s a severe thunderstorm, or would you rather have a meteorologist tell you it?s one?? - Dave Westmore, programmer for MSC?s RDSS software.

"Susan, could you pass me my pants?......Susan??!!" ? from the audio of an anonymous farmer casually filming a large tornado about to hit his farm near Columbus, NE, 1998.

?Of course, this thing handles like a steel-wheeled dumpcart.? - PIREP comment reporting LGT-MDT turbulence, Nov.  21, 2002.

?I realized this is the only country in the world where you have to put your beer in the fridge to keep it warm.? - Australia's first secretary to Canada, after arriving in 1993 in Ottawa, he celebrated his new posting by buying six cases of beer, which promptly froze in his garage. The temperature that night fell to -19.2 Celsius.

"The most regrettable severe storm forecast mistakes have arisen from ignoring data that were relevant to the daily diagnosis and/or failing to complete the diagnosis on what initially appeared to be a benign weather day"  - Al Moller

"I think the next quantum leap in tornado forecasting will come from placing people back into the equation." - Chris Novy, 2003
METAR CYED 120000Z CCA 22003KT 15SM FEW052TCU BKN270 26/13 A2995 RMK TCU2CI2 MANNED OBS RESUMED CB W + NW-NE FLYG CANC DUE TO IMMNT APPOCALYPSE SLP141 - Observation on July 11, 2003 as large tornado-warned (on the Alberta Govt's EPWS) supercell approached

?The hottest and coldest place I?ve ever been to.? ? Actor Judd Hirsch, 2003, on the city of Winnipeg, after doing a play there in January and making a movie there in July.

"If I could guarantee my forecasting six months ahead of time, I wouldn't be talking to you on the phone. I would be enjoying my money on some island somewhere." ? Bob Cormier September 6, 2004 during a media interview.

"If we could predict the weather a week in advance I'd only have to go to work one day a week".  -Anonymous meteorologist, 2010

?FRANKLIN...THE  STORM...NOT THE FORECASTER...HAS BECOME A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED OVERNIGHT.  ...? ? National Hurricane Centre Discussion on TS Franklin, July 23, 2005

"In this house we OBEY the laws of THERMODYNAMICS!"  - Homer Simpson

?At least once per year, some group of scientists will become very excited and announce that:
       a) The universe is even bigger than they thought!
       b) There are even more subatomic particles than they thought!       
       c) Whatever they announced last year about global warming is wrong.?
- Humourist Dave Barry on things he?s learned in his first 50 years of life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 03, 2017, 02:06:55 am
Nice quote from Mike Purves.    ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 03, 2017, 02:14:03 am
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Bob on February 03, 2017, 03:38:07 am
"In this house we OBEY the laws of THERMODYNAMICS!"  - Homer Simpson

 ;D ;D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 03, 2017, 04:53:14 am
Quote
?FRANKLIN...THE  STORM...NOT THE FORECASTER...HAS BECOME A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED OVERNIGHT.  ...? ? National Hurricane Centre Discussion on TS Franklin, July 23, 2005

Organised, NEVER happen in this Franklin household.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on February 03, 2017, 09:53:53 am
Happy birthday, Matteo!
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Post by: AvastMH on February 03, 2017, 02:18:59 pm
Happy birthday Matteo!!!

:D :D :D
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Post by: Randi on February 03, 2017, 02:55:15 pm
Happy Birthday
to

Matteo !


(http://www.hzsfybj.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/italian-birthday-cake-round-white-3-tier-cake-with-chocolate-ball-and-strawberry-ornament-elizabeth-anns-recipe-box-happy-birthday-jesus-and-billies.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: propriome on February 03, 2017, 03:51:17 pm
 :D :D :D Thank you so much!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on February 03, 2017, 03:58:22 pm
Happy birthday, Matteo. (I hope you will share a bit of the delicious looking cake.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 03, 2017, 04:54:51 pm
You beat me to it, Craig!  Happy birthday, Matteo.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on February 03, 2017, 05:40:18 pm
Happy Birthday, Matteo!

(That cake does look good - and you could pretend it was healthy with all that fruit  ;))
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on February 03, 2017, 06:00:52 pm
Happy Birthday, Matteo!
May you complete your quest to finish the Unalga!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 03, 2017, 08:19:11 pm
Happy Birthday from me also.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: propriome on February 03, 2017, 09:04:16 pm
Thank you everybody! :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 04, 2017, 12:39:27 am
And, one more,

Happy Birthday, Matteo!

I would have responded sooner, but I had my son visiting, and he thought my spending time with him was more important than me checking the OW forum...   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: propriome on February 04, 2017, 09:01:26 am
Thank you Michael! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 08, 2017, 07:08:45 pm
That US senator that threw the snowball in the senate and declared that Global Warming was a hoax was correct! Here's proof:

(http://i.imgur.com/s8BROtj.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 08, 2017, 07:11:38 pm
And even more. I may never get out of my house. We may starve! The world is coming to an end. This is Victoria, good people, not some ridiculous city like Ottawa...  ;)

Somewhere under all that white horror are our spring flowers which came into bloom over a month ago.

THE HORROR!

(http://i.imgur.com/PHTHC8u.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 08, 2017, 08:36:47 pm
Adelaide expecting 41 today.
Sydney up to mid 40s on the weekend.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 08, 2017, 08:43:21 pm
Michael - your poor poor spring blooms  :o  You should speed some of the the white stuff over to Stuart so he can cool his feet in all that heat :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 08, 2017, 08:48:19 pm
Here's a wonderful offering from coldcounter (living in Australia) on PenguinWatch who found this piece of music made for GreenPeace

"Heard the most beautiful piece of music this morning when driving .... Ludovico Einaudi is touring here created this piece Elergy for the Artic ..... you may have heard this but if not check it out

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2DLnhdnSUVs

if you play this it is the interview that I heard that stopped me in my tracks....

https://radio.abc.net.au/programitem/pgga6dN1Z7?play=true  "

Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 08, 2017, 09:05:22 pm
Michael - your poor poor spring blooms  :o  You should speed some of the the white stuff over to Stuart so he can cool his feet in all that heat :D

parts of South Australia expecting 45+
Send all the snow you don't want.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 08, 2017, 11:03:10 pm
Michael - your poor poor spring blooms  :o  You should speed some of the the white stuff over to Stuart so he can cool his feet in all that heat :D

parts of South Australia expecting 45+
Send all the snow you don't want.

 :o :o :o (Not my kind  of weather I can tell you)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on February 09, 2017, 09:18:23 pm
Here's a wonderful offering from coldcounter (living in Australia) on PenguinWatch who found this piece of music made for GreenPeace

"Heard the most beautiful piece of music this morning when driving .... Ludovico Einaudi is touring here created this piece Elergy for the Artic ..... you may have heard this but if not check it out

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2DLnhdnSUVs

if you play this it is the interview that I heard that stopped me in my tracks....

https://radio.abc.net.au/programitem/pgga6dN1Z7?play=true  "

Enjoy :)

I love Einaudi - hadn't heard this piece before, though.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 09, 2017, 09:20:42 pm
 :D :D :D   I liked the drama of the glacier front calving away right next to him ad his piano...very effective  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on February 10, 2017, 09:25:23 am
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/43e0e941d7bb40e8ae21a5d3eb87116e?width=650)

The BoM's forecast for across Australia at 2pm today [February 10]

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on February 10, 2017, 09:49:40 am
Yuck! That makes me feel quite pleased that it's only 2C outside at the moment.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on February 10, 2017, 02:26:30 pm
Perth looks OK.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on February 10, 2017, 04:10:56 pm
Only if you like rain. Perth has had its second wettest day since records began.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 10, 2017, 08:10:16 pm
Did someone leave the oven door open in Oz? Looks like regulo 9 to me  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 10, 2017, 09:24:51 pm
Sanity returns... (10C and rain). The snow departs, the flowers emerge..

(http://i.imgur.com/vZ8wfBW.jpg?1)

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 10, 2017, 09:42:32 pm
Ah - Galanthus - so much promise in such a tiny flower- very nice Michael, very nice :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Tegwen on February 11, 2017, 05:22:09 pm
I went to a really interesting lecture last night.

It was at Plymouth University & was organised by the South West Maritime History Society. The main speaker was Dr Innes McCartney, a researcher & lecturer in marine history. He was talking on his research on the Jutland Battlefield, including identifying where all of the wrecks are, and which is which. It was him that found HMS Warrior, the last to be located. He has even identified exactly which of the 13 destroyer wrecks is which. He is giving other public lectures in the UK, you can see more here. https://www.facebook.com/innes.mccartney/?hc_ref=SEARCH

He also has a book out, on this work. Jutland 1916, The Archaeology of a Naval Battlefield. It has now gone to the top of my Christmas present list. Also looking forward to seeing publication of his recent work scanning Scarpa Flow.

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 11, 2017, 11:02:53 pm
I imagine that was a totally engrossing lecture - it's an impressive bit of archaeology to work out of all those wrecks.  8) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 12, 2017, 01:22:56 am
Ah - Galanthus - so much promise in such a tiny flower- very nice Michael, very nice :D

I just thought it was a Snow Drop not some fancy name plant.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 12, 2017, 01:40:39 am
They are snow drops ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 12, 2017, 06:43:38 am
They are snow drops ;)

I Know, just joking  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 12, 2017, 02:41:33 pm
Stuart do you get snowdrops where you are - or would they get totally cooked out each summer perhaps?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 12, 2017, 07:03:38 pm
Joan, See this web site.
http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/fact-sheets/in-the-garden/flowering-plants-shrubs/snowdrops/#.WKCxRDt97IU (http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/fact-sheets/in-the-garden/flowering-plants-shrubs/snowdrops/#.WKCxRDt97IU)

(I do get a garden bed full of Bluebells each year (and I never planted them).

Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 12, 2017, 07:25:09 pm
A doodle is up on Google for Valentines Day on the 13th down here. ??
Is it on a different day up there?  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on February 12, 2017, 08:01:52 pm
A doodle is up on Google for Valentines Day on the 13th down here. ??
Is it on a different day up there?  ???

Still the 12th up here in Western New York State. We'll look on the 'morrow!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 12, 2017, 08:40:57 pm
Joan, See this web site.
http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/fact-sheets/in-the-garden/flowering-plants-shrubs/snowdrops/#.WKCxRDt97IU (http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/fact-sheets/in-the-garden/flowering-plants-shrubs/snowdrops/#.WKCxRDt97IU)

(I do get a garden bed full of Bluebells each year (and I never planted them).

Stuart.

Looks like it needs to be up the mountains or further south and that seems about right :D  Bluebells are lovely :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 13, 2017, 07:55:15 pm
Oh no! Poor PenguinWatch scientists in Antarctica - their building got condemned today  :o :o  :'( :'(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-38934959

(http://i.imgur.com/QVO1J10.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 14, 2017, 12:09:33 pm
Where on earth will they find for them to go?  Oxford is pretty full already .... :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on February 14, 2017, 05:21:55 pm
Poem for Valentine's Day

roses are red
oldWeather is dandy
I've been here a long time
even longer than Randi

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 14, 2017, 06:05:38 pm
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 14, 2017, 08:04:05 pm
 :D :-* :D :-* :D

(Helen, that's a big question. Looks like some departments have raced around and taken folks under their wings. My department is full to bursting so we can do nothing  :'( The PenguinWatch Team have found refuge in the Zooniverse Offices just now  ;D Biggest worry is for the portering and cleaning staff who will hopefully be re-deployed too  :-[ :-\ It's been a big shock for us all)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 14, 2017, 08:20:35 pm
Poem for Valentine's Day

roses are red
oldWeather is dandy
I've been here a long time
even longer than Randi



 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 15, 2017, 02:36:05 am
Where on earth will they find for them to go?  Oxford is pretty full already .... :(

There are probably going to be lots of empty government offices in the US any day now. Maybe they can go there...    :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 15, 2017, 11:53:17 am
But would they get past immigration? 
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 15, 2017, 04:43:24 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Matt_AINA on February 15, 2017, 06:16:51 pm
Hi,

I figured here was the best place to introduce myself.

I've been aware of Old Weather's fantastic work for a good few years now, having worked with Philip and Kevin in the past.

It is amazing how much data you have all transcribed! I know how long it takes having worked my way through a fair few British Arctic whaling logbooks during my PhD.

I have just moved to Calgary to work at the Arctic Institute of North America...Canada is COLD! -30C the first week I arrived, which is a little colder than my native NE coast of the UK.

Once I've thawed out I will be continuing my work on some more of the British whaling logbooks which hunted in the Davis Strait and Baffin Bay, but I will also be looking at the OW data for the Chukchi and Beaufort Seas.

I am hoping to help out with transcription and Caro has been very helpful in getting me set up with this.

I am really interested to see if/how the American whalers differed in there hunting practice and if they share any vocabulary with the British whalers...especially stuff relating to sea ice.






Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 15, 2017, 06:21:15 pm
Welcome on board!
You will find everyone happy to help
(or failing that, make bad puns!)



PS AvastMH (Joan) is our whaler expert ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 15, 2017, 08:13:49 pm
Welcome Matt_AINA.
Joan is also our Penguin expert but that is a different story.
Please enjoy your time with OW and don't be shy about asking for help.

Explore some of the other boards, some are heavy technical and others are light and fun.

Pommystuart from Downunder.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on February 15, 2017, 09:06:08 pm
Welcome Matt.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: propriome on February 15, 2017, 09:16:04 pm
Welcome aboard!! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on February 15, 2017, 09:52:15 pm
Welcome to OW and to Canada, Matt. It's not so cold in Ottawa-Gatineau  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 15, 2017, 10:40:15 pm
Whalers!! Did I hear someone say 'Whalers'? Matt - I'm longing to know what you make of the US whalers compared to the UK ones. Just been doing the Alexander logs - plenty of ice (not so many whales by 1900 though). It'll be interesting to compare seas for a start off.  Anyway - if you want to try out the US ones on OWW there's not a lot just now, mostly the third transcription (you can mark as well, but no need to unless you spot something missed by previous transcribers) for the Alexander logs and the John Winthrop.

You'll have found the website for the whalers here by now: https://whaling.oldweather.org/#/
and there's lots about the whaling ships here: Learning the ropes https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/117
and the Whaling Shipyard: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/157

If you want any help/info please either pop a message over here http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=35.0 and here http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=36.0 or over at the Whaling Shipyard shown above

Good to have you on board :D

Joan (AvastMH)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on February 16, 2017, 12:41:25 am
Found this by accident when milling around the Naval History and Heritage Command website: https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/c/casualties-usnavy-marinecorps-personnel-killed-injured-selected-accidents-other-incidents-notdirectly-result-enemy-action.html

I think we'll be able to add to this list (unfortunately).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 16, 2017, 01:24:25 am
If they are interested, we can certainly add.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 16, 2017, 06:27:57 am
Welcome, Matt. You should be ere in Torino: 11C Wind SE45 gusting to 60. Just had 170 mm rain in the past 24 hours with more still falling. (10:26) PM. Gusts up to 76 kmh five hours ago.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 16, 2017, 01:18:24 pm
Welcome Matt; good to have you around.  I hope you get settled in to Canada before too long, and enjoy your new job.  I know the NE of England can be chilly (I spent three years in Newcastle, and am about to move to Darlington) but your temperatures sound extreme!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 16, 2017, 03:59:40 pm
Helen,

-30C is just cold. -50C is extreme!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 16, 2017, 04:11:55 pm
They both sound extreme to me!  Even chilly Edinburgh, where I was brought up, and shivered at many bus stops, didn't get as low as -30C.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Matt_AINA on February 16, 2017, 06:16:22 pm
Thank you all for the warm welcome!

Joan - yes very interested to discuss all things whaling with anyone that will listen haha! I'm currently going back through my British whaling data as I now have access to ARCGIS, so will hopefully have some summer sea ice edge positions mapped out in the near future. Whalers hunting the Bowhead are very good for reconstructing summer sea ice edge position (certainly in the Davis Straits) as they follow the Bowhead's northward migration...which follows the sea ice retreat. I'll read through the current whaling threads and be in touch.

mapurves - Rain! I kind of miss it, haven't had any here in Calgary. It rained the whole time I was in Seattle recently though :D It is warm here now as we are currently experiencing a Chinook wind, temperature has gone from -30C last week to +12C today!

Helen - I lived in Tynemouth most my life, at one point I lived round the corner from where George Palmer lived who was Captain of the Arctic whaler Cove in the early 19th Century. It is a different kind of cold here, not too bad as the humidity is low. -30C in Calgary is a lot more tolerable than -5C on the NE coast with a northerly wind!

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 16, 2017, 08:18:11 pm
Helen,

-30C is just cold. -50C is extreme!  ;D ;D ;D

below 50c it is just academic.   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 16, 2017, 08:46:56 pm
Do you mean plus 50 or minus 50 Stuart?  ;)
Hope the temperature in Oz is going down a bit  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 16, 2017, 09:45:10 pm
Do you mean plus 50 or minus 50 Stuart?  ;)
Hope the temperature in Oz is going down a bit  :)

I minused the minus  :-[ make it -50c

We are cooling down now, max temps in my area for this week 31c to 20c and mins 9c to 18c.
Mower the jungle yesterday, seems like it was done only last year, things grow quick down here.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 19, 2017, 08:34:52 pm
Pittsburgh, PA
I have the windows open to get some fresh air - and I am wearing a short-sleeve shirt ::)
A week and a half ago we had four or five inches of snow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on February 19, 2017, 08:43:22 pm
Better than 70F here (outside D.C.) the last two days. Got my early-spring yard cleanup done in late-winter.  :o :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on February 20, 2017, 12:20:15 am
Pittsburgh, PA
I have the windows open to get some fresh air - and I am wearing a short-sleeve shirt ::)
A week and a half ago we had four or five inches of snow.

Pretty much the same here in western New York State (Niagara Falls,NY) Even did a run with the leaf vac to get some of the ones left from Fall.  Scary part is the temps are to be 50's (+10?C) for  most of the next week!! Should be in the 20's or -teens? C!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 20, 2017, 05:00:53 am
Seagrasses boost ecosystem health by fighting bad bacteria (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/seagrasses-boost-ecosystem-health-fighting-bad-bacteria)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 20, 2017, 02:20:09 pm
Ice-locked ship to drift over North Pole (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39024227)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 20, 2017, 02:32:41 pm
Ice-locked ship to drift over North Pole (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39024227)

I heard about this on the news this morning - thanks for finding out more.  It was in my mind - but you beat me to it!  I wonder whether they need any citizen scientists to join the crew!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on February 20, 2017, 04:54:48 pm
Quote
It will, however, be a difficult expedition for the scientists involved, especially during the freezing midwinter period when the Sun will not get above the horizon.
The researchers will also have to keep their eyes peeled for predatory polar bears.

Oooooh, I think I'll leave it to the experts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 20, 2017, 06:28:03 pm
I'm with Caro  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 20, 2017, 06:33:25 pm
I was thinking of the kind of role which meant I could stay safely on board ship admiring the polar bears from afar ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 20, 2017, 07:01:54 pm
How do they know that it won't simply womble around in a figure of eight as the Jeannette did?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on February 23, 2017, 07:44:06 am
It's Doris (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39060095) Day.
No longer a laughing matter.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 23, 2017, 11:40:28 am
It's an excellent day to be as far inland as possible, with everything battened down!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on February 23, 2017, 05:35:47 pm
My village is fine, just a bit of wind. BUT hills are snow covered, local motorways subject to all sorts of problems, and I am glad that I have retired, my power supplies are OK and I can amuse myself doing a bit of housework, some editing and beginning to map out an 'object biography' for my egyptology course.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 23, 2017, 06:25:43 pm
Very gusty in Oxford. Had to go out at lunchtime an nearly got blown over  :o  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 23, 2017, 08:13:02 pm
Please arrange for good weather 17-24 April.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 23, 2017, 08:35:03 pm
Happy to help  Stuart - anything in particular that you were thinking off?  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 24, 2017, 02:18:17 am
How about some Pea Soup?   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 24, 2017, 03:07:26 am
Pea soup is fine, but a bottle of Hoyne's Gratitude is much better...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 24, 2017, 08:43:11 pm
 ;D ;D ;D (Had to look it up - but I am inclined to agree Michael)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 24, 2017, 09:05:11 pm
To quote a commercial for Red Rose Tea...
Quote
"Only available in Canada," you say. Pity!     ;)

Probably only available on Vancouver Island. Sorry, Craig.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on February 25, 2017, 12:42:39 am
Did I ever tell you about the time I ordered a tea in a Victoria restaurant and they made it in a coffee maker? This wasn't high tea at the Empress Hotel, of course, but just the same. I was tempted to report them to the tea police but there wasn't a bobby in sight. Outrageous!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 25, 2017, 01:17:16 am
Did I ever tell you about the time I ordered a tea in a Victoria restaurant and they made it in a coffee maker?
:P :P :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 25, 2017, 03:18:20 am
Did I ever tell you about the time I ordered a tea in a Victoria restaurant and they made it in a coffee maker? This wasn't high tea at the Empress Hotel, of course, but just the same. I was tempted to report them to the tea police but there wasn't a bobby in sight. Outrageous!  ;D

 :o :o :o :o

Are you sure it wasn't Victoria, Texas?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on February 25, 2017, 12:16:02 pm
I don't think they know what tea is in Texas. Can you imagine the Lone Ranger brewing a cup of tea on the Texas plains? Tonto might have, but it would have been herbal.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 25, 2017, 09:06:20 pm
Hmmm....cactus leaf tea?  :-[   I guess in Texas they are best at beef tea (there's an old fashioned idea :))
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on February 25, 2017, 11:07:21 pm
The Beauty of Human Flight: Jetmen and the Patrouille de France (https://www.youtube.com/embed/pNaZCDhvh88)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on February 26, 2017, 12:03:48 pm
Spectacular, Hannibal. However, too much fossil fuel use for my liking. Did you see the documentary about electric Solar Impulse flying around the world? What an exploit that was! It charged up its batteries during the day to be able to make it through the night. Of course, they had to carefully select the the time and course to get enough sun. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on February 26, 2017, 12:16:10 pm
I see that I won't be occupied very long doing OW spreadsheets (OWS) until Philip figures out how he is going to process the test data we have generated.

So in the meantime, is there any OW classic ship I can do without causing any leapfrogging? I prefer to work between 6:30 and 10 AM my time which is 11:30 AM to 3 PM UTC. I guess I can look for ice for a while. (It's all melting where I live. Warmest winter in years.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on February 26, 2017, 01:44:59 pm
You could do the Albatross 1900 - I only work on her on weekends, and Hurlock only does a few pages per day (his timezone is UTC).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on February 26, 2017, 03:25:14 pm
Thanks, Hannibal. I'll try it out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on February 26, 2017, 04:01:11 pm
APOD: Supercell thunderstorm (https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap170226.html)

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on February 26, 2017, 06:21:56 pm
Those things are awesome to behold.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 26, 2017, 06:30:27 pm
Wow !
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 26, 2017, 07:35:16 pm
The Beauty of Human Flight: Jetmen and the Patrouille de France (https://www.youtube.com/embed/pNaZCDhvh88)

Thanks, Hannibal. I'll try it out tomorrow.

Just for a moment I got these two linked up....I was going to offer to hold your coat and your hat as you went aloft Craig  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on February 26, 2017, 07:44:32 pm
Thanks Joan - that was the best laugh I've had in quite a while!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on February 26, 2017, 07:49:50 pm
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 26, 2017, 07:51:38 pm
APOD: Supercell thunderstorm (https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap170226.html)

 :o

That poor tree - looks like a bit of dust on the lens compared to that monster  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on February 27, 2017, 05:26:46 pm
IMPORTANT: Old versions of Skype will no longer be usable soon.

https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/02/03/the-skype-you-love-is-getting-better-download-it-for-free-today/

Quote
Because we want to provide our users with the best possible Skype experience, necessary changes must be made along the way. So, beginning March 1, users running older versions of Skype for Windows desktop (7.16 and below) or Skype for Mac (7.0 to 7.18) will no longer be able to sign in. If you?re one of those users, all you?ll need to do is download the new update. For more information on which devices and operating systems Skype currently supports, please check our support site.

How to check which version of Skype you currently have (https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10659/what-version-of-skype-am-i-using-on-my-computer)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on February 27, 2017, 06:02:49 pm
Thanks, hanibal - I checked and I'm still OK.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 27, 2017, 06:05:48 pm
I enjoyed the fight video, but I was left with one question: how did those guys land????
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 27, 2017, 09:05:31 pm
Thanks Hanibal - I'll remember to check mine soon  :D

Michael - that went through my mind and I decided not to find out just in case they hadn't thought of that. Frankly I don't know how they didn't expire from windchill factor cooling. They weren't wearing very thick clothing as far as I could make out :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 28, 2017, 03:31:23 am
I enjoyed the fight video, but I was left with one question: how did those guys land????

Easy, they ran out of fuel and came down.  :P

See
JetMan lands on the Corniche at the Abu Dhabi Science Fest - YouTube

https://youtube.com/embed/fwQxiZdbGyU
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 28, 2017, 10:16:57 pm
Phew - that was a relief!  :o  Didn't think about parachutes  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on February 28, 2017, 10:43:40 pm
Phew - that was a relief!  :o  Didn't think about parachutes  :D

I was hoping there was a video of him coming in at 125 knots while wearing a pair of inline roller blades.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on February 28, 2017, 10:45:24 pm
Phew - that was a relief!  :o  Didn't think about parachutes  :D

I was hoping there was a video of him coming in at 125 knots while wearing a pair of inline roller blades.  ;D ;D

I think you should contact him and offer the suggestion Michael  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on March 01, 2017, 09:13:42 pm
My old Flight Instructor used to remind me that he never saw one get stuck up there yet! They always come down somehow!!!   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on March 05, 2017, 06:50:59 pm
From the Yukon News.

A marble sculpture carved by Gordon Peter sits on a hill above the North Canol Road while northern lights dance over Ross River on Wednesday.

(http://www.yukon-news.com/media/images/2017/march/03/FProssriver_lights.jpg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on March 05, 2017, 07:07:36 pm
What a picture!  I'd love to have been sitting alongside the sculpture (wrapped up nice and warm!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 05, 2017, 10:28:16 pm
That's a breathtaking picture...breathtaking!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 06, 2017, 02:08:52 am
Brr!
Even the statue seems hunched up against the cold.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Maikel on March 06, 2017, 08:33:00 am
In case you're not following Journey Plotter on social media, I've created a new JP logo animation.
It won't take up much of your time, it's only 30 seconds long.

It includes H.M.S. Cornwall, or rather, an interpretation of H.M.S. Cornwall. ::)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/lgDNPCQ9lhw (https://www.youtube.com/embed/lgDNPCQ9lhw)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 06, 2017, 01:40:49 pm
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on March 06, 2017, 02:31:36 pm
"
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on March 06, 2017, 05:14:11 pm
Impressive!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 06, 2017, 08:28:17 pm
That's just soooo cooool Maikel. Lovely graphics :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on March 07, 2017, 08:16:35 am
General question.
What are the divisions under Drills and Exercises?  And don't anybody say First, Second etc  ;)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol046of055/vol046of055_0039_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol046of055/vol046of055_0039_0.jpg)

Never noticed anything put there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hurlock on March 07, 2017, 10:06:59 am
I think it is a standard log book meant to apply to a wide range of ships and the divisions would apply in the case of a larger warship that might have a bigger crew and a marine contingent and a wider range of drills or exercises to do.  I do not think there is a dredging drill.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on March 07, 2017, 10:20:36 am
Seems to be groups of hands, so far they've referred to pairs of guns, different decks and I think the odd mast or two all of whom have been exercising 'divisional drills', 'rifle drill', 'pistol drill', 'cutlass drill' among others. See Edinburgh Castle 4th Aug 1917 9 Oct 1917 17 & 18 Oct 1917, 24 Oct 1917 etc. She pays off 1 crew and acquires another and I think the captain (or 1st Lieutenant) is making sure they are up to scratch. They seem to be keen on drills to the end of the year, including going over the mast!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: propriome on March 07, 2017, 03:22:49 pm
Agree with studentforever.

On Unalga crewmembers (about 60 in the 30s) are sometime splitted between First, Second and Third Division (i've seen it happening only when helding certain drills - particularly boat drills).
In the 10s and 20s, when ship crew was smaller (~40), there was no such distinction at all.

For liberties we have also a subdivision between 'Port' and 'Starboard' watches. Also some drills are, from time to time, for 'special ratings' only.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on March 07, 2017, 07:40:55 pm
Thanks for the info.
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on March 08, 2017, 08:19:29 am
Happy International Womens Day to those who it applies.
We certainly look after you down here.
 Traffic lights (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-07/female-traffic-light-signals-melbourne-pedestrian-crossing/8330560)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on March 08, 2017, 11:27:58 am
World's first ship tunnel (http://gcaptain.com/worlds-first-ship-tunnel-to-bypass-dangerous-seas-in-norway/)

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: propriome on March 08, 2017, 11:45:46 am
 :o :o :o

I've cruised there! I was aboard the MS Nordkapp (https://www.hurtigruten.com/ships/ms-nordkapp/) in August 2010, (she took, of course, the only available route) and can remember sea becoming quite rough at a certain point of the trip to Lofoten Islands (it was night and we were trying to sleep - with very little luck due to the rolling of ship ;D).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 08, 2017, 07:21:33 pm
Happy International Womens Day to those who it applies.
We certainly look after you down here.
 Traffic lights (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-07/female-traffic-light-signals-melbourne-pedestrian-crossing/8330560)

So can I still use the lights if I'm wearing trousers please Stuart?  Then again, Scotsmen wearing kilts should be greatly relieved.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 08, 2017, 07:22:39 pm
World's first ship tunnel (http://gcaptain.com/worlds-first-ship-tunnel-to-bypass-dangerous-seas-in-norway/)

 :o

Okay - how many old tyres will it take to line it?   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on March 08, 2017, 07:38:31 pm
Happy International Womens Day to those who it applies.
We certainly look after you down here.
 Traffic lights (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-07/female-traffic-light-signals-melbourne-pedestrian-crossing/8330560)

So can I still use the lights if I'm wearing trousers please Stuart?  Then again, Scotsmen wearing kilts should be greatly relieved.  ;D ;D ;D

Further down the page was this comment..Better equality PR would be if Melbourne left pedestrian light signals the same and said "See, it doesn't matter what women choose to wear!"

Joan, make of that what you will.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on March 08, 2017, 09:06:47 pm
besides being International Womens day 100 years ago 8 march 1917 rioting and protesting broke out in then Petrograd formerly and now St Petersburg the capitol of the Russian Empire. It was the being of the February/March revolution.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 08, 2017, 10:04:02 pm
Happy International Womens Day to those who it applies.
We certainly look after you down here.
 Traffic lights (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-07/female-traffic-light-signals-melbourne-pedestrian-crossing/8330560)

So can I still use the lights if I'm wearing trousers please Stuart?  Then again, Scotsmen wearing kilts should be greatly relieved.  ;D ;D ;D

Further down the page was this comment..Better equality PR would be if Melbourne left pedestrian light signals the same and said "See, it doesn't matter what women choose to wear!"

Joan, make of that what you will.   ;D

Far too profound a conundrum to me!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 08, 2017, 10:11:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Vqj2hhw.png)

Today also celebrates 100 years of women joining the Royal Navy, click here for link to WRNS site (https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/events/wrns100/170308-exhibition-launch)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 09, 2017, 07:48:02 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on March 12, 2017, 02:04:02 am
Good news!

We were out for dinner at our favourite Chinese restaurant, after having to drive 218.6 km north so my CO could give someone an injection and then 218.6 km back home. (The trip was necessary because the nurse who would have had to drive 100 km didn't want to.)  :o :o :o

The fortune in my fortune cookie read:

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There is new hope for the project you're working on.

For those who like lotteries, the winning numbers are: 1 15 22 23 24 and 34.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 12, 2017, 02:13:38 am
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on March 12, 2017, 02:21:05 pm
  :) :D :) ;D :) :D

And I'm glad you had some reward for your good deed (and that the CO had some company on this epic journey!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 12, 2017, 07:45:20 pm
'For those who like lotteries, the winning numbers are: 1 15 22 23 24 and 34.'

Great, is that for last week or the same week next year ?  ;) ;) ;D

Well done for your kind trip. That's some trip ! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on March 14, 2017, 05:40:50 pm
Boaty McBoatface set for first voyage (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39232973)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on March 14, 2017, 06:24:41 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on March 14, 2017, 07:36:31 pm
I hope it doesn't run into Lochy McLochness.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 14, 2017, 07:52:59 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 14, 2017, 11:05:30 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Amazing how the name has become adopted with humour rather than the earlier outrage  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 14, 2017, 11:08:54 pm
Well, it was pretty awful as a name for a major scientific research vessel.
Now that that is safely settled, we can enjoy it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 14, 2017, 11:10:05 pm
True :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on March 15, 2017, 07:28:56 pm
I assume that by now, everybody has heard that WikiLeaks recently published thousands of documents revealing top CIA hacking secrets, including the agency's ability to break into iPhones, Android phones, smart TVs and Microsoft, Mac and Linux operating systems.

Google, Apple and several other software vendors have since released patches, so now is a good time to do what I just did: Go through all the applications on your computer, and check every single one for updates.

Operating systems and browsers are obviously the most important, but in my opinion, it's best to update everything - Notepad++, IrfanView, Thunderbird and VLC Media Player were all on the CIA's list.
If you don't know how to update something, just ask Google.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on March 15, 2017, 09:24:47 pm
And then they wonder why I don't really want a smart meter!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 15, 2017, 10:08:47 pm
It's all a bit of a cyber nightmare to me. If you update things today won't 'they' be out of date so soon that you can hardly keep up with it though?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on March 16, 2017, 05:27:18 pm
Sorry Joan, but I don't understand what you just said.
Are you saying that updates come out so quickly, it's impossible to keep up?
Cause I don't think that's true - it only took me maybe an hour to update everything on my private computer, and I have a lot of applications on it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on March 16, 2017, 09:18:33 pm
That is the difference between a nimble fingered youngster brought up on all things digital and the arthritic fingers (in my case anyway) of people brought up to think that the thermionic valve was high tech. (I was born before the writable memory was devised!!) We can do it but it takes us so much longer and re-learning the new routines takes us a lot longer as well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 16, 2017, 10:52:47 pm
Are you saying that updates come out so quickly, it's impossible to keep up?

Yep - that was it hanibal :) Trust me, they come pretty fast for me. But it's interesting to know how long it takes you to get there with it too  :)

That is the difference between a nimble fingered youngster brought up on all things digital and the arthritic fingers (in my case anyway) of people brought up to think that the thermionic valve was high tech. (I was born before the writable memory was devised!!) We can do it but it takes us so much longer and re-learning the new routines takes us a lot longer as well.

Gosh I agree with you studentforever. What ever happened to the good old cathode ray tube too?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on March 16, 2017, 10:54:28 pm
or the circular slide rule.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on March 16, 2017, 11:22:43 pm
I think I may begin to downgrade rather than upgrade. Keeping a low digital profile is best.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on March 17, 2017, 06:34:12 am
I've already said that I want a fridge that just keeps my food cold and neither talks to the internet nor comes with integral TV. I've already had a rubbish failed smart electricity meter (Mark 1, still reads as a meter but wont talk to its 'handlers' and I'm waiting with trepidation for them to give me a 'new' one). I even have a phone which just makes phone calls as well as a mobile which adds texts to its repertoire as well as (I believe) an alarm & radio. I do have computer and kindle but otherwise I find keeping up with the technology more trouble than its worth,
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on March 17, 2017, 09:31:09 pm
I agree - the Internet of Things is overrated, and really needs better security. I'm not buying any of that stuff.

As for updates: In my opinion, you should at least update your operating system and your favorite browser.
That's not so much - Chrome and Firefox install most updates automatically and in the background, and Windows is pretty good about telling you of new updates.

Other than that, maybe keep Adobe Flash and Skype up to date as well. The former has been exploited several times in the past and still has a bad reputation, while the latter is used by loads of people, so any security holes in it would be quite valuable for spies or hackers.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on March 17, 2017, 11:19:27 pm
or the circular slide rule.

I still have a couple and know how to use them!!!   ;)

One is a 'specialty' one for sailing courses & flying navigation!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on March 18, 2017, 12:03:07 am
or the circular slide rule.

I still have a couple and know how to use them!!!   ;)

One is a 'specialty' one for sailing courses & flying navigation!

I never got round to remembering where I lost it.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 18, 2017, 12:23:49 am
 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on March 18, 2017, 04:19:14 pm
Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on March 23, 2017, 07:31:51 pm
Twelve new types of cloud earn official recognition (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39351843)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 23, 2017, 08:31:54 pm
Twelve new types of cloud earn official recognition (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39351843)

That new cloud is quite stunning. Sort of looks like a stretched out mammatus cloud :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on March 24, 2017, 01:43:46 am
Can anyone more clever than I am tell me where the ship is? They are reporting:

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Lat 73o 28' 120 feet above the sea. Near 180 meridian.

I'm guessing their lat is 73.47N but does the 120 feet above the sea mean? Google answers not.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 24, 2017, 01:48:48 am
What is the context?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on March 24, 2017, 01:56:48 am
What is the context?

The Rodgers does not believe they should make life easy for those of us trying to figure out where she is.

Here is a hint from 24 Sept 1881 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0122_1.jpg). This is a day or so into a four day trip and it is the closest thing I have as a location, other than the starting point, ending point and the hourly reports of courses and distances travelled.

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8 to Mrdn.
   Overcast and cloudy. Clear to Nd after 10 a.m. Lat 73o 28'N at an altitude of 120 feet above the sea. About the 180 Mrdn. No land was visible in any direction. blah blah blah...

I have a brother-in-law who teaches navigation and offshore sailing etc and I have a call to him but he isn't at home.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 24, 2017, 02:05:42 am
How about a link for the page you are asking about ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on March 24, 2017, 02:08:43 am
Click on the blue characters...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 24, 2017, 03:08:21 am
 :-[

4-8am mentions "ice reported from Mast head"

Maybe they mean that looking out from 120 feet above sea level no land was visible.

I gather that they are in the vicinity of Wrangel Island?



138ft long. Looking at the picture (http://www.naval-history.net/OW-US/Rodgers/USS_Rodgers.htm), a height of 120 feet seems possible :-\

Quote from: https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/r/rodgers-i.html
Continuing on, Rodgers took on two Chukchis as hunters and dog drivers at St. Lawrence Bay and on 20 August entered the Arctic Ocean. At Herald Island, Lt. Berry found that the crew of Corwin on her second search for Jeanette, had already covered the island, unsuccessfully. Wrangell Land was next. As they looked for clues of the missing ship, the crew of Rodgers surveyed the area and proved that Wrangell Land was an island and not the southern edge of a polar land mass.

Rodgers departed the island 13 September and moved north and west until stopped by pack ice on the 18th. Returning to Wrangell, she continued the search on another course until the 27th. Again blocked by ice, she turned south for winter quarters. The first week in October she left a party, under Master C. F. Putman, on Tiapka Island off Cape Serdze with provisions, supplies, and fuel for a year; and a boat, dogs, and sleds to explore the coast westward in search of the crews of Jeanette and the missing whalers.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on March 24, 2017, 03:40:33 am
:-[

4-8am mentions "ice reported from Mast head"

Maybe they mean that looking out from 120 feet above sea level no land was visible.

I gather that they are in the vicinity of Wrangel Island?


I do believe you are correct. The writing and periods or lack thereof was confusing me. In any case, I used their Lat/Long. Three thousand lines in and my brain is turning to mush...  :o

Thank you, thank you, Randi. You are brilliant!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 24, 2017, 04:01:01 am
 :-[

Just looking at the question from a different perspective ;)
I probably wouldn't have guessed it without the earlier comment of ice reported from the mast head.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on March 24, 2017, 04:58:18 am
Just like a man, I'm just too focused on looking for directions!  ;D ;D ;D

Although I appreciate the remarks about the brilliant northern lights, the whales, walruses and etc.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kathy on March 27, 2017, 03:50:39 pm
SPOILER ALERT IF YOU WATCH ELEMENTARY -
Hi all -

Just wanted to pop in and tell you about a new use for a log book's weather data I just heard about - On Elementary, Sherlock Holmes compares the weather data from various ships' logs to prove that a suspect log is indeed fake - what a great use! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on March 27, 2017, 07:59:27 pm
 :D :D :D  Good on you Sherlock!

I wonder if the Patterson log might be proof of the existence of the dastardly Moriarty?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on March 28, 2017, 02:58:04 pm
Well, there has to be some reason ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on March 28, 2017, 03:04:33 pm
:D :D :D  Good on you Sherlock!

I wonder if the Patterson log might be proof of the existence of the dastardly Moriarty?  ;)

funny how I was thinking the same thing  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on March 30, 2017, 03:25:55 pm
On this day, March 30
1867 U.S. Secretary of State William Seward reached agreement with Russia to purchase the territory of Alaska for $7.2 million (the rough equivalent of $125 million today), a deal ridiculed by critics as "Seward?s Folly."
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on March 30, 2017, 03:51:41 pm
The same year as Canadian confederation. But Rupert's land, Newfoundland and North-Western Territories still belonged to Great Britain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 01, 2017, 01:20:48 am
Thinning ice creates undersea Arctic greenhouses (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/thinning-ice-creates-undersea-arctic-greenhouses?tgt=nr)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 01, 2017, 08:33:32 pm
Well did we did get a report that the phytoplankton are carbon dioxide gobblers.  :) Will it be that such a humble item will save the planet from the mess we are making of it?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 02, 2017, 04:39:10 am
S Korean cargo ship Stellar Daisy vanishes in South Atlantic (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39467269)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on April 02, 2017, 04:52:29 pm
Hi everybody,

Got some good news concerning my job: I have completed my probational period, so now I have all the rights and privileges of a regular employee!
There wasn't really any doubt, though. I never received negative feedback from the boss or anything.
I really like the company - I'm getting along really well with the other employees, and am still learning so much. I've already learned more in the past six months than I did during the three years of college courses!

In my last post, I mentioned Red Bull 2, the old version of redbull.com. I'm not working on that anymore because all the countries are slowly switching to Red Bull 3, the new system. France, Canada and the USA have all switched in the past month, and we got a lot more coming up this month. In fact, Red Bull 2 has reached end-of-support: The boss said that from now on, we should only do critical bug fixes for it.

So now I'm working on other projects. My main focus is the new website for the soccer team RB Leipzig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RB_Leipzig), sponsored by Red Bull. We're basically rebuilding their website from scratch, with a whole new style and everything. I'm doing the backend stuff - constructing templates for pages and parts of pages, and adding content.
RB Leipzig was only founded in 2009, but has done really well - they're now playing in the Bundesliga, the highest league in Germany's professional soccer system. Quite a feat.
Anyways, the new website is supposed to be ready by May 12th, but we may not make it in time - there's still a lot left to do. But I'm doing my part the best I can. At least I'm not in charge, so I won't get the blame if it's delayed.  ;)

I've also worked a bit on Amaphiko - a platform for social entrepreneurs. It's a website that lists social projects from around the world and tells you how you can help support them, and there's a magazine with social success stories. Here's the site: https://amaphiko.redbull.com/en

So yep, things are looking good. I hope I can stay with this company for the next five years at least, or even longer. It's a great place to work.
Back when I started my college courses in October 2013, I was very uncertain if IT was the right field for me. But now I know it is.


- Hanibal94
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on April 02, 2017, 05:41:43 pm
Brilliant news, hanibal - not that I ever doubted you would do well.  But it's good to know that your company agrees with what we all know about your dedication.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 02, 2017, 05:53:23 pm
A company that you like and a company that likes you....
Great news, Hanibal!
I am really happy for you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on April 02, 2017, 07:38:25 pm
I knew you would make it too, Hanibal. Your have an excellent mind for IT work!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on April 02, 2017, 07:52:38 pm
That's great, what we sometimes call round pegs in round holes. The job obviously fits you very well. It's also good that you are getting on with your colleagues, that will help to get you through when things don't work as well as you hope and most of us hit a few bumps and ruts as we go through jobs.  All in all, a very good report, A pity I can't read German, I could look at your website and admire your handiwork.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hurlock on April 02, 2017, 08:00:05 pm
Good to hear that you are doing well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on April 02, 2017, 08:04:26 pm
Great to hear that things are going so well, hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 02, 2017, 09:16:52 pm
What an excellent start you've had hanibal. It sounds like you've settled there really well and it's peeking your interest which always makes work so much easier. And it sounds like you're already a valued and trusted member of the team. And all of this is down to you so you must be very pleased. I hope that the websites work out well  :D
Well done!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 03, 2017, 01:24:45 am
Hes, Hanibal! Hooray for you! I had no doubts whatsoever that you would be brilliant in the IT field. Congratulations and well done!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on April 03, 2017, 03:15:54 pm
I'm moving house tomorrow, so will vanish for a bit - but I'll be back on the other side!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on April 03, 2017, 04:37:53 pm
Good luck, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 03, 2017, 05:06:59 pm
I hope you have as many helpful friends as I did!

From where to where?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 03, 2017, 06:10:49 pm
Yes, Helen, good luck. I wish I could be there to help, but...  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on April 03, 2017, 06:17:20 pm
Randi - From Nottinghamshire to Darlington; all on my own ....  I've just about reached the point where I ought to stop doing anything more, as I'm just wandering about not accomplishing anything much.
Michael - thanks for the good wishes and the good intention!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 03, 2017, 07:20:05 pm
Very good luck with your move Helen :D  And quite a change in dialect/accent too ;)  I hope it all goes smoothly - and that the weather stays reasonable...being a move to the East I think you might get away with it :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on April 03, 2017, 07:40:04 pm
Good luck with your move, Helen!



Math Professor fixes projector screen (https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z9NQatne0xg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 03, 2017, 07:45:36 pm
Math Professor fixes projector screen (https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z9NQatne0xg)

Superb!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on April 03, 2017, 08:41:46 pm
Very good luck with your move Helen :D  And quite a change in dialect/accent too ;)  I hope it all goes smoothly - and that the weather stays reasonable...being a move to the East I think you might get away with it :D

Thank you Joan - the accent shouldn't be too much of a problem, as my parents came from County Durham and although neither had strong accents I seem to have it in my blood.  And I went to college in Newcastle upon Tyne.  The weather doesn't look too bad - not as beautifully sunny as today, but mostly dry, which is the main thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on April 03, 2017, 09:15:36 pm
Hope the move goes well, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on April 03, 2017, 10:38:48 pm
Helen:

God's blessings as you move on. Just remember - my dad always taught me that a moving target was harder to hit! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 04, 2017, 10:39:41 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 08, 2017, 04:37:31 am
Climate change is literally turning the Arctic ocean inside out (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/06/scientists-say-the-unique-arctic-ocean-is-being-transformed-before-our-eyes/?utm_term=.372fefaffa5b&wpisrc=nl_green&wpmm=1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on April 08, 2017, 12:04:48 pm
Interesting. Thanks Randi.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 08, 2017, 05:29:38 pm
Sigh! What a nightmare  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 08, 2017, 08:38:29 pm
If anyone receives an email from me that looks odd please delete it but let me know that you got the thing. Looks like I've been hacked once more - sigh!  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on April 11, 2017, 08:27:48 pm
The Indian Alphabet Song (https://www.youtube.com/embed/xkEHzmBSqOU)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on April 12, 2017, 03:00:55 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: leelaht on April 12, 2017, 10:58:33 pm
arg, just spent the last 3 hours driving back and forth to the library which has wireless access so I could chat on-line with my ISP to figure out how to restore internet access at home.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 12, 2017, 11:13:09 pm
arg, just spent the last 3 hours driving back and forth to the library which has wireless access so I could chat on-line with my ISP to figure out how to restore internet access at home.

 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: leelaht on April 12, 2017, 11:16:56 pm
I've decided to salve my soul with creamed spinach for dinner.

OW wasn't the first thing I did back on-line.  It was the second.  So I'm not truly addicted... am I?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 13, 2017, 12:32:39 am
I've decided to salve my soul with creamed spinach for dinner.

OW wasn't the first thing I did back on-line.  It was the second.  So I'm not truly addicted... am I?

Mmmmmm! Creamed spinach!  :) :) :)

As for the addiction, I'm not qualified to offer an opinion!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 13, 2017, 04:02:33 pm
I understood that only addicts of OW eat Creamed Spinach. I think the common (ship) denominator is Pop-Eye the Sailor Man. Check...
Do you have muscly arms?
Do you have an anchor tattoo?
Do you smoke a pipe?
'No' to each question? Phew!! After all - you'd probably rather be an addict of OW than Pop-Eye  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: leelaht on April 13, 2017, 05:09:15 pm
Well I do go to the gym everyday, I have pierced ears rather than a tattoo, my recreational vice is eating chocolate, and I am in need of corrective lenses...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 13, 2017, 06:03:35 pm
Well I do go to the gym everyday, I have pierced ears rather than a tattoo, my recreational vice is eating chocolate, and I am in need of corrective lenses...

I go to the gym three times a week, I have no piercings, no tattoos, no jewelry (not even a watch), I have had corrective lenses since I was about four (though two more operations will fix that  :) ), my vice is eating a row of dark French chocolate with almonds every day, and a carrot muffin from Daniel's Patisserie on gym days. I have enormous self control as evidenced by the fact that I can go into Daniel's Patisserie three days a week and come out with only a carrot muffin!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 13, 2017, 08:55:55 pm
Michael - your self control is inspirational! At the moment I am fighting the call of the Hot Cross Bun. A toasted hot cross bun with lashings of butter is a lovesome thing God wat, and I certainly cannot say 'no' when they come my way.  :-* :P :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 14, 2017, 03:19:46 pm
Scientists just found a strange and worrying crack in one of Greenland?s biggest glaciers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/14/scientists-just-found-a-strange-and-worrying-crack-in-one-of-greenlands-biggest-glaciers/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 14, 2017, 05:48:16 pm
Watched that and the linked video about collecting the data for sea water under Petermann Glacier. It too shows considerable warming of those waters. What a nightmare :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 16, 2017, 05:02:13 am
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7kGyjb49WS4/Tp8zBaSw1zI/AAAAAAAAE8c/38X1Wx8DVaA/s1600/_easter-egg-ship_.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 16, 2017, 07:22:41 pm
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7kGyjb49WS4/Tp8zBaSw1zI/AAAAAAAAE8c/38X1Wx8DVaA/s1600/_easter-egg-ship_.jpg)

Brilliant one Randi  ;D

And a Happy Easter to all from the:

(http://i.imgur.com/aRbeWWf.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 16, 2017, 07:32:41 pm
And a Happy Easter to all from the:

(http://i.imgur.com/aRbeWWf.png)

Now THAT is a brilliant one Joan ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on April 16, 2017, 08:01:53 pm
I'm not sure if that is a good thing to eat, though...

Quote
Billy wants to get rich quick and have lots of money. The problem is, he doesn't want to work for it. So, after being given a man-eating comic by Grim, he begins reading it. He soon finds an advertisement for the Chocolate Sailor. Billy applies and receives his starter kit in 5 seconds. He eats all the chocolates and has to get more. He keeps doing it until he is what he eats... literally, he turns into solid chocolate and Grim and Mandy must find an antidote to have Billy return to normal. Unfortunately, Billy eats all four of the different chocolates with one that contains the antidote and explodes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 16, 2017, 08:14:04 pm
Um, no, that doesn't sound so good...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 16, 2017, 08:49:41 pm
I'm not sure if that is a good thing to eat, though...

Quote
Billy wants to get rich quick and have lots of money. The problem is, he doesn't want to work for it. So, after being given a man-eating comic by Grim, he begins reading it. He soon finds an advertisement for the Chocolate Sailor. Billy applies and receives his starter kit in 5 seconds. He eats all the chocolates and has to get more. He keeps doing it until he is what he eats... literally, he turns into solid chocolate and Grim and Mandy must find an antidote to have Billy return to normal. Unfortunately, Billy eats all four of the different chocolates with one that contains the antidote and explodes.

 :o :o :o Well that's one to tell the kids when the Easter chocolates have been eaten (too fast)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 20, 2017, 02:47:27 pm
The Arctic is a final garbage dump for ocean plastic (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-ticker/arctic-final-garbage-dump-ocean-plastic)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 20, 2017, 03:32:01 pm
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 20, 2017, 06:19:25 pm
 :'( :'( >:( :'( :'(   
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 20, 2017, 06:53:29 pm
:'( :'( >:( :'( :'(

Is this flags behind the leader? I have one flag behind me, so you have two behind you, so I up my number of flags to four, then you to eight and so on? Our dearly beloved leader Sir Stephen the Blessed actually got up to at least 16 for one press conference.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 20, 2017, 08:41:48 pm
It might be, but only and Tuesday at full moon and if there is an 'r' in the month  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 20, 2017, 11:53:15 pm
 
It might be, but only and Tuesday at full moon and if there is an 'r' in the month  ;) ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on April 21, 2017, 03:50:26 pm
Iceberg tourists flock to Newfoundland town (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39632047)  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 21, 2017, 05:30:19 pm
Impressive photo!

Good for the town, but:
Quote
It's already been a busy season in iceberg alley, with hundreds of icebergs reported in the Atlantic - many more than usual for this time of year in the coastal regions.
doesn't sound good.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on April 21, 2017, 05:30:53 pm
 8) photo
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 21, 2017, 07:51:09 pm
Impressive photo!

Good for the town, but:
Quote
It's already been a busy season in iceberg alley, with hundreds of icebergs reported in the Atlantic - many more than usual for this time of year in the coastal regions.
doesn't sound good.

Yes - if only we could tow them back and stick them back onto the Arctic  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 23, 2017, 02:46:40 am
Scientists have discovered vast systems of flowing water in Antarctica (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/19/the-surface-of-antarctica-is-covered-with-flowing-water-that-has-scientists-worried/?utm_term=.9f8eaeb08302&wpisrc=nl_green&wpmm=1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 23, 2017, 03:41:23 am
Deep-sea life on Earth gives us a clue to what aliens would be like (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/04/13/deep-sea-life-on-earth-gives-us-a-clue-to-what-aliens-would-be-like/?utm_term=.8aa1e06ddaf5&wpisrc=nl_science&wpmm=1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 23, 2017, 11:49:43 am
Nightmare and strange solace from those two articles.  Then I read another article there which made me sorry for you all across The Pond (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/04/22/surgeon-general-vivek-h-murthy-removed-by-trump-administration-replaced-by-deputy-for-now/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandomuk_3_na&utm_term=.d2815842a81b).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on April 23, 2017, 01:55:24 pm
Thanks for those very interesting articles, Randi and Joan.


Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on April 24, 2017, 12:20:32 am
Nightmare and strange solace from those two articles.  Then I read another article there which made me sorry for you all across The Pond (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/04/22/surgeon-general-vivek-h-murthy-removed-by-trump-administration-replaced-by-deputy-for-now/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandomuk_3_na&utm_term=.d2815842a81b).

The whole thing in Washington scares me.

I believe it was Pogo who said 'We have met the enemy, and he is us!'  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 24, 2017, 04:25:06 pm
Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39697256
The Scream (1892), by Edvard Munch, depicts a figure holding its face, which is making an agonised expression.
But look above this individual and the sky is full of colourful wavy lines.
The researchers say these are probably Mother of Pearl [Nacreous] Clouds - rare phenomena that would have had a big impact on anyone who saw them for the first time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 24, 2017, 07:37:52 pm
Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39697256
The Scream (1892), by Edvard Munch, depicts a figure holding its face, which is making an agonised expression.
But look above this individual and the sky is full of colourful wavy lines.
The researchers say these are probably Mother of Pearl [Nacreous] Clouds - rare phenomena that would have had a big impact on anyone who saw them for the first time.

I'd be amazed - though that's the face I'd put on if I walked out and found myself under mammatus clouds which look like they might well fall on your head.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on April 24, 2017, 08:41:30 pm
That's been my face ever since the UK general election was announced!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 24, 2017, 08:49:36 pm
That's been my face ever since the UK general election was announced!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 25, 2017, 02:59:40 am
In case you needed another reason (http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/40311-great-barrier-reef-reaches-terminal-stage-as-co2-levels-rise-at-record-rate) for doing OW...  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 26, 2017, 12:41:56 am
In case you needed another reason (http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/40311-great-barrier-reef-reaches-terminal-stage-as-co2-levels-rise-at-record-rate) for doing OW...  :'(

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( It beggars belief that one inhabitant of a planet can eradicate the rest.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on April 26, 2017, 10:19:41 am
Hi Honey, I'm Home Guys, I'm home.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 26, 2017, 03:03:16 pm
Welcome back!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on April 26, 2017, 05:16:57 pm
Welcome back!

Seconded!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 26, 2017, 05:19:02 pm
Welcome back!

Seconded!

Thirded!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 26, 2017, 11:15:32 pm
Welcome back!

Seconded!

Thirded!

Fourthed  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on April 26, 2017, 11:35:24 pm
Agreed!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on April 27, 2017, 12:05:53 am
Welcome back!

Seconded!

Thirded!

Fourthed  ;D

Fifth!  ;)  and we'll share one in your honour! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on April 27, 2017, 01:26:30 am
Thanks folks.
Now to get my PC back into transcribe mode instead of sleep mode where it has been for the last 5 weeks.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on April 27, 2017, 09:22:55 pm
Glad to see you back here, Stuart.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 12:14:27 am
Hi Stuart. Hope there's something left for you to do.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on April 28, 2017, 01:42:55 am
It's getting thin on the ground without treading on others toes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: leelaht on April 28, 2017, 11:53:52 pm
come tread on Jamestown
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on April 29, 2017, 12:23:29 am
Sorry, following a suggestion from Hanibal I have already started on Yorktown.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on April 29, 2017, 08:38:35 pm
Seal pup interrupts Redcar lifeboat operations (https://rnli.org/news-and-media/2017/april/27/seal-pup-interrupts-redcar-lifeboat-operations)

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on April 29, 2017, 08:58:37 pm
Seal pup interrupts Redcar lifeboat operations (https://rnli.org/news-and-media/2017/april/27/seal-pup-interrupts-redcar-lifeboat-operations)

 :)

 :) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 29, 2017, 09:22:45 pm
Seal pup interrupts Redcar lifeboat operations (https://rnli.org/news-and-media/2017/april/27/seal-pup-interrupts-redcar-lifeboat-operations)

 :)

 :D :D :D Nice to get a good news story
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 30, 2017, 12:02:03 am
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on April 30, 2017, 12:30:35 am
I guess that rates a 'seal' of approval!!   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on April 30, 2017, 12:46:53 am
 
I guess that rates a 'seal' of approval!!   ::)
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 30, 2017, 12:55:25 am
I guess that rates a 'seal' of approval!!   ::)
:P :P :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on April 30, 2017, 08:12:25 pm
Less happy news - sadly it's almost not news any more:

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21721379-current-trends-arctic-will-be-ice-free-summer-2040-arctic-it-known-today

 :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on April 30, 2017, 08:24:12 pm
 :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 01, 2017, 04:02:13 am
Everyone knows that you don't mess with the OW moderators...

This morning I passed 'lawn' consisting largely of ugly weeds and dandelions gone to seed. I thought to myself: "That really needs to be mowed."
When I passed again this afternoon, it had been mowed!
 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on May 01, 2017, 12:38:57 pm
 ;D ;D ;D

I am now building a firewall to keep out unwanted mental influences. It will be a really big wall and the Americans are gonna pay for it ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 01, 2017, 10:28:10 pm
 ;D ;D ;D

My mind is boggling with possibilities Randi. The lovely 35ft pine tree they hacked down outside the other week will re-grow overnight. I'll stick with that - don't want to show of or anything  ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 01, 2017, 11:24:18 pm
;D ;D ;D

I am now building a firewall to keep out unwanted mental influences. It will be a really big wall and the Americans are gonna pay for it ;D

Will your wall go through the Straits of Juan de Fuca? I do hope so...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 01, 2017, 11:39:02 pm
Helping with ships!

I have finished with a number of other OW tasks, and I have time to jump on board any vessel who's crew will have me. I have looked at the first available pages, which will be in the third stream, and they are:

I will co-ordinate transcribing times with whomever is working on the third streams so we don't get in each other's way. Let me know, I'm cheap.  ;D ;D ;D

If no-one wants me in the US Navy, I'll go off and hunt either whales or ice...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on May 02, 2017, 12:05:05 am
Hi Michael.
I am sure 'anybody' would be pleased to have you on board.
(As a Canadian are you sure you want to re-enlist in the US service.)

I have joined the Yorktown and am usually transcribing 0800hrs UTC for as long as I can fit it in. (Except my Tuesdays and Wednesdays.)
I think Hanibal is also doing it and we do not clash.
When we get info on what to do with the Albatross 1900 I will go back on it if needed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 02, 2017, 12:07:47 am
From some of Kevin's comments, ice hunting may be useful :-\
You might just list the pages that have ice with out transcribing it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 02, 2017, 12:10:09 am
From some of Kevin's comments, ice hunting may be useful :-\
You might just list the pages that have ice with out transcribing it.

Ice works for me. I can't remember the location for the ice pages. Send it along and I will do ice...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 02, 2017, 12:11:10 am
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=40.0

Just pick a ship ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 02, 2017, 12:12:01 am
I am doing Bear 1923 for ice :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 03, 2017, 05:21:51 am
Hi Craig. Are you keeping your head above water? Is your part of town relatively dry? No flooded basement I hope...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on May 03, 2017, 10:21:24 am
Some people have been evacuated along the Gatineau river but I am on fairly high ground. More rain is forecast for tomorrow and Friday and showers for the next week. May flowers are hoping for some sunshine.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 03, 2017, 11:08:32 pm
A new crack in one of Antarctica?s biggest ice shelves could mean a major break is near (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/02/a-new-crack-in-one-of-antarcticas-biggest-ice-shelves-could-mean-a-major-break-is-near/?tid=pm_business_pop&utm_term=.d5f6a800a914)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 04, 2017, 10:33:14 pm
That is soooo depressing  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on May 04, 2017, 10:41:01 pm
Morning Joan.
I brought you some good weather 18th - 25 April. Hope you enjoyed that.
When I/we left, the temp dropped quite a bit as you got a high from the arctic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 05, 2017, 06:19:46 pm
Awfully quiet here these days.
How about a challenge? Everyone find a topic that has been quiet for a year or more and post something relevant in it ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 05, 2017, 07:00:49 pm
Morning Joan.
I brought you some good weather 18th - 25 April. Hope you enjoyed that.
When I/we left, the temp dropped quite a bit as you got a high from the arctic.

Ah - it was you Stuart - that was very kind. I enjoyed it very much, even got my chair outside for a session in the warm sun...pop back again soon  :D . We've now got a nor'easterly, sunny but freeeezing cold  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 05, 2017, 07:16:24 pm
so... Thanksgiving with the family, Harry Potter, or transcribe ships logs?   ???

AAAUUUGGGHHHH decisions!!  If I don't stay, I'll lose my captaincy!!

Great idea Randi!! Here's jennfurr displaying a classic onset of OW-addiction. At a time when we were (nearly) all Harry-Potter-ised, OW could give JK Rowling a good run for her money.  And the horror of losing your captaincy was super focusing. I made it to captain on a few new ships and kept screen snips to show it. I can't find them now but they are here somewhere :D

Anyone else got memories of being captain?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 05, 2017, 07:24:47 pm
I made it to captain a grand total of once ::)
Naturally that was at the point (beginning of OW3) when ranks and WR counts were not being displayed correctly so I never showed up as captain :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on May 05, 2017, 07:38:25 pm
Anyone else got memories of being captain?  :D

Oh yes. I joined the City of London because she was receiving very little attention, and quickly seized her captaincy.
Later I got bored and left to do other vessels.

A few months later, I happened to get her on the OW homepage when I logged in, and I noticed her % complete had gone up by a lot since I had left.
So I looked, and saw someone else was doing a lot on her, and very close to becoming Captain.
The next few weeks were interesting - I pumped out as much as I could to keep my position, but the other person kept chasing me. It was like an arms race.
By the time they gave up, the ship had gone from 40% to over 80% complete.

I was more watchful after that, and it paid off - I was still the captain when the ship was completed.
I also tried to become Captain of the Ark Royal, but lost by just a few hundred. Hmmph.

Quote from: Bartholomew Roberts
For I have dipped my hands in muddied waters, and, withdrawing them, find 'tis better to be a commander than a common man!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: leelaht on May 05, 2017, 11:09:14 pm
I don't think it was my first, probably my second, to celebrate and due to an immediate need, I made it my google+ user name:

HMS Raven 2
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on May 06, 2017, 03:58:52 pm
I managed to make captain a few times in Phase 1, I think.  There were so many ships in those days that it wasn't too hard.  I had an agonizing time on Grafton, where I made it to Captain, stayed there until I'd done all the logs I could, and then had to watch as the next highest transcriber steadily crept up on me, until he just overtook me.  And there was nothing at all I could do - aargh!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 06, 2017, 04:19:40 pm
Wasn't Grafton fun!  ;)  I heard about OW from a friend who thought I should work on it. I was late to the party, i.e. things were well underway when I joined. I joined Grafton in 1915 when she was in the Red Sea and was on her until the end of her logs. So, Helen and I were on Grafton together, and then we were on Patterson together. Isn't that a pip!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 06, 2017, 04:55:18 pm

I also tried to become Captain of the Ark Royal, but lost by just a few hundred. Hmmph.

Quote from: Bartholomew Roberts
For I have dipped my hands in muddied waters, and, withdrawing them, find 'tis better to be a commander than a common man!

I'm so sad for you hanibal.  :( Captain of the Ark royal has to be a real feather in a cap, even though it's not the real thing on the ocean deep  ;D
Still - think of all the other times you skimmed the muddy waters and became commander.  ;) 8)

Great stories everyone  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 06, 2017, 04:56:24 pm
Hmmmm second thought, to add to captaincies, the silliest list you ever transcribed?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 06, 2017, 08:37:38 pm
While hunting ice with Bear, August 10, 1913...

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At 6:10, anchored to large floe and banked fires. Crew held dance and sports on ice. Tug of war won by starboard watch. Vessel drifting to Northward about 3/4 knots per hour.

The temperature was 41, there was little wind and only a few clouds, so it would have been quite pleasant. Footing would have been tricky.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 06, 2017, 09:45:18 pm
While hunting ice with Bear, August 10, 1913...

Quote
At 6:10, anchored to large floe and banked fires. Crew held dance and sports on ice. Tug of war won by starboard watch. Vessel drifting to Northward about 3/4 knots per hour.

The temperature was 41, there was little wind and only a few clouds, so it would have been quite pleasant. Footing would have been tricky.  ::)

What a sight that would have been! I wonder if it was more of a slip-of-war though  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 06, 2017, 10:37:46 pm
Here's mine from the Jeanette four and a half years ago  :D

The total number of items in the list was 1306 including 500 lbs of tea that this English woman forgot (thanks for sorting that one Randi)  ::)

Favourite entries:    
3 doz. black lead pencils; a half doz. blue lead pencils; a half doz. red lead pencils; 2 fog horns; 1 pair dividers
Well - where else would you put fog horns other than in a list of stationery items?  ::) ;D

1 crow's nest; 1 melodeon~
Presumably the melodeon was not for the crow's nest though :D

And a curious late provision of 3-and-a-half door knobs ;D

Kevin Wood raised an interesting point with reference to 'things you can do with mercury on a long sea voyage to pass the time', or did he mean the ship?'
Keep an eye on those 2100 lbs of tomato. And by the way, did anyone see bottles of mercury (Hg) come on board? It could be for an 'artificial horizon' (navigation) or to fill barometers. In many published accounts from British ships one finds that someone ends up doing something silly with it - like boiling it on the cabin stove - which is why today our President sits at a desk made out of the HMS Resolute.

 :o ;D I shouldn't laugh - but I did - lots.  And yes - there's a bottle of mercury on board! and a stove, and stove lighters, and kindling, and fuel and.... ::)

I'm still chortling at that last one  ;D

And a really big thank you to especially jil, and all the other fine OW-ers who checked the 1306 items  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 07, 2017, 04:08:49 pm
Floods over many parts of Canada (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/flooding-central-eastern-western-canada-1.4103541), including Craig's town of Gatineau. Happily, Craig was clever enough to buy a house on high ground.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 07, 2017, 04:52:45 pm
 :o :o :o  Terrible floods- and such a large area! I'm glad that Craig is above the water line :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 07, 2017, 05:13:35 pm
Kevin Wood raised an interesting point with reference to 'things you can do with mercury on a long sea voyage to pass the time', or did he mean the ship?'

Keep an eye on those 2100 lbs of tomato. And by the way, did anyone see bottles of mercury (Hg) come on board? It could be for an 'artificial horizon' (navigation) or to fill barometers. In many published accounts from British ships one finds that someone ends up doing something silly with it - like boiling it on the cabin stove - which is why today our President sits at a desk made out of the HMS Resolute.
Why on earth would anyone even try to boil mercury? :o
According to Wiki the boiling point is: 629.88 K ​(356.73 ?C, ​674.11 ?F)

Treasures of the White House: "Resolute" Desk
(https://3ff009b6523c0c1f8b94-091582592a5f780b4bac3b68414d35fd.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/default/_superImage/President-Hayes-Desk.jpg) (https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/treasures-of-the-white-house-resolute-desk)
No mention of mercury.

Discovery of HMS Resolute:
The book of one thousand tales and amusing adventures: a work for youth (https://books.google.com/books?id=YR8pAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA70&lpg=PA70&dq=HMS+Resolute+mercury
&source=bl&ots=qG0u5ZeM5i&sig=EAnDDOQ0VpqT5gFdU33-YsEOfUI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirrcTKk97TAhVGOSYKHZxUAv0Q6AEIUjAK#v=onepage&q=HMS%20Resolute%20mercury&f=false)
It does mention that the mercury froze, so maybe they were trying to thaw it :-\



Floods over many parts of Canada (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/flooding-central-eastern-western-canada-1.4103541), including Craig's town of Gatineau. Happily, Craig was clever enough to buy a house on high ground.  :) :) :)
Hope it is high enough, Craig!
Hope you are OK, Michael!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 07, 2017, 06:52:16 pm
If I blew up the Resolute I probably might fib about what I was cooking up in the galley at the time  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 07, 2017, 07:10:44 pm
If I blew up the Resolute I probably might fib about what I was cooking up in the galley at the time  ;) ;D


Except that there is no mention of it being blown up...

It was abandoned, in an orderly manner, during the Franklin search:
Quote from: https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/treasures-of-the-white-house-resolute-desk
"H.M.S. 'Resolute', forming part of the expedition sent in search of Sir John Franklin in 1852, was abandoned in Latitude 74o 41' N. Longitude 101o 22' W. on 15th May 1854. She was discovered and extricated in September 1855, in Latitude 67o N. by Captain Buddington of the United States Whaler 'George Henry'. The ship was purchased, fitted out and sent to England, as a gift to Her Majesty Queen Victoria by the President and People of the United States, as a token of goodwill & friendship.
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Resolute_(1850)#Belcher_Expedition
Resolute was still beset by this floe ice in the spring of 1854. In April, Belcher ordered Captain Kellett to abandon Resolute. Only under protest did Kellett do so. He prepared the ship the way he would for winter: taking all her rigging down below except for the very lowest sections of the mast, shipping the rudder, and caulking all the hatches.

She was recovered and returned to England:
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Resolute_(1850)
Resolute served in the Royal Navy from 1856, never leaving home waters, until she was retired and broken up in 1879.
Quote from: https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/treasures-of-the-white-house-resolute-desk
This table was made from her timbers when she was broken up, and is presented by the Queen of Great Britain & Ireland, to the President of the United States, as a memorial of the courtesy and loving kindness which dictated the offer of the gift of the "Resolute'."



OK, Kevin - what is the whole story? ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 07, 2017, 10:00:02 pm

Hope it is high enough, Craig!
Hope you are OK, Michael!

No worries here. We don't do rain between April and October.  ;)  I'll change my opinion about living here after the 8 or 9 on the Richter Scale earthquake.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on May 07, 2017, 10:06:43 pm
First minus of the season. -2 this morning.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 07, 2017, 10:20:13 pm
I thought there was a Resolute desk at Buckingham Palace too. I kind of hope there's some truth to the story about the mercury because it's a lot of fun, from this distance!  ;D

Michael - glad you have no rain  :D  Stuart, winter draw(er)s on then?  ;D

We had a blazingly beautiful day here today, blue sky though a chilly wind still. And the May blossom is exceptional this year :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 07, 2017, 10:23:37 pm
I thought there was a Resolute desk at Buckingham Palace too.

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Resolute_(1850)#The_Resolute_desks
The British government ordered at least three desks to be made from the timbers of the ship, and they were constructed by cabinet makers at the Joiner's Shop of Chatham Dockyard. A large partner's desk was presented to U.S. President Rutherford B. Hayes in 1880 as a gesture of thanks for the rescue and return of Resolute.[1] Since then, this desk?known as the Resolute desk?has been used by every American President except Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. Most Presidents have used it as their official desk in the Oval Office, but some have had it in their private study in the Executive Residence. Dwight D. Eisenhower was the first to remove it from the Oval Office, and it was returned to the Oval Office first by John F. Kennedy and then by Jimmy Carter.[1]

A second desk, called the Grinnell Desk or the Queen Victoria Desk, was also made from the timbers of HMS Resolute. This smaller lady's desk was presented to the widow of Henry Grinnell in 1880 in recognition of her husband's generous contributions to the search for Franklin. In 1983 it was given to the New Bedford Whaling Museum and is in their collection in New Bedford, Massachusetts.

A third desk, or more accurately a writing table, was commissioned by Queen Victoria; it remains part of the Royal Collection and is on long-term loan to the Royal Naval Museum in Portsmouth.[6]
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on May 07, 2017, 10:31:05 pm
To my knowledge the Resolute was found intact, drifting in the ice pack (I think it was well out in Baffin Bay / Davis Strait by then). I've never heard of it being blown up -- it was broken up in the yard as described below. What is an interesting back story which I don't think has been explored is this: in expedition commander Belcher's journal he writes that he was concerned about the purity of the mercury provided the flagship for its instruments. In those days they used bulk mercury to fill both their barometers and artificial horizons, so there was quite of bit of it loose about the cabin. In some idle moment one winter he decided that he could improve its purity by giving it a good simmer on the cabin stove. From that point one finds regular mention in his and other officer's journals about his mood swings, bad humor, and untoward irascibility, along with discolored nails etc. I would propose that he gave himself an acute dose of mercury poisoning on that evening, and this later formed a component of his abrupt decision to abandon most of the squadron (including the Resolute) and sail home on the next transport.

If I blew up the Resolute I probably might fib about what I was cooking up in the galley at the time  ;) ;D


Except that there is no mention of it being blown up...

It was abandoned, in an orderly manner, during the Franklin search:
Quote from: https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/treasures-of-the-white-house-resolute-desk
"H.M.S. 'Resolute', forming part of the expedition sent in search of Sir John Franklin in 1852, was abandoned in Latitude 74o 41' N. Longitude 101o 22' W. on 15th May 1854. She was discovered and extricated in September 1855, in Latitude 67o N. by Captain Buddington of the United States Whaler 'George Henry'. The ship was purchased, fitted out and sent to England, as a gift to Her Majesty Queen Victoria by the President and People of the United States, as a token of goodwill & friendship.
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Resolute_(1850)#Belcher_Expedition
Resolute was still beset by this floe ice in the spring of 1854. In April, Belcher ordered Captain Kellett to abandon Resolute. Only under protest did Kellett do so. He prepared the ship the way he would for winter: taking all her rigging down below except for the very lowest sections of the mast, shipping the rudder, and caulking all the hatches.

She was recovered and returned to England:
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Resolute_(1850)
Resolute served in the Royal Navy from 1856, never leaving home waters, until she was retired and broken up in 1879.
Quote from: https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/treasures-of-the-white-house-resolute-desk
This table was made from her timbers when she was broken up, and is presented by the Queen of Great Britain & Ireland, to the President of the United States, as a memorial of the courtesy and loving kindness which dictated the offer of the gift of the "Resolute'."



OK, Kevin - what is the whole story? ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 07, 2017, 10:45:01 pm
Very interesting.
Thanks a lot, Kevin.


It looks like we misinterpreted the implications of:
Keep an eye on those 2100 lbs of tomato. And by the way, did anyone see bottles of mercury (Hg) come on board? It could be for an 'artificial horizon' (navigation) or to fill barometers. In many published accounts from British ships one finds that someone ends up doing something silly with it - like boiling it on the cabin stove - which is why today our President sits at a desk made out of the HMS Resolute.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 08, 2017, 05:59:56 pm
What an interesting story! Most fascinating. Looks like chemical poisoning didn't do many favours for arctic exploration - there is a theory that old fashioned tins led to problems for the Franklin crew with lead poisoning. And as their disappearance led to HMS Resolute setting off it seems that chemistry abuse has a lot to answer for.  ;)

And given the tin problem - I see why you say 'watch out for the 2100 lb of tomatoes', Kevin. I thought of the tins simply exploding - but those would be the safer cans since you could not eat what came out of them...the rest were probably a ticking time bomb!  :o

Amazing story.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 08, 2017, 06:03:29 pm
Many thanks to coldcounter of PenguinWatch for popping me a note about this short video about Dragon Scale sea ice from Australia Broadcasting:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-06/scientists-study-rare-dragon-ice-in-antarctica/8503464

This strange sea ice formation has not been seen since 2007.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 08, 2017, 06:13:09 pm
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 08, 2017, 06:15:47 pm
8)

Ditto!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 08, 2017, 06:35:16 pm
There was an article on CBC this morning about a study done by two universities in the US. (Maybe Yale and University of California.) Anyway, the researchers found that people who use Facebook or other social media live longer and more productive lives. Apparently, even though the connections are virtual, having people who support you, and having people to support, sharing accomplishments, taking an interest in each other's lives etc is very beneficial.

"Ah ha!" I shouted, "The sneaky people running OW set up a chat forum just so that we would live longer and be more productive and so we would transcribe more WRs."  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 08, 2017, 07:03:47 pm
Sh!!!
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on May 08, 2017, 08:07:23 pm
Are they sure that using Facebook actually helps you live longer?  Or does it just feel like it's longer?

Anyway that would be good news if Facebook does help increase your lifespan as it would go some way to compensating for all the time I've wasted on Facebook.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 08, 2017, 08:10:33 pm
I'm not a fan of Facebook either, but I have spent very little time on it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 08, 2017, 08:49:18 pm
I'm not a fan of Facebook either, but I have spent very little time on it.

I've never used Facebook, Twitter, Shapchat, Instagram etc etc. I guess that means I don't have much time left...  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 08, 2017, 08:49:53 pm
Are they sure that using Facebook actually helps you live longer?  Or does it just feel like it's longer?

Anyway that would be good news if Facebook does help increase your lifespan as it would go some way to compensating for all the time I've wasted on Facebook.  :(

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on May 09, 2017, 05:14:52 pm
... Apparently, even though the connections are virtual, having people who support you, and having people to support, sharing accomplishments, taking an interest in each other's lives etc is very beneficial.

...

Sounds like it doesn't have to be Facebook, Twitter, etc. to get the benefits - this forum and Skype should do fine!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on May 10, 2017, 12:51:50 pm
I've just renewed my passport, and the new one has a distinctly nautical theme.  The security features include a picture of Gypsy Moth IV, a holographic ship's wheel, and an image of a sextant.  Has someone from OW infiltrated the UK Passport Office?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on May 10, 2017, 06:27:52 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on May 10, 2017, 07:35:04 pm
I do hope so.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 10, 2017, 09:57:28 pm
Hehehe! I hope so too  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 12, 2017, 07:28:37 pm
Apparently a major cyber attack is sweeping across the world.  >:( Knowing that my btinternet address has been a problem in the past please do not open any emails purporting to come from me, they should be deleted straightaway.   :-[

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on May 12, 2017, 11:17:48 pm
Yeah, I just read about a "ransomware" attack that has spread to 74 countries. We have become too dependent on computer technology. They put cyber locks on important files and you have to pay to regain access to them. They go after hospitals and other vital services where victims are likely to pay the ransom ... using bitcoin!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 13, 2017, 12:59:57 am
I don't think I'd heard of bitcoin until today  :-\ I know I wish it didn't exist!!  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on May 13, 2017, 01:02:05 pm
Now we learn that the organizations that have been compromised by these cyber attacks have been negligent in protecting their computer systems. Microsoft had issued a patch to their Windows operating systems to close the vulnerabilities that have been exploited by this so-called ransomware but many organizations have been too slow to implement it. The irony in all this is that it was supposedly the U.S. National Security Agency that developed the code that the hackers gained access to and modified for their own nefarious purposes. So the spies opened the doors for the criminals.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 13, 2017, 01:27:21 pm
Yes - just caught the news, Craig. They've confirmed that it was patch fixes that had been delayed that allowed the trouble in. There will be some IT offices on red alert today. I certainly would not lay the whole blame at IT's door step. Apparently there's been a lot of work done trying to get the NHS off Windows, but it's not happening properly. To me it is unbelievable that the NHS does not have one proper system to work with.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on May 13, 2017, 03:25:29 pm
It isn't just Windows - it's a very old version of Windows which hasn't been supported with security updates for several years now.  My community's computer adviser (one of my sisters) has been telling us not to use it on any computer connected to the internet, so I can't believe the NHS didn't know it was risky .... :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on May 13, 2017, 06:07:51 pm
Unbelievable - I would think that by now, the general public should be smart enough to at least keep their operating systems and browsers up to date, all the time!
This is precisely why I recommend installing all updates on everything as soon as they are generally available (except for major Windows updates - wait a week or two before installing those, just to make sure)

Otherwise, you just gotta be smart: Don't open attachments or click on links from suspicious emails (if you get one that claims to be from your bank, go the bank's website in a different tab and login there instead), use HTTPS Everywhere (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS_Everywhere), and don't use stupid passwords (I have several that are gibberish strings of letters and numbers, each of which I memorized by brute force).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on May 13, 2017, 08:05:12 pm
The NHS problem, as I partly understand it, was that some equipment was computer controlled and run by customised software which ran on Windows XP - I remember it fondly. So, when new versions came out (every couple of years) they would have had to get the software (expensively) updated which undoubtedly would have put the equipment out of use for a time while they got the bugs out of it. So, they put it off which wasn't too bad while Microsoft supported XP. Then, the equipment was getting older but still serviceable but was it worth paying for it to be updated and, of course, the newer equipment ran on something else. Sometimes they didn't upgrade at all, sometimes they did a messy patch-in but it left the system vulnerable to malware .

The big problem with customised medical software is that downtime for more than a few hours impacts on patients. Customised software allows you to run data intensive programs on smaller computers, a big advantage when extra processing capacity or memory was fiendishly expensive. I remember pointing out to a policeman that the program for a 'cold case' forensic examnation was stored on and processed by a very old, temperamental computer and no, the data had to be run through the computer program which generated it because it also stored the data formatting and the stuff on the disc was pretty well garbage unless you had the program. We finally located a working one in the Netherlands which they were about to shut down but they agreed not to scrap it until the defence team forensic people had looked at the output from the original study of the specimens.

As usual, it all comes down to money and priorities.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 13, 2017, 11:26:52 pm
Very interesting. Thank you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on May 14, 2017, 01:07:09 pm
Happy Mother's Day!

(http://pre03.deviantart.net/8ad4/th/pre/i/2015/290/b/8/my_everything_by_nobody47-d9d5v05.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 14, 2017, 04:56:18 pm
Unbelievable - I would think that by now, the general public should be smart enough to at least keep their operating systems and browsers up to date, all the time!
This is precisely why I recommend installing all updates on everything as soon as they are generally available (except for major Windows updates - wait a week or two before installing those, just to make sure)

Otherwise, you just gotta be smart: Don't open attachments or click on links from suspicious emails (if you get one that claims to be from your bank, go the bank's website in a different tab and login there instead), use HTTPS Everywhere (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS_Everywhere), and don't use stupid passwords (I have several that are gibberish strings of letters and numbers, each of which I memorized by brute force).

The other thing that is very very important is to do regular backups.  I have two two terabyte external hard drives. They measure 15 x 81/2 x 21/2 cm, so they fill fit in a back safety deposit box. I keep one of these at home and one in the bank. Every so often I swap them. Depending on what's going on with my projects, I back up my PC onto the hard drive. That's usually every two or three months. The drives are large enough to hold several backups. And, every so often, say once or twice a year, I swap the drives. As soon as the one comes from the bank, I remove one or two of the oldest backups and do a new one.

I have a free backup program that is very good and it is relatively easy to use. (It would be no trouble for any of you OW types, although a novice would have to think a bit to use it.)

You might think this is overkill, but trust me it is not. You would be surprised by how much of your life is stored on your computer. About a dozen years ago, two people broke into my house in order to steal things. (I was not at home.) They set the house on fire and left. At the time, I did not have a home computer, using them all day at work was enough. However, I did learn several things:

Luckily for me, all my slides and negatives were stored in plastic tubs, and they were in a cupboard in the room that was least damaged by smoke and heat. (The fire chief said that the temperature in one room was over 900F.) Since the fire, all my slides and negatives (and music CDs and movie DVDs)have been scanned and the digital copies are backed up and stored in a bank vault. And nothing, nothing, is stored in cardboard boxes except empty canning jars and bottles. As Joni Mitchell said:

Quote
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
'Till it's gone
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 14, 2017, 08:13:51 pm
Oh my Michael - what a horrid horrid experience!  :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 14, 2017, 10:09:37 pm
Happy Mother's Day!

(http://pre03.deviantart.net/8ad4/th/pre/i/2015/290/b/8/my_everything_by_nobody47-d9d5v05.png)

Awwww - that's very sweet hanibal :D :D :D

We had Mother's day back in March - I wish I had posted this then...but here it is for your mother's day. I suspect that the inspiration for this might be obvious too  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/26udUIx.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 14, 2017, 10:11:16 pm
Oh my Michael - what a horrid horrid experience!  :'( :'( :'(
  A little bit yes but mostly no. I did discover many wonderful and very kind and helpful people. I was a board member for Habitat for Humanity Yukon (HFHY), so the irony of having someone, working to house people, should lose his own house was very newsworthy. I was interviewed extensively by the newspapers and for an hour long program on the radio. My insurance coverage was great, and the insurance adjuster handling my case was wonderful. The contractor who won the contract to rebuild my house was excellent, and various suppliers with whom I worked through HFHY went out of their way to be helpful. I lost two pieces of original art, but that was because of where they were in the house (the 900 degree F room). All my slides and negatives were fine. Framed family photos were just re-printed and re-framed. Clothes, furniture, electronics etc were all replaceable and replaced. In all, I was very lucky, and I was overwhelmed by the support I got from the community. For all those reasons, it turned out to be very life affirming and positive. That said, don't try it yourself, just take my word for it. (And make backups, store things properly and have good insurance!)   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 14, 2017, 10:18:11 pm
It's cheering to know how supportive people can be. I promise to do my best not to get into the same pickle. And the insurances are all up and running. Hurrah!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 15, 2017, 04:55:16 pm
Protecting Your Digital Life in 8 Easy Steps (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/technology/personaltech/encryption-privacy.html?emc=edit_nn_20170515&nl=morning-briefing&nlid=79267039&te=1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 16, 2017, 07:20:08 pm
Just a bit of Antarctic fun...check the amazing striations in this berg (https://talk.penguinwatch.org/?_ga=2.169951207.655484078.1494957308-2036387653.1458062099#/subjects/APZ000de7i)

(http://i.imgur.com/xjtg4gr.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 20, 2017, 04:26:42 am
The Antarctica Series
Four virtual-reality films that take you on, above and below the Antarctic ice.
(https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/climate/antarctica-virtual-reality.html?emc=edit_nn_20170518&nl=morning-briefing&nlid=79267039&te=1)

and

Antarctic Dispatches (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/18/climate/antarctica-ice-melt-climate-change.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 20, 2017, 12:16:12 pm
Fantastic information and videos Randi   :D I feel like putting a picture of the Larsen C ice shelf split on the coffee machine at work which they leave on over the weekend and drives me nuts  >:(

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 20, 2017, 04:55:37 pm
Amazing videos. I watched the first one with my first cup of tea.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 21, 2017, 11:24:01 am
Hello all you wonderful computer-techno-able-shipmates. I'm looking for advice on converting a wlmp file (Windows Movie Maker) to something that can work on Youtube or Vimeo  Any help or 'warnings against' gratefully received. I've collected a load of penguin pictures and want to be able to post it.

Thanks ever so!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on May 21, 2017, 02:18:38 pm
Did a bit of quick Googling, found the following:

Quote
The WLMP file is not a video file so you can't convert WLMP to MP4 with a regular video converter. You have to open it with the software that created WLMP files - Windows (Live) Movie Maker. Generally, you can simply export WLMP to MP4 with Windows (Live) Movie Maker.

Quote
Save WLMP File as WMV
Run Windows Movie Maker, and then click "File" -> "Open Project" to open your .wlmp file. After that, click "File -> Save movie" to save WLMP project file as WMV or MP4 video format (Note: This output format is only available playback in Windows Live Movie Maker).

(Windows Movie Maker used to be called "Windows Live Movie Maker")

Sounds to me like that should be enough, as YouTube also supports WMV videos, but I don't know much about this topic, so I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 21, 2017, 06:55:46 pm
Thanks so much hanibal - I'll give that a go :D

Anyone got any ideas about why my number lock keeps turning itself off please? Tried internet advice fix by adjusting keyboard initializer in registry, but no luck :( 
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 21, 2017, 07:16:54 pm
Does it turn off in the middle of things (and if so, what are you doing) or only when you reboot/cycle power?

What computer and OS?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 21, 2017, 07:42:01 pm
Oh I am such a drip! Thanks Randi - The little thing that lights up for number lock on my desktop is not the same as on the laptop. Doh! I just never really looked at them before. It's fine. It was something linked to bluetooth (you can run a computer on bluetooth - don't answer that - I don't care to know about that as I'd never do it).

Time to take a break perhaps!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 22, 2017, 02:36:31 am
No one lives on this remote Pacific island ? but it?s covered in 38 million pieces of our trash (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/16/no-one-lives-on-this-remote-pacific-island-but-its-covered-in-38-million-pieces-of-our-trash/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 22, 2017, 09:31:39 pm
No one lives on this remote Pacific island ? but it?s covered in 38 million pieces of our trash (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/16/no-one-lives-on-this-remote-pacific-island-but-its-covered-in-38-million-pieces-of-our-trash/)
:'( :'( :'(

Very interesting focus on microplastic poisoning on the BBC's Countryfile yesterday. Even focused on the poisoning caused by the loss of fibres from man-made fleece products (and so many of us use those products these days).  And the amount of plastic trash, on our country's beaches, of any size is dramatic. They showed many dead albatross chicks who starve to death because they end up being fed with shiny plastic items rather than food. It included plastic combs and small plastic toys and so much else. It made me very sad :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 23, 2017, 03:07:20 am
Thanks to global warming, Antarctica is beginning to turn green (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/18/thanks-to-global-warming-antarctica-is-starting-to-turn-green/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 23, 2017, 01:21:22 pm
Thanks to global warming, Antarctica is beginning to turn green (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/18/thanks-to-global-warming-antarctica-is-starting-to-turn-green/)

Sigh!! :( :( :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 25, 2017, 12:14:34 am
Starting tomorrow, Thursday, I will be with 100 other people marching for the next four days to the Kinder Morgan terminal at the foot of Burnaby Mountain. This march is to protest the expansion of the Kinder Morgan pipeline into Burnaby (part of Greater Vancouver) and bordering on the shores of Burrard Inlet. We will be marching 25-30 km each day. We will take the ferry from the island to the mainland, so swimming is not required.  ;)

You can see some of the reasons for our march, Walk4SalishSea, in this excellent presentation (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/kinder-morgan-trans-mountain-pipeline-bc-coast/article35043172/) from the Globe and Mail. Scroll down to see the various pictures, maps and explanations.

Wish me and my feet luck!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 25, 2017, 12:57:42 am
Good work / Good luck!

I am confident that you are not a tenderfoot ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on May 25, 2017, 01:31:45 am
Wish me and my feet luck!!!

Good Luck.
A worthy cause.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on May 25, 2017, 02:59:36 am
Wish me and my feet luck!!!

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on May 25, 2017, 03:29:44 am
(https://d1hekt5vpuuw9b.cloudfront.net/assets/article/c8caae8968d751cccb0357ffda353e63_fruity-foot-bath-easy-580x326_featuredImage.jpg)

(http://amyablemx.tracyradams.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/foot-massage-740x420.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on May 25, 2017, 06:12:27 am
Good luck and just to spur you on

https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandgas/140219/oil-eating-bacteria-struggles-cold-temperatures-raises-dangers-deepwater-disaster-arctic-circle/

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on May 25, 2017, 08:40:42 am
Good Luck, Michael!

Given your devotion to OW, I'm sure you won't have any problems with the march.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hurlock on May 25, 2017, 09:02:37 am
Good Luck
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on May 25, 2017, 12:41:20 pm
Good marching, Michael - it sounds a very good cause.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 25, 2017, 07:16:44 pm
Good luck, firm feet, and great success to you Michael  :D
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Post by: Thursday Next on May 25, 2017, 08:12:18 pm
Good luck Michael!
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Post by: jil on May 25, 2017, 08:16:02 pm
Michael, wishing you and your fellow marchers great success!
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Post by: AvastMH on May 28, 2017, 12:37:18 pm
Just setting up a computer and avoiding the stifling heat outside so having a treat and watching the 1956 version of Moby Dick. It's only just started - it was great seeing thee dock at New Bedford :D
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Post by: mapurves on May 29, 2017, 07:33:35 pm
Michael, wishing you and your fellow marchers great success!

Well, we did it!  We had 101 people signed up to do the entire march, and more joined us along the way. We know our march was a success because we had four armed RCMP undercover officers infiltrate our group and taking photos of each of us. When they were discovered, some of the marchers could see the outlines of pistols under their T-shirts, our leader stopped the march and we refused to leave until they came forward. He explained to them that the march was drug, alcohol and weapons free. They had not asked for nor received permission to march with us, nor were they invited. They did not respect the rules of the march by carrying weapons. They were told we could not stop them from following us, but they had to remain 100 metres behind the walk marshal who walked at the back of our march. The police said they were here for our "safety", but they were told that their carrying weapons made us less safe. We had first aid people, support vehicles with extra food, water and first aid supplies. We had permission from every municipality and First Nation along our route to march on the route we designated. And so on. The negotiations lasted at least half an hour (I was near the back and couldn't hear, but we were given a detailed briefing at the end of the day), and when the police realized we wouldn't move until they left, and that our photographers and videographers had images of them and their weapons and we were prepared to post them online and notify the media if they wouldn't leave, then they left. Mind you, we were followed by them and by police in unmarked police cars for much of the journey.

We had marchers from all the usual places: Vancouver, Victoria, Nanaimo, the Gulf Islands. We had people from the San Juan Islands, Port Angeles, Port Townsend, Seattle and Portland. We had people from Montreal and Toronto. We had one person from Turino, Italy and two from the Netherlands. There was a man with his seven year-old boy who marched the entire way. I may not have been the oldest, but certainly I was one of the oldest.

The people from Saltspring Island made 78 large orca silhouettes, one for each of the surviving southern resident orcas. The silhouettes were mounted on hockey sticks to be held aloft, and the name and vital stats of the orca represented were listed on the stick. There was a huge inflatable orca filled with helium.

When we marched on the final day, the City of Vancouver gave us a six person motorcycle police escort, and allowed us to use all three northbound lanes on Commercial Drive and all three lanes eastbound on Hastings. (10 km of traffic tie-ups.)

We had First Nations drummers from several of the local nations in front drumming us forward, with various protocol ceremonies held in the middle of the street at various points (eg. when we left the traditional lands of the Musqueam and entered the lands of the Tsleil-Watuth, etc.)

When we marched off the ferry, we had drums and placards and orcas, crabs, octopus, oyster catchers (birds) kelp and other sea life representations leading the way.

We stayed one night in the Ladner United Church. The congregation provided a wonderful supper and breakfast. One of the parishioners donated $1,000 to cover the cost of food. There were four nurses giving foot care, (massages, baths and blister treatments). There were showers and lots of room for sleeping. We were blessed.

It was all very worthwhile, and we were a tired but determined group at the end of each day. (Walking slowly on hot pavement in the sun with lots of standing gets quite tiring by the end of the day.) We were up at 6:00 each morning, and we were on our feet for much of the day, finishing around 5:00 PM each day, but 6:00 on the longest day. When we finally met the other supporting groups at Grandview Park in Vancouver and we saw the 78 orcas for the first time, and the hundreds of supporters with their banners and drums, we knew we had made a statement. It was amazing how energetic we became just from seeing all the support. My son joined me, as did my wife. She carried Orca L-109 (https://whalemuseum.org/products/l-109-takoda), Takoda for the walk to the Kinder Morgan terminal. (She couldn't do the first three days.)

Here is an article (http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/trans-mountain-pipeline-foes-to-walk-to-burnaby-from-victoria-1.20185339) that came out on the day of the march, and one from CBC  (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/4-day-anti-kinder-morgan-march-1.4135412)at the end. You can see me in the second video - it's only 8 seconds long, so look carefully!  ;D

There are other images here (https://www.google.ca/search?q=Walk4SalishSea&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZoJHa3JXUAhVLiFQKHfvfD0gQsAQILA&biw=1600&bih=799).

Ya-how! (people working together).

PS. You would think after all that the boss wouldn't make me go to the gym this morning, but she did. And Toby the Cat has demanded and had two walks already this morning. Where is the love???

PPS Now can I go look for arctic ice????  ;D
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Post by: Randi on May 29, 2017, 07:48:14 pm
(https://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/whale.gif)
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Post by: studentforever on May 29, 2017, 07:57:30 pm
Sounds as if you had fun as well as sore feet. Well done to you all.
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Post by: Randi on May 29, 2017, 08:15:57 pm
PS. You would think after all that the boss wouldn't make me go to the gym this morning, but she did. And Toby the Cat has demanded and had two walks already this morning. Where is the love???
They do it because they love you and they want to keep you working on Old Weather, um, I mean, healthy :-*

PPS Now can I go look for arctic ice????  ;D
Yes! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on May 29, 2017, 08:16:27 pm
Oh my goodness Michael. How heroic. Well done to you all. And if your feet felt done in and tired...all that lost energy for you allows this happy orca to do ...

(http://i.imgur.com/79IrTVv.png)


                                                  that  :D :D :D

I hope that you all win the day  :) :-* :)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on May 29, 2017, 08:55:33 pm
Well done old chap.  :)
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Post by: mapurves on May 29, 2017, 08:57:10 pm
Thank you all. Just working thru heavy ice off Bald Head, Siberia.  :) :) :)
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Post by: Thursday Next on May 29, 2017, 08:58:37 pm
Well done, Michael!
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Post by: Randi on May 29, 2017, 09:02:50 pm
Great orca picture, Joan!
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Post by: Bob on May 29, 2017, 10:12:09 pm
Well, we did it!

Well done, for a great cause!   8)
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Post by: AvastMH on May 29, 2017, 10:41:23 pm
Thank you all. Just working thru heavy ice off Bald Head, Siberia.  :) :) :)

That sounds like a good reason to buy a toupee, or a crash helmet - heavy ice on a bald head is no laughing matter  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on May 29, 2017, 10:55:53 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on May 30, 2017, 08:03:04 am
Some nice pics at
https://cosmosmagazine dot com/geoscience/capturing-the-earth-as-art
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Post by: Caro on May 30, 2017, 09:10:30 am
Well done Michael! Proud of you.  :)
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Post by: Dean on May 30, 2017, 12:10:03 pm
Congratulations on a feat (feet?! ;)) well done. Always important to support what you believe in!
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Post by: Helen J on May 30, 2017, 03:38:17 pm
Well done, Michael - sounds like you all made quite an impact.  I hope people are listening to you.
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Post by: Hanibal94 on May 30, 2017, 04:44:03 pm
Well done Michael! Great Job!
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Post by: mapurves on May 30, 2017, 05:39:42 pm
Thank you, one and all. We may have a new provincial government in a few days that is committed either to stopping this pipeline or tying it up in so much bureaucratic red tape that it is stalled forever.

There are lots of images here (https://www.google.ca/search?q=Walk4SalishSea&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjyqanx_5fUAhVJxVQKHRtTAx0QsAQIPQ&biw=1600&bih=799#imgrc=XCi8nYJJjLfvSM:). I really liked the 78 orca signs, each with the name, number and other data written on the stick, one for each of the 78 surviving Southern Resident orcas. There were more orca signs than that, but those 78 were very special and inspiring, as were the signs listing the senior matriarch of the three pods: J; K; and L, along with some of their offspring.

In this particular photo (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA70BljVoAAOTI4.jpg) you can see the name etc of the orca, Rainshadow K12, on the stick, as well as some of the offspring on the sign near the back. Also, just the front of the "pipeline" on the left. It was about 30-40 feet long and had a big knot in the middle. It was mounted on a "trestle" of steel rods. The sculptor wanted it to be carried the entire way (10 km) on Sunday but it was too heavy for the 20 people carrying it, and they had to mount it on bicycles. It was a struggle pushing it up the steep hills, and even more of a struggle trying to slow it down on the other side.   ;D
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Post by: jil on May 30, 2017, 05:47:10 pm
Michael, more power to your elbow feet!

[In case this is just a British phrase - here's (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/more-power-to-your-elbow) an explanation]
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Post by: mapurves on May 30, 2017, 05:48:20 pm
Michael, more power to your elbow feet!

[In case this is just a British phrase - here's (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/more-power-to-your-elbow) an explanation]

I love it. I've never heard that expression before!  :) :) :)
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Post by: AvastMH on May 30, 2017, 06:05:57 pm
Great pictures Michael. I love that the orca families are represented, brings the whole thing much loser to home :D And it was great to see you all getting time together off your feet as well as on them :D
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Post by: mapurves on May 30, 2017, 06:38:27 pm
Great pictures Michael. I love that the orca families are represented, brings the whole thing much loser to home :D And it was great to see you all getting time together off your feet as well as on them :D

We were always happy for our ten minute mid-morning and mid-afternoon sit down. A chance to grab a snack from our packs. The tough choice was: sit on a bench/rock/log in the sun; or, sit on the grass in the shade? We always had a break with at least a little bit of shade, but not all stops had sitting places in the shade. (It is hard sitting on flat ground after walking for several hours.) ;D Our lunch stops always had shade, too. It was hardest getting up after sitting for the hour lunch break, but once we walked the first 50-100 metres all the kinks and stiffness were gone, the drums were beating, the flags were flying and we were off and marching.  :)
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Post by: AvastMH on May 30, 2017, 07:50:34 pm
Did a bit of quick Googling, found the following:

Quote
The WLMP file is not a video file so you can't convert WLMP to MP4 with a regular video converter. You have to open it with the software that created WLMP files - Windows (Live) Movie Maker. Generally, you can simply export WLMP to MP4 with Windows (Live) Movie Maker.

Quote
Save WLMP File as WMV
Run Windows Movie Maker, and then click "File" -> "Open Project" to open your .wlmp file. After that, click "File -> Save movie" to save WLMP project file as WMV or MP4 video format (Note: This output format is only available playback in Windows Live Movie Maker).

(Windows Movie Maker used to be called "Windows Live Movie Maker")

Sounds to me like that should be enough, as YouTube also supports WMV videos, but I don't know much about this topic, so I could be wrong.

Thanks hanibal - I did it!!  ;D ;D ;D Feels a bit like producing gold by alchemy, but here's the evidence - sorry about the odd picture 'jumping': https://www.youtube.com/embed/xD5OC6rWaLc

The idea was to show a very lazy seal having a nice day pinning an ice floe down with the added fun of seeing the penguins wandering about their next sites. It's a place we call 'Egg_Rock'. We know where it is because there's a reflection of Mount Luigi in the water. It's on Goudier Island at the opposite end to the Penguin Post Office (penguins send a lot of mail) at Port Lockroy.  :D

Thanks again!!  ;D
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Post by: mapurves on May 30, 2017, 08:37:25 pm
 :) :) :) :) :)
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Post by: Thursday Next on May 30, 2017, 08:58:48 pm
Some nice pics at
https://cosmosmagazine dot com/geoscience/capturing-the-earth-as-art

Fantastic - especially the one of Australia  :)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on May 30, 2017, 09:12:01 pm
Have also flown a glider from Stonefield SA via Burra to Peterborough and back to Burra.
The pic does not show all the flight area but it cut roughly SW to NE on that pic.
Looks good at 10-12000 ft but not as good as those pics.

Also have driven through that area. Sure looks different from ground level.
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Post by: AvastMH on May 30, 2017, 10:27:03 pm
Great pictures Michael. I love that the orca families are represented, brings the whole thing much loser to home :D And it was great to see you all getting time together off your feet as well as on them :D

We were always happy for our ten minute mid-morning and mid-afternoon sit down. A chance to grab a snack from our packs. The tough choice was: sit on a bench/rock/log in the sun; or, sit on the grass in the shade? We always had a break with at least a little bit of shade, but not all stops had sitting places in the shade. (It is hard sitting on flat ground after walking for several hours.) ;D Our lunch stops always had shade, too. It was hardest getting up after sitting for the hour lunch break, but once we walked the first 50-100 metres all the kinks and stiffness were gone, the drums were beating, the flags were flying and we were off and marching.  :)

You do get stiff when you stop - but then you get stiff if you don't - a nice shapely bench in the shade is the best for a rest - but I doubt it would have been easy to provide that for so many of you :D
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Post by: AvastMH on May 30, 2017, 10:28:00 pm
Have also flown a glider from Stonefield SA via Burra to Peterborough and back to Burra.
The pic does not show all the flight area but it cut roughly SW to NE on that pic.
Looks good at 10-12000 ft but not as good as those pics.

Also have driven through that area. Sure looks different from ground level.

Wish I had been able to do my geography studies in this way - NASA fly past instead of a dry and dusty book  ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on May 30, 2017, 11:31:37 pm
Thanks to coldcounter on PW for the latest atmospheric news. And it turns out that the planet could die laughing...  :-[ :-\ :o

http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-05-30/arctic-peatland-could-release-greenhouse-gas-as-permafrost-thaws/8569010
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Post by: Thursday Next on May 31, 2017, 08:15:23 pm
And what with the news that Trump is likely to pull the US out of the Paris climate accord ...  :'(
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Post by: Caro on June 01, 2017, 03:14:30 pm
Happy birthday Helen!

 :) :-*
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Post by: Helen J on June 01, 2017, 03:15:56 pm
Thank you Caro - I am of course celebrating with a bit of editing!
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Post by: Randi on June 01, 2017, 03:31:27 pm
Happy Birthday
to
Helen J


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Devil%27s_food_cake.jpg)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Angel_food_cake_with_strawberries_%284738859336%29.jpg)
Devil's food cake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_food_cake)
and
Angel food cake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_food_cake)
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Post by: Helen J on June 01, 2017, 04:34:36 pm
That looks an excellent combination!
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Post by: Hanibal94 on June 01, 2017, 05:22:58 pm
Happy Birthday, Helen, and enjoy your cakes!
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Post by: mapurves on June 01, 2017, 05:44:43 pm
Happy Birthday, Helen!!!

May you enjoy many more!
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Post by: Helen J on June 01, 2017, 06:06:28 pm
Thank you, Michael - I'm going to do my best to do so!
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Post by: AvastMH on June 01, 2017, 07:46:59 pm
A very happy birthday Helen!  I hope you enjoy both of Randi's cake offerings  ;D ;D ;D

Here's how Randi got the angel cake food flown in for today for you...
(http://i.imgur.com/uA4giI9.png)
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: jil on June 01, 2017, 08:00:25 pm
 ;D
Happy Birthday, Helen!
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Post by: Thursday Next on June 01, 2017, 08:48:26 pm
Happy Birthday, Helen!
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Post by: Dean on June 02, 2017, 12:07:22 am
Happy Birthday Helen!!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/Pe4VikM.jpg)
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Post by: Randi on June 02, 2017, 03:58:29 am
Antarctica?s Larsen C ice shelf is within days of completely cracking (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-ticker/antarctica-larsen-c-ice-shelf-cracking?tgt=nr)
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Post by: Helen J on June 02, 2017, 11:51:33 am
Thank you all for your greetings - and all the cakes.  How did you know?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 02, 2017, 06:18:49 pm
There's a special little birthday birdie that tells us ;) ;D  Hope you had a good day Helen  :D
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Post by: AvastMH on June 02, 2017, 06:25:25 pm
Antarctica?s Larsen C ice shelf is within days of completely cracking (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-ticker/antarctica-larsen-c-ice-shelf-cracking?tgt=nr)

I knew it was speeding up. Edyflwr on PW sent me a CNN report based on the report above. The speed of the end is unthinkable. Perhaps we could export it to America when it finally calves?   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 02, 2017, 11:17:43 pm
Just think how much Scotch you would need for that size ice cube.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 03, 2017, 12:02:19 am
Is there a glass big enough though?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 03, 2017, 10:45:44 pm
Wife and I are 'Migrating North with the Grey Nomads'

Hopefully back in a couple of months.
Will watch the forum and do what WRs I can fit in.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 04, 2017, 01:16:15 am
Happy travels Grey Nomads!!  It's better than creaking away in the cold damp of winter I should think :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on June 04, 2017, 01:46:21 am
Wife and I are 'Migrating North with the Grey Nomads'

Hopefully back in a couple of months.
Will watch the forum and do what WRs I can fit in.

Have fun, Stuart. I look forward to a chat and some photos when you return. This time next week we will be heading south to visit daughter, son-in-law and grandson in California for a month. Just mere steps away from Mark Zuckerberg and his Facebook campus. Still not a user though...  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 04, 2017, 08:15:08 am
See you later, Stuart.  :)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 04, 2017, 11:13:17 am
Sorry Caro it will not be permanent.

Joan ,do you have a Prof Cox and Prof Mahli working for you?
Just watched The Tipping Point on the Amazon rain forest. Good show.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 04, 2017, 12:26:22 pm
Hi Stuart! :D

Half yes - Prof Cox is not at Oxford, but Yadvinder works a few yards down the corridor from me. I know of Greg Asner - I think he's lectured with us before. Yadvinder is a powerhouse. He never stops - does great work and has had it recognized by receiving a Fellowship of the Royal Society recently. He is head of the Ecosystems Lab at the Environmental Change Institute. He's got plenty of experiments going on across the tropics (http://www.eci.ox.ac.uk/people/ymalhi.html). I'm a lucky girl to be working with such an amazing bunch of people.

One of his students (Anabel Cardoso) set up the recent Elephant Zooniverse project as part of her studies of African Megafauna.

I was just looking for the programme that you've watched - found a snippet. I'll have to track the whole thing. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on June 04, 2017, 07:51:08 pm
Wife and I are 'Migrating North with the Grey Nomads'

Hopefully back in a couple of months.
Will watch the forum and do what WRs I can fit in.

Fair winds, calm seas, and whatever else it takes to make your trip safe, relaxing, and wonderfilled!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 05, 2017, 12:12:48 am
Thanks Dean. 1c last night but great days.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 05, 2017, 05:28:25 pm
This is maybe the weirdest thing I've seen on the web today (barring politics):

(https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/FEF0/production/_96346256_capture2.png)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40155229
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 06, 2017, 09:15:34 pm
Amazing sang-froid from the mower-man  :o  Probably not worth putting the grass cuttings into a neat pile with that tornado about to drop in  :o


I found an interesting front page on the Oxford University website just now. A freshly opened project to preserve World War 1 memorabilia:

https://oxreach.hubbub.net/p/lestweforget/?ref=35196

I'm glad to see it's in the very safe hands of Stuart Lee who was/is part of the English Faculty with a specialism in Online usage.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 07, 2017, 10:51:13 pm
Thanks Dean. 1c last night but great days.

Getting warmer Stuart?  I noticed you were on line - sheltering from the heat of northern Oz? :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 08, 2017, 12:37:26 am
No ice on the windscreen today at Inverell. :)
Goondiwindi tomorrow via Texas
Maybe Miles to day after. Trying to dodge the rain which is due soon in South Qld.
Sydney has had a lot of rain in the last few days.

Max temp so far has been 18c, nice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 08, 2017, 08:41:44 pm
Sounds good Stuart - avoiding rain is always go for older joints :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 08, 2017, 10:49:19 pm
Sounds good Stuart - avoiding rain is always go for older joints :D

Especially metal ones
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on June 09, 2017, 05:54:24 pm
Here's an interesting link (https://gfycat.com/SmoggySlightAmericanratsnake) my son sent me. It shows the monthly changes in the earth's mean temperature.   :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 09, 2017, 08:28:38 pm
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 09, 2017, 08:39:37 pm
Sounds good Stuart - avoiding rain is always go for older joints :D

Especially metal ones

Oh yes! Please don't go rusty Stuart ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 09, 2017, 08:42:50 pm
Here's an interesting link (https://gfycat.com/SmoggySlightAmericanratsnake) my son sent me. It shows the monthly changes in the earth's mean temperature.   :'(

I'll join Randi on this one  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 09, 2017, 11:32:26 pm
A little left field, but whilst Boaty McBoatface seems to have dropped of the forum, in Australia a horse called Horsey McHorseface is rising. The horse won it's first race at Cessnock this week.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 09, 2017, 11:35:13 pm
 ;D ;D ;D

I bet everyone but the owners of the other horses was rooting for him.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 10, 2017, 12:32:44 am
 ;D ;D ;D That's a great story Stuart. I wonder what Thingy McThingface we'll have to entertain us next? :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Danny252 on June 11, 2017, 11:35:29 am
Most of us have probably come across mentions of plenty of ships in the logs that sailed to San Francisco - but did any of them end up under San Francisco?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/05/map-ships-buried-san-francisco/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 11, 2017, 11:44:53 am
That is absolutely amazing - I simply never would have guessed that a ship would just get buried into the ground, though I think I did come up with something like that once. But dozens of them...what a hoot  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on June 11, 2017, 12:17:55 pm
What a find!  I'll go and explore when I'm there shortly, though I don't suppose there will be anything to see above ground. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 11, 2017, 07:25:41 pm
Thanks, Danny. That was an interesting article.

Janet and HatterJack also had some discussion about sunken ships in San Francisco, but mainly a bit further south, in the Hunters Point / Candlestick Point area: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3903.msg114939#msg114939
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 12, 2017, 04:11:29 pm
I just read: It's Hug a Climate Scientist Day. Just remember: no surprise hugs!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 12, 2017, 04:52:46 pm
To Philip and Kevin:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/23/32/cd2332e74dbb7bf04cbc1b6366cefa8c--internet-hug-internet-friends.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 12, 2017, 05:55:52 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 12, 2017, 06:55:17 pm
What a cool idea! Here's one from me to you two too, Philip and Kevin ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/k9KiSun.png)



Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 13, 2017, 11:32:31 am
Happy birthday Hannibal
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on June 13, 2017, 12:24:07 pm
And many happy returns from me too, Hannibal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 13, 2017, 02:27:06 pm
Happy Birthday
to
Hanibal94



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Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on June 13, 2017, 02:46:44 pm
Have a good day & may you have many more
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 13, 2017, 04:24:31 pm
Happy birthday HANIBAL  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on June 13, 2017, 04:44:18 pm
Happy Birthday, Hanibal! Hope you're having a great day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hurlock on June 13, 2017, 04:56:40 pm
Happy Birthday from me too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 13, 2017, 05:23:19 pm
Happy birthday hanibal! Hope you're having a great day!

(http://i.imgur.com/BcJittG.png)
;D oops! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on June 13, 2017, 06:48:59 pm
Happy Birthday, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on June 14, 2017, 02:56:49 am
Happy Birthday, Hanibal!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on June 14, 2017, 05:28:56 pm
Thanks everybody!

Not really much to say - we didn't do a party or anything yesterday. Just fancy dinner and awesome cake. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kladdkaka) But I enjoyed it a lot!

I only got a few presents, but that's because in our family, only the under-18s get lots of stuff on birthdays and Christmas. With the adults, you only get something if you happen to find something they would definitely like.
We've had this arrangement for a few years now, and IMO, it's brilliant - no need to rush around in December, trying to figure out what to get for everybody. Instead, we can focus on simply enjoying the holiday together!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on June 14, 2017, 06:19:49 pm
That cake sounds excellent!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 14, 2017, 06:35:47 pm
That cake sounds excellent!

It sure does!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 14, 2017, 07:22:06 pm
That cake sounds excellent!

It sure does!

I quite agree - sounds very toothsome :D  (Also - very good idea about the presents - I hold with what you do :D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on June 16, 2017, 12:15:50 am
Happy Birthday, Hannibal!

i have learned:

(http://i.imgur.com/aVXZ1jZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 16, 2017, 04:54:06 pm
Scientists stunned by Antarctic rainfall and a melt area bigger than Texas (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/06/15/scientists-just-documented-a-massive-melt-event-on-the-surface-of-antarctica/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on June 16, 2017, 05:38:06 pm
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 16, 2017, 08:18:19 pm
I'll second Michael  :'( :'( :'(

Still hoping that Larsen C will break off on 4th July if it's going to go at all
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 17, 2017, 12:59:34 am
5th July would do me fine.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 17, 2017, 01:10:52 am
5th July would do me fine.

Ummmm - any reason why Stuart? (I bet I've forgotten an important date  ::)  ;))  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 17, 2017, 04:22:13 am
Mum was one of the first to take advantage of FREE national Health.
(She was under instructions from Dad to hold on till the 5th)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 17, 2017, 04:06:34 pm
Mum was one of the first to take advantage of FREE national Health.
(She was under instructions from Dad to hold on till the 5th)  ;D

That paints such a picture Stuart :D Your poor mum...your glad dad   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 18, 2017, 09:02:04 am
Sooooo, happy Father's Day to all the dads celebrating today.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 18, 2017, 12:08:13 pm
Happy father's day, dads!


(http://i.imgur.com/j2N6gOE.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on June 18, 2017, 07:11:51 pm
 :) Thank you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 18, 2017, 09:21:51 pm
You're very welcome Michael :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 21, 2017, 09:39:24 am
Happy solstice everyone.  :)

(https://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/stonehenge-june-solstice.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on June 21, 2017, 08:42:05 pm
Indeed - well, the nights are drawing in now, downhill to winter from here ...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on June 21, 2017, 08:54:15 pm
Why two-wheeled suitcases rock and fall over (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40346519)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 21, 2017, 09:57:21 pm
I'll second your 'Happy Solstice' Caro  ;D

And now I know why my suitcase falls over and why my laces come undone - thanks hanibal  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 21, 2017, 11:36:20 pm
This is a good demo of weight distribution for caravan towing.

https://youtube.com/embed/fWd8ml9mFMo

From Stuart in Sapphire Qld. 12c to 23c today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 21, 2017, 11:54:26 pm
This is a good demo of weight distribution for caravan towing.

https://youtu (dot) be/fWd8ml9mFMo

From Stuart in Sapphire Qld. 12c to 23c today.

That was a sobering demonstration, Stuart  :D I'll remember that!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on June 22, 2017, 01:20:23 am
This is a good demo of weight distribution for caravan towing.

Fascinatingly simple way to demonstrate the problem, thanks for posting!

There are all kinds of systems that can go horribly wrong when you get the mass on the wrong side of a pivot.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 25, 2017, 07:58:59 pm
Don't forget to celebrate Day of the Seafarer today, will you?

(http://webplus.info/images/wpi.images/h_en_Day_of_the_Seafarer.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 25, 2017, 08:24:53 pm
Their theme this year is "Seafarers Matter"  and they have an interactive quiz (can't imagine why I thought to share the quiz image ;) )
(http://i.imgur.com/z8y2aE9.png)

I didn't do too badly though it wasn't far off being landed as a landlubber:
(http://i.imgur.com/jYysu3S.png?1)
 
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on June 25, 2017, 08:41:50 pm
Couldn't work out how to post the image for my final score, so you'll have to take my word for it - 12 out of 15, making me a Chief Officer.  I would like to say that this reflects my extensive knowledge on the subject, but I think I just made some lucky guesses!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 25, 2017, 09:57:39 pm
Well done you!!  ;D ;D ;D  (I used a screen snip to capture my less worthy results  ;) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on June 25, 2017, 11:52:09 pm
Couldn't work out how to post the image for my final score, so you'll have to take my word for it - 12 out of 15, making me a Chief Officer.  I would like to say that this reflects my extensive knowledge on the subject, but I think I just made some lucky guesses!

Almost caught you with my 11. (Still a Chief Officer.)
The picks of ports lost me points.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 26, 2017, 12:36:02 pm
Couldn't work out how to post the image for my final score, so you'll have to take my word for it - 12 out of 15, making me a Chief Officer.  I would like to say that this reflects my extensive knowledge on the subject, but I think I just made some lucky guesses!

Almost caught you with my 11. (Still a Chief Officer.)
The picks of ports lost me points.  ???
11! Wow! Ah - got lucky on those ports - but had to look very hard for any weeny little clues in the pictures  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on June 26, 2017, 12:53:57 pm
Some guessing involved.  ;)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cp526dUaLmxUlstPA-PMgnr_DuuLAE99OeiFCYsaWt3kdiZ5jA1IPKSMSWlb06O2rVsW2ZeeuVY7EDUEqXn1V6GfkTqMUsRIrjrAmRhkhVjSiaiP5A52O1cUiaPmPRXOBY_iPBUDxfNfUv0rke_oEcaPisNqfCft9vrFn631fPzTP51VT06HJI0WEpSByL0E0QZtHLodaTWkekmzEqafZ6p4yvnM4EYr6qNwmdNQC8JBQyCmMPF7EtM9kc-4etLsSWvyfxBROZn5Oi0RoHSN-X6r67GDLEYTwTIb819zGZmjhBOzb1ZHsFWMH5cBeIQBePk-GTuCeheLl1PTjQ3I4mnAdjVeUEWFSJ-bAgYRGrYMJp1pPessTjLBxklWOdLohbd9OxFsFSfqjHwS-_Z_m9VJ2ymnw4cP7DC3KvO4VoYk2lcR2ebV0GoXFNNuf3dMPPcQcmMtZInDAfe987jPW8BiBtmz0-oHPuVccjfauVB-hUcKbUeKOA_D7IhHxbEfDfXo0aaoaufjdjHig88sspl9r6cV1EpOS0hiPnrbgT1_uSYAatRggZ7w5knzl3KPBrFYCLb-KXnySMGxGTeszuvVol-DNTFL9DQB7AGB7QhWTGEk-bPe-w=w790-h494-no)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on June 26, 2017, 04:37:56 pm
10 out of 15. So I'm also a Chief Officer.

Had to do a bunch of guessing as well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on June 28, 2017, 07:33:32 am
Successful first trip for Boaty McBoatface

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40425996
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 28, 2017, 02:40:34 pm
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_4547.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 29, 2017, 12:50:04 am
10 out of 15. So I'm also a Chief Officer.

Had to do a bunch of guessing as well.

Well done hanibal! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 29, 2017, 12:57:01 am
Successful first trip for Boaty McBoatface

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40425996

Go Boaty!! Way to go McBoatFace ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on June 29, 2017, 04:58:53 pm
Just found out about this today:

Nasty security hole in Skype
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/27/skype_vuln/

The problem affects Skype versions prior to 7.37, on Windows XP, 7, 8 and 10.
To update, open Skype, select "Help" from the top menu and then click on "Check for Updates".

Note: At one point between downloading and installing, you will get a window that says "Make Bing your search engine and MSN your homepage".
Both these options are checked by default, so make sure to uncheck them before proceeding!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on June 29, 2017, 05:15:12 pm
Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on June 29, 2017, 05:19:43 pm
Thanks, Hanibal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on June 29, 2017, 06:05:59 pm
Thanks for the information and warnings hanibal :D

I haven't used Skype for a while and I don't like the number of questions that I was asked this time around which basically try to find out if they could flog me something from Microsoft. Harummmphhhh  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on June 29, 2017, 11:16:04 pm
Thanks, Hanibal.

Ditto!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 01, 2017, 02:15:31 pm
Happy 150th Birthday
Canada




(http://www.balloonboys.com/mt-content/uploads/2017/01/thumbnails/canada-150-for-website_m_300x187.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 01, 2017, 04:04:58 pm
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 01, 2017, 05:49:50 pm
Happy Birthday Canada!

Found these to celebrate :D  :D  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/IIPN7Uc.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 02, 2017, 08:07:43 pm
Need a laugh?
http://www.bbc.com/news/video_and_audio/headlines/40469343/music-loving-dog-upstages-orchestra-in-turkey
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on July 02, 2017, 08:33:45 pm
 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 02, 2017, 09:24:52 pm
 ;D ;D ;D that's one cool pooch
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 05, 2017, 01:49:55 am
Happy 4th of July!

We celebrated Canada Day in the USA, so we're celebrating Independence Day back here in Canada.  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/bRUln25.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 05, 2017, 12:28:49 pm
 ;D ;D ;D  Such a busy day I forgot the 4th - I'll celebrate later today!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 07, 2017, 02:14:07 am
Something to think about...

Quote from: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Kaspersky, a leading global seller of anti-virus software, has been under suspicion for ties to the Kremlin for years, though the recent discovery of a Russian military intelligence unit number stamped on a company certification has raised eybrows about the relationship.

In a post-Snowden era, it's entirely possible that governments and IT companies may have more direct ties than previously thought, said Kenneth Geers, a former NATO expert.

TLDR: If you bought your laptop at Best Buy, you probably use Kaspersky software. U.S. leaders think that's risky.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on July 07, 2017, 08:16:51 pm
Skype backlash: "Worst update ever" (http://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-40526116/skype-backlash-worst-update-ever)

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People are annoyed by this update to the Skype app because it's fixing something that was never broken to begin with.

Fortunately, this seems to only be for the mobile versions of Skype - as far as I can tell, the desktop (i.e. PC) version of Skype does not have such problems.
I hope they don't "rebuild" the desktop version!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 10, 2017, 01:11:07 am
Some long time ago I wondered why Concord, and then others, picked up sand. This, from the Bear (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol093/vol093_017_1.jpg), 13 July 1905:

Quote
Boated of sand for scrubbing decks, oars, gratings, etc.

How prosaic....  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on July 10, 2017, 01:22:55 am
Cheap and effective.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on July 10, 2017, 01:44:02 am
maybe the concord bypassed the time it takes to wear the holystones down to sand and picked it up directly.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 10, 2017, 02:42:26 am
I hope it is for cleaning.
I am reading a story from the Napoleonic wars and they sprinkle sand on the deck before battle to prevent people from slipping in the blood.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 10, 2017, 02:45:07 am
For the Bear up in the Bering Sea, certainly.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 10, 2017, 09:42:26 pm
maybe the concord bypassed the time it takes to wear the holystones down to sand and picked it up directly.  ;D
;D ;D ;D

Sounds like they are getting their buckets and spades mixed up with their buckets and mops - should make some interesting sandcastles though ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 10, 2017, 09:46:25 pm
Skype backlash: "Worst update ever" (http://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-40526116/skype-backlash-worst-update-ever)

Quote
People are annoyed by this update to the Skype app because it's fixing something that was never broken to begin with.

Fortunately, this seems to only be for the mobile versions of Skype - as far as I can tell, the desktop (i.e. PC) version of Skype does not have such problems.
I hope they don't "rebuild" the desktop version!

I couldn't agree more hanibal! What a nightmare. And the idea that kids will obediently turn off the 'where you are' thing is ridiculous. :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on July 11, 2017, 05:31:55 pm
Here's one for Philip, Kevin and any other scientists:

Supercharging Environmental and Climate Change Research (https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewNewsArticle.do?articleId=529)

Quote
IBM invites scientists to apply for grants of supercomputing power through World Community Grid, meteorological data from The Weather Company, and IBM Cloud storage to support their environmental and climate change research projects.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 11, 2017, 06:23:25 pm
Here's one for Philip, Kevin and any other scientists:

Supercharging Environmental and Climate Change Research (https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewNewsArticle.do?articleId=529)

Quote
IBM invites scientists to apply for grants of supercomputing power through World Community Grid, meteorological data from The Weather Company, and IBM Cloud storage to support their environmental and climate change research projects.

Very interesting, especially as they have thrown it wide open rather than cherry pick from the get-go  :-\  Wonder if BOINC will find any changes happening to it as the IBM Cloud grows?  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 12, 2017, 01:37:30 pm
Giant iceberg splits from Antarctic (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40321674)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 12, 2017, 09:22:02 pm
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 12, 2017, 11:07:54 pm
And all they worry about is it being a problem in the shipping lanes?

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(...oh just fetch a bucket - I could fill it with tears over this one. The last two Larsens suffered a complete break up of the remaining ice shelf after their main calving.... I hope it's not a hopeless wish that this one will survive that possibility!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on July 15, 2017, 02:01:58 pm
Ordinarily I wouldn't post about proposals for future work that are still a long way from won, but I think you all deserve to see this comment from an anonymous reviewer (added emphasis mine):

The project is to digitize ... US naval log books and muster rolls, primarily from 1861-79 (but ranging from 1801-1940), in collaboration with the National Archives (delivered through NARA's portal), and to put them into the hugely successful Old Weather citizen-science project for enhancement. The primary interest of that project is historical climatology, but a solid argument is made for the interdisciplinary research value of this content and the ways in which digitization and structured markup/transcription to enable real data processing is wholly transformative and amplifies the possibilities inherent in the manuscript versions.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on July 15, 2017, 02:25:20 pm
Very nice, Kevin! Thanks for telling us.  8)

Please let us know if this proposal is successful or not!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 15, 2017, 04:09:16 pm
I would say "wholly transformative" for the transcribing family too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on July 15, 2017, 04:47:21 pm
Very promising. Thanks Kevin.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on July 15, 2017, 05:14:35 pm
Lovely to be appreciated. Hope all goes well and the new interfaces are user friendly. I think we could be occupied for quite a while if it comes off!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 15, 2017, 05:59:05 pm
The stubborn worry about climate change that just won't go away (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/07/10/the-stubbornly-persistent-idea-about-climate-change-that-just-wont-go-away/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 15, 2017, 11:44:33 pm
Wonderful carrot to have dangling almost within reach  :D  I hope it happens!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 15, 2017, 11:46:28 pm
The stubborn worry about climate change that just won't go away (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/07/10/the-stubbornly-persistent-idea-about-climate-change-that-just-wont-go-away/)

Well that's very sobering news - but perhaps a sign of the planet really biting back?  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on July 17, 2017, 05:37:39 pm
https://twitter.com/TogetherSci/status/886980223211798528

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 17, 2017, 08:37:35 pm
https://twitter.com/TogetherSci/status/886980223211798528

 :)

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on July 19, 2017, 11:40:37 am
Happy birthday Dean

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYSryDg63YEmXVS/giphy.gif)

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on July 19, 2017, 12:39:44 pm
Happy birthday, Dean - may your voyage through the next year be smooth!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on July 19, 2017, 05:41:21 pm
Happy Birthday, Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on July 19, 2017, 07:28:05 pm
Happy Birthday, Dean!



I am going on vacation until August 12th, and will not be able to update the following until then:

- Log Size guestimations
- OW Rankings
- The weekly Art + OW joke in the Dockside Gallery

I will still be able to access the forum from time to time, though, as I am taking a small laptop that I only use for travel
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on July 19, 2017, 07:52:38 pm
Many Happy Returns, Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 19, 2017, 08:32:18 pm
A very happy birthday to you Dean! Fair winds and following seas and cake and icing and candles and balloons and...  ;D ;D ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/yU76Cen.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hurlock on July 19, 2017, 10:00:15 pm
Happy Birthday
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 19, 2017, 10:46:18 pm
Happy Birthday
to

Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 19, 2017, 11:02:16 pm
Enjoy your vacation, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 20, 2017, 03:57:44 am
Many happy returns, Dean!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on July 20, 2017, 06:31:23 pm
Thank you all!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Its was quiet day with Family & friends at dinner.

Even found time for a bit of Transcribing on Leviathan!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 20, 2017, 08:22:41 pm
Thank you all!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Its was quiet day with Family & friends at dinner.

Even found time for a bit of Transcribing on Leviathan!  ;)
A sign of OW Addiction. Transcribing OW on your birthday!  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on July 23, 2017, 07:03:45 pm
http://globalnews.ca/news/3617564/calgary-veteran-who-survived-dunkirk-causes-a-stir-at-movie-premiere/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 23, 2017, 07:20:32 pm
Words of wisdom.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on July 23, 2017, 07:21:47 pm
Just found this too - need to see.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/rachel-carson/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 23, 2017, 09:45:56 pm
I got the first link Kevin - I agree with Randi in that they are words of wisdom. We can fly to the moon and back and should be able to do better than war.

Sadly I can't get the link due to regional limitations  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on July 24, 2017, 08:25:28 am
I think this is the correct video: https://youtube.com/embed/SeJNRaE11A0

I can't see the version in Kevin's link either so I can't say for sure.  :)
This is well worth watching anyway.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 25, 2017, 03:16:45 pm
All of you who have been pulling round the fleet as requisite should be ready for today's event




The 2017 Doggett's Coat and Badge Race (http://www.doggettsrace.org.uk/)

(http://www.fishhall.org.uk/media/1329/danielarnold2010a.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 25, 2017, 03:46:16 pm
With More Ships in the Arctic, Fears of Disaster Rise (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/23/climate/ships-in-the-arctic.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 25, 2017, 05:32:06 pm
Two Weeks on Ice in McMurdo Station, Antartica (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/19/climate/two-weeks-mcmurdo-antarctica.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 25, 2017, 09:41:25 pm
Super chat threads Randi!  Ashamed to say I never heard of the Doggett thing. I'm amazed, though probably very pleased, that they don;t turn this into the same sort of a circus that the Boat Race has become  :)

Fear of getting stuck in Arctic ice? Pah! I've been doing that since about 1885 (OK - on paper - but  - you know)  ;)

Antarctic - great pictures  :D - I'll post that over on PW to fill in the wait for the next pictures  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 25, 2017, 09:46:42 pm
 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 26, 2017, 03:29:43 am
Just a safety reminder for the upcoming eclipse (21 August)...

Quote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/07/21/a-total-solar-eclipse-is-happening-aug-21-and-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
Except during the brief phase of totality, you must wear eclipse-watching glasses the entire time you are looking at the sun. This is also true if you are watching the eclipse from outside the path of totality. If you attempt to look at the eclipse without protective lenses, you risk severe damage to your eyes. Ultraviolet rays from the sun can literally give your eyeballs a sunburn.

Only specially designed solar filters will do the trick. Regular sunglasses are not good enough!

Also

Quote from: https://quizlet.com/80182848/physics-26-think-and-explain-flash-cards/
Clouds are transparent to ultraviolet light, which is why clouds offer no protection from sunburn.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 26, 2017, 09:57:08 pm
Oh you lucky things!! Have you got your eclipse glasses sorted out yet? 

        8)
           8)   ;D   8)
                  8)         
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 28, 2017, 05:18:39 am
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284543/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1733/26-159a-northland-b1733_213.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on July 29, 2017, 11:51:11 am
https://twitter.com/BBCEarth/status/890933793883918336

Don't look if you have a problem with flashing images.
Otherwise, wow. Storm, ships, Milky Way, music ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 29, 2017, 01:49:31 pm
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 29, 2017, 01:53:08 pm
Aivik - 29 July 1943 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23709510/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0002/Aivik-1943-07/Aivik-1943-07_0029.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 29, 2017, 02:45:58 pm
https://twitter.com/BBCEarth/status/890933793883918336

Don't look if you have a problem with flashing images.
Otherwise, wow. Storm, ships, Milky Way, music ...

That was very very nice  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 30, 2017, 03:54:49 am
Indeed!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 30, 2017, 08:24:11 pm
Storis - 30 July 1943 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547995/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1943/storis-wmec-38-1943_0419.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on July 30, 2017, 08:52:26 pm
Looks like we have a long time to go with the Albatross as I am only on 1913. Your page is 1943.

What is the purpose of putting up the page? Is it to show that some pages are readable?  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 30, 2017, 10:21:26 pm
I am just showing off a couple of our upcoming ships ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 30, 2017, 11:30:51 pm
I am just showing off a couple of our upcoming ships ;)

Yeh!!! New ships  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on July 31, 2017, 09:19:30 am
Yesterday was Sydneys Hottest July day in 158yrs (since records started) 26.5c   :o

Average July max is 16.4 BTW.

Today temp dropped to 15.5c in Sydney with rain.  :'(
Max at home today 9.4c also with rain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 31, 2017, 03:06:47 pm
Northwind - 31 July 1946 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23708086/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0002/Northwind-WAG-282-b131/Northwind-WAG-282-b131_0089.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 31, 2017, 07:26:27 pm
Yesterday was Sydneys Hottest July day in 158yrs (since records started) 26.5c   :o

Average July max is 16.4 BTW.

Today temp dropped to 15.5c in Sydney with rain.  :'(
Max at home today 9.4c also with rain.

That 26.5 would be a respectable summer day here, but it's your winter Stuart - ouch!!  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 31, 2017, 07:29:59 pm
Northwind - 31 July 1946 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23708086/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0002/Northwind-WAG-282-b131/Northwind-WAG-282-b131_0089.JPG)

00.00-04.00  I'd want to avoid 'supposed rocks' if I were rounding Cape Horne!   :o :o :o 
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on July 31, 2017, 09:15:40 pm
Just because I'm up to my neck in virtual ice, you should read this (http://globalnews.ca/news/3634272/msv-nordica-sets-new-standard-for-earliest-crossing-of-northwest-passage/).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on July 31, 2017, 09:32:13 pm
 :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on July 31, 2017, 09:37:40 pm
Just because I'm up to my neck in virtual ice, you should read this (http://globalnews.ca/news/3634272/msv-nordica-sets-new-standard-for-earliest-crossing-of-northwest-passage/).

Oh my!!  :( :( :(  Well look at it this way Michael - one day you may become very famous as someone who can talk, with authority, about ice in the North West Passage when rowing it can be done in an open boat in swimming trunks which is where we might be heading to give Stuart's 26.5 winter's day in Sydney  ::) :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on August 01, 2017, 05:22:18 pm
Ever wondered what happened to all the stuff thrown or lost overboard from our ships? - Cannon, anchors and skull found during Portsmouth dredging (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-40787660)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 01, 2017, 06:25:25 pm
I'm trying to picture an explanation for: 'an aircraft engine' going overboard. "It's like this Captain. We was cleaning out the engine compar'ment on the plane and the engine was, well, kinda greasy, and before we knew it 'bloop!' and over she goes..." ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on August 01, 2017, 08:44:15 pm
Could the engine be from an aircraft that ditched in the water close to the coast and broke up on impact?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 01, 2017, 09:15:36 pm
Being serious - more than likely. I doubt the engine really fell off a ship. It's not nice to think that a plane ditched so close to the land - I wonder if the pilot survived?
It's nice to think that the engine number might be found in order to tell us the full story. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on August 01, 2017, 10:45:09 pm
I think the engine may be from a WW I era aircraft made mostly of wood which is why the engine is still left but nothing else.

Amelia Earhart was in the news recently on the Imperial Japanese navy Page combinedfleet.com Japanese aircraft form everything else section there is a post that has quite a few replys on it on her and her final flight and the weather and other things.

on youtube:
Amelia Earhart Mystery solved-Finally! by Joesph Leroy Lodride

World of Myteries-In search of Amelia Earhart

with many comments.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 01, 2017, 11:51:45 pm
Aklak - 1 September 1942 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23709988/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0002/Aklak-1942-09/Aklak-1942-09_0004.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 02, 2017, 03:14:47 pm
Bear - 2 September 1941 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7794786/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/batch-y/Bear-AG-29-1941-09/Bear-AG-29-1941-09-0008.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 02, 2017, 06:45:48 pm
Aklak - 1 September 1942 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23709988/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0002/Aklak-1942-09/Aklak-1942-09_0004.JPG)

'made evening colors' - how nice - very pretty I'm sure  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 02, 2017, 06:47:32 pm
Bear - 2 September 1941 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7794786/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/batch-y/Bear-AG-29-1941-09/Bear-AG-29-1941-09-0008.jpg)

Ouch!! That had to hurt!  :-[ :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 02, 2017, 11:03:54 pm
Can we finish the Classic vessels first?
Everybody (thats left) will be jumping ship to Randi's tit bits.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 03, 2017, 12:02:53 am
I just want people to know that there are more ships to come ;D

I know there is still work to be done on the Classic ships, but I have a suspicion that some people quit because there were too many people per ship :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on August 03, 2017, 01:58:59 am
Michael P. has been keeping track of who is still actively transcribing on OW Classic.
According to him, only 8 people did any work during the month of July.

I suspect this is indeed due to only three ships being left.
But I will continue to work on OW Classic for as long as I can.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 03, 2017, 02:56:08 am
I am back from my June/July holiday and on the Classics.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 03, 2017, 04:08:13 am
Good !
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 03, 2017, 03:56:31 pm
Alatok - 3 August 1943 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23710829/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0002/Alatok-1943-08/Alatok-1943-08_0007.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 03, 2017, 05:49:19 pm
Alatok - 3 August 1943 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23710829/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0002/Alatok-1943-08/Alatok-1943-08_0007.JPG)

Frankly I'd rather be in a comfortable bed at 2.56 in the morning!  :o  ;)



Hello Stuart!!  Hope you had a good holiday - nice to see you back  :D
Hello hanibal!!  Hope you had a good holiday - nice to see you back  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 03, 2017, 07:30:46 pm
I was just speaking with my sister, who has a Ph. D. so she must be very smart, and she told me:

Quote
True = What you choose to believe

and the corollary which follows immediately:

Quote
What you choose to believe = True

She suggested, therefore, that I should stop trying to find ice, because I could choose to believe that it's not necessary, and I should take the cat for a walk but, for the moment, I choose to believe that he isn't interested.  ;D

I think this new paradigm has great possibilities for getting me out of all sorts of things I don't want to do, and to do all sorts of things I shouldn't be doing!   :o  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 03, 2017, 09:02:20 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 03, 2017, 10:48:28 pm
And, Michael, when you get caught doing the things you shouldn't do thanks to this new stream of logic, you can blame you sis for it. Win win situation I reckon  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 03, 2017, 11:05:45 pm
 Thanks, Joan. :) :) :)

In the second week of August, 1903, Thetis couldn't get much farther than Icy Cape on her trip to Point Barrow, Alaska. She had to turn back because the ice was too heavy. She should have waited for 2017. Image courtesy of these fine people (http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/).

(https://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_daily_extent_hires.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on August 03, 2017, 11:24:22 pm
And six weeks still to go to annual ice minimum...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 04, 2017, 02:45:43 pm
A Low-Tech Mosquito Deterrent
Quote from: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/science/a-low-tech-mosquito-deterrent.html
On a low table, they set up a small electric fan, perhaps 12 inches high, that swept back and forth, sending a gentle breeze across the grassy area where people were sitting.
That was it. No citronella candles, no bug zappers, no DEET, nothing expensive or high-tech. Yet amazingly, it worked. As far as I could tell, no mosquitoes flew into the vicinity of the simulated wind; nobody was bitten.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 04, 2017, 07:34:02 pm
And six weeks still to go to annual ice minimum...

Oh that's very depressing Kevin!!  :o But it's good to know why we need to keep up the work here!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 04, 2017, 10:58:57 pm
Eastwind - 4 August 1945 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24428315/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1945/Eastwind-WAG-279-1945_0344.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 04, 2017, 11:05:18 pm
Ummm - funny surname the commander has, for someone working at sea :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 04, 2017, 11:06:36 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 04, 2017, 11:41:37 pm
Ditto
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 05, 2017, 01:15:21 am
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/CGMark_W.svg)


Happy 227th Birthday
United States Coast Guard




Created by Congress on 4 August 1790 at the request of Alexander Hamilton as the Revenue Marine, it is the oldest continuous seagoing service of the United States. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Coast_Guard)


Here are some milestones to celebrate the its 227th birthday (https://communities.usaa.com/t5/USAA-News/Help-Celebrate-the-Coast-Guard-s-227th-Birthday/ba-p/131166?dcm_campaign=20053436&dcm_site=3451711&dclid=COKq68LjvtUCFU2-swodRsICmg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 05, 2017, 11:34:59 am
Happy Birthday Coast Guard!

;D ;D ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/mD0dEj7.png)

I liked this one - fits nicely with what we are doing now :D

(http://i.imgur.com/sJv9GZW.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 06, 2017, 12:09:08 am
Darwin award please.

You may not know but this has been one of the worst fire seasons in B.C. with over 880 fires so far this year. About 50,000 people have been evacuated from their homes from various communities and at various times. Residents of the town of William's Lake, pop. 10,000, have been allowed back, although they are still under an evacuation alert because the fire danger is extreme.

My nominee for a Darwin award is the resident from William's Lake who was just fined for setting off fireworks to celebrate his return. Not only are open fires banned in much of the province but, in many areas, even driving off road vehicles off roads is not allowed. The bush is so dry that even people towing trailers have started fires if they have the trailer safety chains dragging on the road and generating sparks.

So, you can just imagine what the people in William's Lake are thinking about this drunken fool and his fireworks.

Quote
Police detained the man until he was not longer intoxicated.

He was fined more than $1,000 for for allegedly dropping, releasing or mishandling a burning substance, as well as for failing to comply with high risk activity restrictions under  the provincial B.C. Wildfire Act and its regulations.

Police say they're thankful to people who called in the complaint.

"Had this man's actions been overlooked, the outcome could have been dire for the entire community," the release said.

​Williams Lake remains on an evacuation alert.
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.4236937.1501975596!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/firework-being-set-off-in-rural-b-c-area.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 06, 2017, 03:47:14 am
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on August 06, 2017, 09:43:05 am
 :o :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 06, 2017, 02:02:50 pm
That's a level of stupidity that beggars belief entirely  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on August 06, 2017, 02:35:27 pm
Quote from: George Carlin
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on August 06, 2017, 06:24:38 pm
Reminds me of the instruction on how to start an argument in a Glasgow pub. 'Announce that half the people of the city have below average intelligence'. Then run for it!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on August 06, 2017, 07:37:32 pm
even the smart ones can be pretty mean.    ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 06, 2017, 07:52:46 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 06, 2017, 07:56:32 pm
That reminds me of some of our log entries...
02 Dec 1907 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol037of040/vol037of040_106_1.jpg) Shanghai

Quote
Earnest Redlish a deserter from the U.S.N. was brought on board from the U.S.S. Helena. He was brought from Tsingtau to Shanghai by Mr. Gracey, American consuls. Upon being searched a revolver 38 - cal and 30 rounds of ammunition were found upon him. He was confined for safe keeping.

His safety or ours?  ;)

In this case it might be his safety and ours ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 06, 2017, 09:58:56 pm
Quote from: George Carlin
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!

Oh my! There's a thought that never crossed my mind before. I feel so lucky with the education I had  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 07, 2017, 07:17:35 pm
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/wm/live/1600_640/images/live/p0/5b/fw/p05bfwpf.jpg)

Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170803-in-earths-hottest-place-life-has-been-found-in-pure-acid
In a surreal landscape of colours, dominated by luminescent ponds of yellows and greens, boiling hot water bubbles up like a cauldron, whilst poisonous chlorine and sulphur gases choke the air.
Known as the "gateway to hell", the Danakil Depression in Ethiopia is scorchingly hot and one of the most alien places on Earth. Yet a recent expedition to the region has found it is teeming with life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 07, 2017, 07:58:19 pm
Well there we are - it really does take all sorts to make a world  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on August 08, 2017, 12:29:26 am
Quote from: George Carlin
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!

Oh my! There's a thought that never crossed my mind before. I feel so lucky with the education I had  :-\


Support Bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 08, 2017, 12:32:04 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 08, 2017, 07:05:14 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 09, 2017, 05:45:29 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40877099
 Another sign of global warming - peat fires in Greenland  :-[ :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 10, 2017, 01:49:52 pm
This strange spot in the Atlantic is resisting global warming. Scientists think they know why.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/08/02/this-strange-spot-over-the-atlantic-isnt-getting-warmer-scientists-think-they-may-know-why/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 10, 2017, 02:25:35 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40877099
 Another sign of global warming - peat fires in Greenland  :-[ :(
:'(

The Sisimiut in the article may well be Danny252's recent addition to Greenlandic Place Names -- Discussion
http://www.geonames.org/3419842/sisimiut.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 10, 2017, 05:12:34 pm
Looks like it for sure Randi  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 10, 2017, 10:02:29 pm
Some of my pics to go with the Sisimiut post.

http://imgur (dot )com/a/VAOK5

They also have what I believe is the worlds most northerly brewery (and it does make a good brew. )   ;D

and who would have thought this could happen?  :o

http://www.greenland (dot) com/en/articles/notice-wildfire-in-the-arctic-circle-trail-area/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 10, 2017, 10:21:35 pm
Oh gosh - I wonder what the town is like now - safe or in trouble?  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 10, 2017, 10:21:48 pm
 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 21, 2017, 03:16:38 pm
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2143499-ships-fooled-in-gps-spoofing-attack-suggest-russian-cyberweapon/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 21, 2017, 06:03:25 pm
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2143499-ships-fooled-in-gps-spoofing-attack-suggest-russian-cyberweapon/

They must have been doing this for a long time. I've seen Thetis with as much as 30 miles between their noon DR and OBS locations!  ;D ;D ;D

Either that, or one of the navigators from our old ships are still working!   :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 21, 2017, 06:13:19 pm
I can't remember seeing one of my ships at an airport, but they have been in the Andes...





Commander, U.S. 7th Fleet (http://www.c7f.navy.mil/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 21, 2017, 06:26:19 pm
Help! It's getting dark and it's only 10:21 A.M. Something, perhaps a dragon, is eating the sun....
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on August 21, 2017, 07:41:59 pm
Not much effect here in Ottawa-Gatineau. Must be our PM's brilliance that is undershadowing the eclipse.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 21, 2017, 09:26:56 pm
Well - did you all get eaten up by the dragon then?  Were the skies kindly and clear?  :D :D :D

I'm very envious - it's one of the things I'd love to see  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 21, 2017, 10:01:11 pm
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/world/asia/navy-ship-mccain-search-sailors.html
For the John S. McCain to collide with the Alnic MC, a handful of separate functions in the safety chain, such as binocular sightings by officers in the observation deck and radar operations in the bridge and below, must have failed, according to a senior Navy officer.
While on operations, warships do not emit standard satellite tracking signals that other larger vessels use to avoid collision. "They don't want other countries to know where they are going," Mr. Graham said. "There is a degree of stealth. So that puts the balance of responsibility on the warship to maintain watchfulness in case it's not spotted by other vessels."
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 21, 2017, 11:03:01 pm
Curious thing - ships are quite big, and there's no mention of fog. I know you can't spin them on a sixpence, or stop them on a dime piece, but even so - all seems a bit odd  :-\ :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 21, 2017, 11:13:36 pm
Well - did you all get eaten up by the dragon then?  Were the skies kindly and clear?  :D :D :D

I'm very envious - it's one of the things I'd love to see  ;) :D

Only 90% of the sun got eaten up, and it seems to have regenerated itself. Skies were clear, and we are too far from the PM to have the sun be overpowered by his brilliance!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 21, 2017, 11:17:55 pm
Quote
While on operations, warships do not emit standard satellite tracking signals that other larger vessels use to avoid collision. "They don't want other countries to know where they are going," Mr. Graham said. "There is a degree of stealth. So that puts the balance of responsibility on the warship to maintain watchfulness in case it's not spotted by other vessels."

Some many years ago - maybe 20 or so - a Canadian naval ship was doing anti-sub exercises in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. It was very foggy at the time and they shut down ALL their electronics so the sub wouldn't know where they were.  :o  And, more importantly, neither did any of the other vessels, so the destroyer escort, or frigate or whatever her class was, crashed into a freighter or tanker. (I forget which.) Oh, and they never did find the sub...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 22, 2017, 03:36:42 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 22, 2017, 03:37:28 am
What it's like to ride a 6,000-ton icebreaker through Arctic waters (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/08/18/we-went-through-one-of-the-most-infamous-and-narrow-straits-of-the-northwest-passage/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 22, 2017, 04:57:39 am
What it's like to ride a 6,000-ton icebreaker through Arctic waters (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/08/18/we-went-through-one-of-the-most-infamous-and-narrow-straits-of-the-northwest-passage/)

Also in the Bellot Straight Sept 2015.
Ship - Ocean Endeavour
199 guests
Year Built: 1982
Renovated: 2014
124 crew members
Length: 450 feet
Beam: 53 feet
Draft: 18 feet
Gross 12900 tons
Ice Class: 1B
Cruising Speed: 15 knots
Flag: Marshall Islands

No Ice on that day, but plenty around other days.

http://imgur (dot) com/a/4W6zz
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 22, 2017, 05:03:13 am
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 22, 2017, 11:10:47 am
I agree - definitely  8)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 23, 2017, 07:13:09 pm
Wreckage of U.S.S. Indianapolis, Lost for 72 Years, Is Found in the Pacific (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/20/world/asia/uss-indianapolis-paul-allen.html)

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A naval historian, Richard Hulver, came across a blog post that led him last year to a ship?s log recording a sighting of the Indianapolis. Calculations using that record showed that the cruiser was west of where it had long been assumed to be.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 23, 2017, 08:38:52 pm
Fascinating BBC Channel 4 programme on now (so catch up on iplayer if you can) 'Storm Troupers: The Fight to forecast the weather'. All about Fitzroy and the start of weather forecasting.

I've just been reading Peter Moore's book 'The Weather Experiment' on the same subject...quite engrossing :)

Philip Brohan is on the prog!!  ;D ;D ;D

Oh - it's a series - next week the furtherance of weather forecasting into the twentieth century and the World Wars.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on August 23, 2017, 09:43:45 pm
I was just watching that - it was really interesting (did a little cheer when Philip appeared!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 23, 2017, 10:43:42 pm
 ;D ;D ;D Glad you caught it too jil !   
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 23, 2017, 10:57:30 pm
For those of you lucky enough not to be living in Great Britain  ;D, you can't watch the BBC program from their website. However, some wonderful person posted Episode 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t_fBUs6knk) on youtube.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 24, 2017, 01:54:04 am
And some wonderful person posted the link here ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 24, 2017, 04:37:07 am
Alaska's Permafrost Is Thawing (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/23/climate/alaska-permafrost-thawing.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 24, 2017, 07:49:34 am
For those of you lucky enough not to be living in Great Britain  ;D, you can't watch the BBC program from their website. However, some wonderful person posted Episode 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t_fBUs6knk) on youtube.

I watched the link and got S1 E3, was that right?
Must have blinked and missed Phillip  ???
Who was the presenter?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on August 24, 2017, 04:25:35 pm
You can always try using a VPN to get past geographic restrictions.
I know of one called Hola that can be installed as a browser extension. It's free, easy to use and works very well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 24, 2017, 04:51:39 pm
For those of you lucky enough not to be living in Great Britain  ;D, you can't watch the BBC program from their website. However, some wonderful person posted Episode 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t_fBUs6knk) on youtube.

I watched the link and got S1 E3, was that right?
Must have blinked and missed Phillip  ???
Who was the presenter?

Nope - E3 is certainly E3  :o  and can't find episode one so far  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on August 24, 2017, 05:33:48 pm
Episode 1 is on the Beeb's iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07cvg9p
Only episode 3 is on YouTube. I think.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 24, 2017, 05:44:10 pm
Episode 1 is on the Beeb's iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07cvg9p
Only episode 3 is on YouTube. I think.  :)

This is what we, non-Brits, get:

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BBC Four

BBC iPlayer only works in the UK. Sorry, it?s due to rights issues.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 24, 2017, 09:15:38 pm
You can always try using a VPN to get past geographic restrictions.
I know of one called Hola that can be installed as a browser extension. It's free, easy to use and works very well.

Even Hola is not working for me.  ???

(site page comes up but rights message comes up when I try player, even reset Hola., Not fair as I am a UK citizen by birth)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on August 24, 2017, 09:40:19 pm
Weird stuff - let's hope that someone gets episode 1 onto youtube  :-\



OK - that's it for me for a week. Off to the Devon/Cornish border tomorrow with the Pub Quiz friends. So South for lunch (Kernow Pasties - yuuuuum), and North for tea (Devonshire cream tea - yessss).

(Diet? I don't know this word  ;) ;D )

Will miss you all!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 24, 2017, 10:10:06 pm
Enjoy the lovely country and food.
(suggest you stay off the Scrumpy if you want to answer pub trivia with any chance of getting it righjt.  ;D  )
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Tegwen on August 25, 2017, 12:25:08 pm
Weird stuff - let's hope that someone gets episode 1 onto youtube  :-\



OK - that's it for me for a week. Off to the Devon/Cornish border tomorrow with the Pub Quiz friends. So South for lunch (Kernow Pasties - yuuuuum), and North for tea (Devonshire cream tea - yessss).

(Diet? I don't know this word  ;) ;D )

Will miss you all!  :)

The major intelectual difficulty with this itinery: jam or cream on top???
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 25, 2017, 01:57:59 pm
The major intelectual difficulty with this itinery: jam or cream on top???

Alternate ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on August 25, 2017, 03:34:13 pm
The major intelectual difficulty with this itinery: jam or cream on top???

Alternate ;)

Both!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on August 25, 2017, 05:50:39 pm
Allegedly, in Cornwall you add the jam, then the cream, and in Devon you do the opposite.
Or is it the other way around?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on August 25, 2017, 06:21:49 pm
Both are excellent!
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Post by: Thursday Next on August 25, 2017, 08:42:16 pm
Allegedly, in Cornwall you add the jam, then the cream, and in Devon you do the opposite.
Or is it the other way around?  ;)

Well, I live in Devon and I've been told both!  I have just googled it, and Cornwall is indeed jam first, then cream, and in Devon it is cream first, then jam.  However, according to Debrett's, it is jam first, cream second.  So I now find I've been doing it the Cornish way.  But it seems to me that the whole object is to have a great big dollop of cream, and how is that going to work if you're trying to put the jam on top?   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 26, 2017, 12:22:05 am
Slightly left field but when having High Tea, do you eat the scones, jam & cream before or after the sandwiches?   :-\
Yes I do know the cakes should always be eaten first.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 26, 2017, 01:45:23 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_tea

High Tea seems to be something else :-\
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_(meal)#Tea_as_the_evening_meal
High tea typically consists of a hot dish, followed by cakes and bread, butter and jam. Occasionally there would be cold cuts of meat, such as ham salad.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 26, 2017, 02:28:02 am
Another climate-change nightmare: 91 new volcanoes beneath Antarctica?s ice (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/08/15/another-climate-change-nightmare-dozens-of-volcanoes-beneath-antarcticas-thinning-ice/?utm_term=.978ecaf7a1a3&wpisrc=nl_science&wpmm=1)
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That we know at all is thanks in part to a chance discovery by an undergraduate student: de Vries, who at age 20 is still a year away from attaining his geology degree from the Scottish university.
For a class in his freshman year, he was looking through public data collected over several decades, which revealed what little is known about the landscape beneath kilometers of ice that cover much of western Antarctica. "I started discovering these cones," he said.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 26, 2017, 02:34:07 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_tea

High Tea seems to be something else :-\
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_(meal)#Tea_as_the_evening_meal
High tea typically consists of a hot dish, followed by cakes and bread, butter and jam. Occasionally there would be cold cuts of meat, such as ham salad.

Someones pictures of High Tea.
 High Tea  (http://christineknight.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/qvb-high-tea-watermark-17.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 26, 2017, 03:07:45 am
Looks good!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 26, 2017, 03:36:17 am
Naval Vessels, Shadowy by Intent, Are Hard for Commercial Ships to Spot (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/world/asia/navy-collision-uss-mccain-oil-tanker.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on August 26, 2017, 06:00:37 am
Ah, distinctions
Afternoon tea is sandwiches and/or savoury nibbles followed by scones and/or cakes washed down with ... tea

High tea, popular on Scottish menus, is a main course, often hot, followed by scones and/or cakes and ... tea

High tea is often served 5-7pm and restaurants then switch to the dinner menu when the same main course may be offered at a higher price than the whole High tea. If you are touring then the High tea option offers a budget (and high calory) way of eating evening meals, the dress code is often more relaxed as well in those establishments who still have one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 26, 2017, 07:37:02 am
Thanks for the distinction.
(I think you missed putting the 'Deep Fried Mars bars' on the Scottish menu.)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hurlock on August 26, 2017, 08:29:59 am
I used to buy deep fried pizza when I was at college in Edinburgh many years ago.  It was very nice.  The chip shop did deep fried haggis too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on August 26, 2017, 09:46:12 am
I used to buy deep fried pizza when I was at college in Edinburgh many years ago.  It was very nice.  The chip shop did deep fried haggis too.

Aaah, deep fried Haggis.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on August 26, 2017, 10:15:59 am
I went shopping yesterday and noticed Haggis Pakora in the special offers fridge!!

Deep fried mars bars are definitely 'carry oots'. There used to be a chip shop near Haymarket who sold curried haggis suppers.
[Note: in Glasgow anyway, Fish and Chips is a Fish Supper even when eaten at lunchtime, in fact anything deep fried & served with chips is a 'supper'.]
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on August 26, 2017, 08:29:42 pm
Other problems hurting the USN it doesn't have enough ships so the ones in service are being kept at sea longer which means less time for dockyard maintenance. This also means less time for crew training and crews at sea are overworked which leads to tired/exhausted sailors trying to work. Some people tend to blame merchant ship collisions and grounding to having "Johnny Walker" at the helm
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on August 26, 2017, 09:06:08 pm
I went shopping yesterday and noticed Haggis Pakora in the special offers fridge!!

Deep fried mars bars are definitely 'carry oots'. There used to be a chip shop near Haymarket who sold curried haggis suppers.
[Note: in Glasgow anyway, Fish and Chips is a Fish Supper even when eaten at lunchtime, in fact anything deep fried & served with chips is a 'supper'.]

A pizza takeaway near me is advertising chocolate pizza  :o (no, I haven't tried it!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on August 27, 2017, 03:02:38 pm

A pizza takeaway near me is advertising chocolate pizza  :o (no, I haven't tried it!)

Much though I like chocolate, I think I would draw the line there - pizza good, chocolate good - the two together - not so good.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on August 27, 2017, 05:59:18 pm
Exactly!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on September 01, 2017, 09:48:12 pm
This popped up on Apple news. Thought some may be interested.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/502774/blind-traveler-how-james-holman-felt-his-way-around-world-become-historys-most (http://mentalfloss.com/article/502774/blind-traveler-how-james-holman-felt-his-way-around-world-become-historys-most)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 01, 2017, 11:39:54 pm
 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 02, 2017, 01:06:50 am
Fascinating!

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By his death at 70 in 1857, the blind man had walked, climbed, ridden, hiked, and sailed a total distance equal to traveling to the moon.

Finding out his history was also quite a project!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 02, 2017, 07:49:57 pm
Back from a lovely week on Hartland point in Devon. Great week with friends - pretty good weather too. And virtually no one else there- they must have all driven past to get to Cornwall.
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on September 02, 2017, 08:09:53 pm
No, Joan - they were all in Exeter shopping for school shoes, school stationery and heaven knows what else!   >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on September 02, 2017, 08:16:08 pm
We keep hearing about the weather down South  >:( but it couldn't happen to a nicer girl.

We've just had one of our occasional nice days  :) so I bagged another castle on Doors Open Day - Portencross, superb views from the battlements including Ailsa Craig and Cumbrae Lighthouse. Superb car park and picnic area nearby BUT no public loo, pub or cafe in village. So early exit to nearby West Kilbride for fluids in and out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 02, 2017, 08:21:01 pm
Temperatures here, Menlo Park, California, in the low forties (Celsius). I just wish I could send some of it your way.  ;)

The ironic thing is that the hot water system in our daughter's house stopped working! Luckily, with these temperatures, hot water isn't really top of mind.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 02, 2017, 08:54:21 pm
Thanks studentforever -  :) :) :)  Just checked the rainfall radar - we'll get a drenching in Oxfordshire tomorrow  ;)

Sorry to hear about the lack of suitable tea etc in that local village - amazing. Seems very odd that no one's sorted that out - a business venture for someone I should think  :)

Michael - get a bigger fridge and climb in  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 04, 2017, 08:01:49 pm
If anyone can get to BBC 4 they have just started a programme about WW1 ships and submarines around Scotland.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 05, 2017, 04:26:23 pm
An interesting article (http://medialens.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=853:the-bbc-s-climate-denialism-coverage-of-hurricane-harvey-and-the-south-asian-floods&catid=55:alerts-2017&Itemid=249) about media coverage of Hurricane Harvey (lots), the South Asian floods (little) and climate change (none).

Interesting to me was the note in the article mentioning that Houston is a major centre for oil refining in the US. Not mentioned was how the record forest fire severely damaged Fort McMurray, Alberta, (centre of tar sands mining) last year. It's as if Mother Nature is attacking the source of her troubles.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 05, 2017, 06:29:32 pm
It's as if Mother Nature is attacking the source of her troubles.

Can't blame her for that - Go for it Ma!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on September 05, 2017, 08:13:43 pm
An interesting article (http://medialens.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=853:the-bbc-s-climate-denialism-coverage-of-hurricane-harvey-and-the-south-asian-floods&catid=55:alerts-2017&Itemid=249) about media coverage of Hurricane Harvey (lots), the South Asian floods (little) and climate change (none).

Interesting to me was the note in the article mentioning that Houston is a major centre for oil refining in the US. Not mentioned was how the record forest fire severely damaged Fort McMurray, Alberta, (centre of tar sands mining) last year. It's as if Mother Nature is attacking the source of her troubles.

That's an interesting article.  I get most of my news from BBC radio and the South Asian floods were barely mentioned.  If it wasn't for the fact that I sometimes catch the World Service I'd hardly be aware that this disaster had even happened.

The BBC has an odd position on climate change.  They are required to be balanced, so just about every time climate change is discussed they feel they need to present both sides of the argument; despite the fact that the evidence for man-made climate change is now overwhelming, they still usually seek out a climate change denier (frequently Nigel Lawson, who isn't even a scientist).  I'm surprised they don't keep dragging out spokespersons from the Flat Earth Society!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 05, 2017, 11:51:15 pm
Or someone to point out that the world was completely covered in water 6,000 years ago, so today's sea level rise is nothing to worry about!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 06, 2017, 12:37:37 am
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on September 06, 2017, 03:20:07 pm
https://unwritten-record.blogs.archives.gov/2017/09/05/now-you-see-me-now-you-still-see-me-hand-painted-british-dazzle-camouflage-templates-from-wwi/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on September 06, 2017, 03:24:01 pm
https://www.facebook.com/WPLGLocal10/videos/10154880200148837/

Video shot by colleagues on NOAA 42 flying into Irma.

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 06, 2017, 03:37:25 pm
Thanks, Kevin!

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?You should see our fleet, it?s camouflaged to look like a flock of Easter eggs going out to sea.?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on September 06, 2017, 04:27:48 pm
Indian call centre scammers are targeting BT customers (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/06/bt_call_scam/)

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In some cases fraudsters knew their mark's personal details

"She even knew my address, phone number and both mine and my husbands name... so had access to some of our details."
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 06, 2017, 04:28:30 pm
https://www.facebook.com/WPLGLocal10/videos/10154880200148837/

Video shot by colleagues on NOAA 42 flying into Irma.

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Something I have always wanted to do and see!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on September 06, 2017, 04:33:29 pm
https://www.facebook.com/WPLGLocal10/videos/10154880200148837/

Video shot by colleagues on NOAA 42 flying into Irma.

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Something I have always wanted to do and see!
I'll second the 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) but not the wanting to do it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on September 06, 2017, 09:21:59 pm
https://www.facebook.com/WPLGLocal10/videos/10154880200148837/

Video shot by colleagues on NOAA 42 flying into Irma.

It says they were flying through the Eye wall, inwards of outwards?

They would not have too wash the plane when they returned.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on September 06, 2017, 11:43:49 pm
The BEAR is laying out Melville-Bryant Drift Casks in 1901...

http://www.geographicalsociety.org/New/archive/drift-cask-project/
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Zovacor on September 07, 2017, 03:31:54 am
Main page is showing 100% complete!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on September 07, 2017, 04:47:39 pm
Actually, it must be between 99.5% and 100% complete. But they round it up to get a whole number.
It's the same with the progress bars on the individual ships.

This fight ain't over yet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 07, 2017, 08:10:55 pm
The BEAR is laying out Melville-Bryant Drift Casks in 1901...

http://www.geographicalsociety.org/New/archive/drift-cask-project/

That's fascinating - hadn't heard of this at all Stuart. I'll get time to read this properly over the weekend.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 08, 2017, 08:38:26 pm
For those of you who are like me and are fascinated by hurricanes, here is a nice display (https://www.yr.no/kart/#lat=26.30338&lon=-77.66246&zoom=6&laga=trykk&baseid=PunktUtlandet%3A4167510&proj=900913) of hurricane Irma as she moves across Florida from south to north. You can also see Jose developing later next week. These data are from the European Centre for Medium range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) which is the gold standard for weather forecasting. As a matter of interest, the Canadian model puts Irma's track slightly to the east so she moves north along the east coast of Florida.

With my little notebook, the animation is a bit slow, but still something to see.

Good luck to the people of Florida and the southeast U.S.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on September 08, 2017, 09:22:06 pm
Looks like a bit more  TOMNOD  (http://www.tomnod.com/) next week for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 08, 2017, 10:15:54 pm
Looks like a bit more  TOMNOD  (http://www.tomnod.com/) next week for me.

That's worth looking at Stuart....it's an amazing thing to be able to help using satellite images. Then it's a case of many heads/hands make light work of tracking the problems.  :) Changing things on the ground will be a lot harder  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 10, 2017, 07:41:09 pm
99 Years Later, Navy Probing Warship Disaster Off Long Island (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/10/nyregion/uss-san-diego-warship-sunk-long-island-navy.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 10, 2017, 09:06:11 pm
99 Years Later, Navy Probing Warship Disaster Off Long Island (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/10/nyregion/uss-san-diego-warship-sunk-long-island-navy.html)

An impressive effort after so long - I wish them luck :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on September 11, 2017, 10:22:45 pm
The standard view is San Diego hits mine laid by U156 and capsizes and sinks fairly quickly. Note most pre-dreadnought era Battleships and Cruisers could not take underwater damage from mines and torpedoes

On the lighter side on 9 sep 17 there was the first use of OMG short for OH My God! in history in a letter by retired Admiral Jackie Fisher to Winston Churchill on the new list of honors that came out earlier that year in England. MBE, OBE, CBE, KBE,GBE. This is from the 9 Sep 17 Wall Street Journal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 12, 2017, 02:45:35 pm
Help those affected by Hurricane Irma (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4705.msg146059#msg146059)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 14, 2017, 02:09:30 am
More Hurricane Irma images available (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4705.msg146106#msg146106)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on September 20, 2017, 03:27:17 am
Why the San Diego sank The ship was hit by a mine in the port engine room which flooded along with Number 8 fireroom. E. Keble Chatterton in one of his books points out that the bow wave of a ship will sometimes push a mine out of the way and it will swing back and hit the ship midships. The ship soon listed to 17.5 degrees. A ship this size with a centerline bulkhead between the engine rooms will list badly do to a mine hit like this unless the crew starts counterflooding really fast. The ship continued to list until water started coming in the gunports on the side of the hull which flooded the ship even more and increased the list and caused the ship to capsize.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on September 22, 2017, 09:33:03 am
Happy equinox everybody!

(https://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/equinoxes-and-solstice.png?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on September 22, 2017, 12:55:16 pm
Thanks Caro - it does always feel like a turning point in the year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 22, 2017, 02:31:23 pm
"The Hobbit," by J.R.R. Tolkien, was published 80 years ago this week.
The book, and the follow-up trilogy "The Lord of the Rings," gave Sept. 22 as the birthday of the two greatest hobbit heroes, Bilbo Baggins and, 78 years later, Frodo. Fans celebrate it as Hobbit Day.
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on September 22, 2017, 05:25:37 pm
Quote from: The Wiki
Some Tolkien fans celebrate by having parties and feasts emulating the hobbit's parties. Other fans celebrate by simply going barefooted in honor of the hobbits, who don't wear shoes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 22, 2017, 08:43:22 pm
Thanks Caro!  :D :D :D  We had a beautiful equinox in Oxford - mostly sunny and quite warm!

And a lovely day for shoe-less hobbits I imagine. My bus goes past Wolvercote cemetery on the way to and fro to Oxford. Tolkien is buried there along with his wife. Hobbits and even Orcs turn up to commemorate his passing each year on the 2nd September. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 23, 2017, 03:22:49 am
The growing debate about the Arctic?s influence on hurricanes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/09/15/the-growing-debate-about-the-arctics-influence-on-hurricanes/)
?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 23, 2017, 03:30:16 pm
About ten years ago I wrote three unpublished papers about climate change in the Yukon. While doing them, I investigated the change in the upper winds over Prince George, B.C. Basic Meteorology 101 teaches us that the difference in temperature between the poles and the equator drives the westerly circulation: the greater the difference in temperature, the stronger the westerly flow. I looked at the change in the westerly component of the wind at 500 MB, which is the mid point of the atmosphere. There was a definite weakening in the strength of the westerly component over time, which is consistent with the arctic warming faster than the tropics.

I read a similar article to the one posted by Randi. It is here (http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/42035-hurricane-harvey-25-000-year-storm-enhanced-or-caused-by-climate-change).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 23, 2017, 05:43:54 pm
Permission to feel very frightened by that  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 23, 2017, 06:39:56 pm
I'm assured by Scott Pruitt, the fourteenth Administrator of the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), who says not to worry. Just put on a nice cuppa tea and buy shares in a coal company.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 23, 2017, 10:11:03 pm
;D ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on September 24, 2017, 08:00:58 pm
The cuppa tea's a good idea, at least.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 26, 2017, 03:03:05 am
Now we know how much glacial melting 'watermelon snow' can cause (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/now-we-know-how-much-glacial-melting-watermelon-snow-can-cause)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 26, 2017, 09:38:12 pm
Now we know how much glacial melting 'watermelon snow' can cause (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/now-we-know-how-much-glacial-melting-watermelon-snow-can-cause)

 :o :o :o  Then again those of us dealing with dark red penguin poo will not be that surprised. But it's good to have a figure put on the red algae.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on September 28, 2017, 05:13:02 pm
How an app could help stop the next flu pandemic (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41429210)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on September 28, 2017, 05:40:39 pm
Ah well, that lets me off the hook. My mobile phone makes phone calls & sends texts and not much more. Not that they would find my comings & goings very interesting anyway,
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 28, 2017, 06:31:43 pm
How an app could help stop the next flu pandemic (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41429210)
It'll be interesting to see the general reaction to this. There might be some who reckon that nature should simply take its course?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 28, 2017, 08:30:56 pm
A key Antarctic glacier just lost a huge piece of ice -- the latest sign of its worrying retreat (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/09/25/a-key-antarctic-glacier-just-lost-a-piece-of-ice-four-times-the-size-of-manhattan)

http://www.geonames.org/6623299/pine-island-glacier.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 28, 2017, 08:41:03 pm
Ah well, that lets me off the hook. My mobile phone makes phone calls & sends texts and not much more. Not that they would find my comings & goings very interesting anyway,

Me, too. No mobile phone.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on September 28, 2017, 08:49:27 pm
Ah well, that lets me off the hook. My mobile phone makes phone calls & sends texts and not much more. Not that they would find my comings & goings very interesting anyway,

Me, too. No mobile phone.  :)

Sorry, that doesn't let you off contributing to the research at all - there is a link to an online questionnaire at the end of the article for those of us who don't have smartphones!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on September 28, 2017, 08:53:24 pm
How an app could help stop the next flu pandemic (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41429210)
It'll be interesting to see the general reaction to this. There might be some who reckon that nature should simply take its course?  :-\

Yes, I have a friend who thinks like that ... personally I'd rather see a different approach to over-population.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 28, 2017, 09:15:05 pm
Yes, I have a friend who thinks like that ... personally I'd rather see a different approach to over-population.

Me too :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 29, 2017, 12:15:52 am
Bear, August 12, 1926 (http://"https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24387607/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0001-A1/Bear-b362-1926-07-thru-12/Bear-b362-1926-07-thru-12-0086.jpg).

I wonder if the movie is on Netflix?  ;D

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8:36 Cape Lisburne abeam, bearing 92 true, distance 4.7 miles. 8:47 Changed course to 163 psc. 9:30 Quarters. Set all sail to afford motion picture men on board an opportunity to photograph sea scenes. Various courses to SE, various speeds. 9:50 In log. 10:10 Resumed course 163 psc at standard speed and streamed log. 10:30 Took in all sail.

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on September 29, 2017, 04:32:53 pm
There's this one from 1921: https://www.youtube.com/embed/2ZjKnjghgXc


changed link to embeded ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on September 29, 2017, 05:45:18 pm
Thanks, Kevin, that was brilliant!  :) :) :)

 I was so happy to see the school house at Barrow. I can't count the number of bearings that have been taken off it and the ones in Wainwright, Tigara, Kivalina and others. Also seeing the boundary marker. I recall that the Bear went there one year, I just don't remember which one.  Look for the Longitude of 141W and you will have the date that particular sequence was shot. You can also estimate the thickness of the ice for that day and location.  ;)

All the film needs is someone one the player piano...  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on September 29, 2017, 11:05:26 pm
 8) 8) 8)

Reindeer!

Thanks, Kevin!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on September 30, 2017, 09:45:53 am
Excellent film, thanks, Kevin!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on September 30, 2017, 01:01:31 pm
Oh thanks Kevin - that was really special! :D :D :D

I love the Bear and all of that part of the Arctic.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 01, 2017, 02:32:58 am
Navy Returns to Compasses and Pencils to Help Avoid Collisions at Sea (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/us/politics/navy-orders-safety-operational-standards.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 01, 2017, 12:24:18 pm
Navy Returns to Compasses and Pencils to Help Avoid Collisions at Sea (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/us/politics/navy-orders-safety-operational-standards.html)

It sounds amusing at first glance -but the loss of 17 sailors due to no change in working circumstances, and after plenty of warnings within the Admiralty, I always come back to the idea that there should be such a thing as corporate manslaughter in such circumstances.  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on October 02, 2017, 05:05:11 pm
As a merchant mariner I might note that we always had to pass a week-long battery of exams, the content of which in many ways was unchanged since a century ago. Still had to pass a paper chart and celestial navigation exam with only the old dividers, parallel rule or triangles, and a non-programmable calculator (with minimum score of 90, which was on some tests only 1 question wrong). Oh, and flashing light Morse code in case of wartime convoy duty. The old ways are time-tested.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 02, 2017, 05:20:35 pm
Thanks for the feedback, Kevin!

I think that there is a lot to be said for knowing and understanding the basics even if you normally use an automated system.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 02, 2017, 08:34:47 pm
I notice that Channel 'More4' is showing a programme 'Jutland : WW1's Greatest Sea Battle' (might well be a repeat?) at 9 o'clock tonight for those of you in Blighty  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 03, 2017, 02:57:56 am
2 October: International Day of Non-Violence - the birthday of Mahatma Gandhi (http://www.un.org/en/events/nonviolenceday/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 03, 2017, 10:19:37 am
2 October: International Day of Non-Violence - the birthday of Mahatma Gandhi (http://www.un.org/en/events/nonviolenceday/)

Ah, Ma Hat, My coat and Ma Gandhi.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 05, 2017, 03:38:55 am
Being the only one working on the Northland, I thought I would post little interesting bits here.

Northland 24 July 1929

Anchored at: 66.12 -161.90.  (Off Cape Blossom, Alaska)

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8 AM to Meridian
Lowered motor surf boat and sent an additional working party on shore, in charge of Boatswain H. M Berg, to assist in locating and salvaging disabled airplane. Omitted quarters and drills on account of crew working party being on shore.

6:00 PM to 8:00 PM.
7:06, working party returned aboard, having pushed the stranded airplane several miles and enabled it to take off and go to Kotzebue.

Back around the year 2000, a dozen of us paddled the Wind River in the Yukon. Very remote, you need to charter a bush plane, an old single engine Otter, to fly north from Mayo and land near the head of the river. You then paddle for two weeks to the confluence of the Peel River, at which time another airplane picks you up. Half way down the river we were surprised to see a couple of planes and perhaps a helicopter flying around. It turns out that one of the Otters, picking up a group from a lake to the east of us, ran out of room on the lake and ran into the trees at the end of the lake. Another Otter came, picked up the people, and dropped off a mechanic to fix the wounded plane. As the second plane, or maybe it was a third one - I forget - was flying up the Wind the weather closed in and the pilot decided to land on the river. He hit some rocks and punctured his floats, so he ran up on shore. It was a while after this that we happened on the scene. The pilot had pumped out his floats, and he figured if we could pull him off the rocks, all the passengers long since gone in the helicopter, he would have just enough time to get in the air before his floats filled completely and he would turn into a submarine. So the dozen of us attached ropes to the plane and managed to get him pointed in the right direction and pull him off the rocks and into the water. With a roar, he made it into the air, with water pouring from his damaged floats as he gradually gained height.

This was very exciting and all, but the thought that stuck with us was this: these are the guys who are going to be picking us up in a week!?!   ;D ;D ;D

I posted some photos of the trip here (https://imgur.com/a/C100m).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 05, 2017, 03:49:42 am
 ::)

Evidently they did...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on October 05, 2017, 08:31:35 am
Great pics!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 05, 2017, 02:45:14 pm
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 05, 2017, 06:25:13 pm
What beautiful country - immense  :D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on October 05, 2017, 09:50:56 pm
Great pictures, great story  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 06, 2017, 03:27:29 am
Scientists mapping Greenland have produced some surprising -- and worrying -- results (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/10/04/scientists-mapping-greenland-have-produced-some-surprising-and-worrying-results/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Danny252 on October 06, 2017, 09:48:15 am
I attended a talk by Dr. Jon Robson of Reading University last night, discussing whether the Gulf Stream is likely to shut off. Happily, he concluded that the Gulf Stream is very stable - however, the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC), which is what brings warm water to Europe and is what many of us think of as the Gulf Stream, is a bit more precarious!

As the circulation relies on cold, salty water sinking, it is thought to be very sensitive to dilution of the North Atlantic by freshwater - such as the water introduced by, say, lots of melted ice! A historical weakening/turn off of the AMOC is correlated with a major cooling of the climate about 8000 years ago (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.2_kiloyear_event); although which way the correlation goes is unclear (the weather cooled because the AMOC turned off or vice versa), there is evidence suggesting that the release of fresh water from Glacial Lake Agassiz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Agassiz) may have diluted the Atlantic sufficiently to turn off the AMOC, stopping the transfer of heat to the northern hemisphere.

Dr. Robson discussed what climate models suggest, and many show that whilst a weakening of the AMOC due to climate change is likely, it's unlikely it will turn off. However, there are suggestions that climate models currently predict an AMOC that is too stable, and by tweaking the models to match observations, many do start to predict a major change! Western Europe's climate would be significantly changed, and he suggested that sea ice would regularly reach Scotland, with much of the UK seeing permanent snow for months of the year along with a decrease in precipitation, as well as a 30cm rise in sea level (I asked him about this; the cause is a little complex, involving the interaction between large currents and the Earth's rotation, and I can't say I fully understand it!).

He mentioned that one of the major difficulties in modelling the AMOC is the lack of historical (or even modern) data of ocean temperatures at depth; perhaps OW needs to find some ships doing measurements at sea, like I know the Albatross has! However, he did show data based on historical surface temperature records, showing the difference in temperature since 1901; whilst almost all areas of the globe showed heating, due to global warming, the North Atlantic shows a slight cooling, perhaps indicative of less heat being transferred northwards...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 06, 2017, 01:42:00 pm
Thanks for contributing that!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 06, 2017, 03:19:11 pm
24th Annual Golden SpurtleTM
World Porridge Making Championship
Saturday 7th October 2017
Since 1996, the World Porridge Making Championship has taken place each year in the Scottish Highlands village of Carrbridge. The oaty cook-off draws competitors from across the globe to compete for the coveted Golden Spurtle trophy and title of "World Porridge Making Champion." Not satisfied with just oats, water and salt? Don't worry, competitors also battle it out for the speciality trophy in a section that celebrates the diversity of porridge with past winners including Sticky Toffee Porridge, Fruity Date Porridge and Pinhead Risotto with Lemon and Thyme and Parmesan - the possibilities are endless!

http://www.goldenspurtle.com
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 06, 2017, 11:23:23 pm
Porridge is easy - my way is the best of course - I'll be along to collect the golden spurtle later. Got to say that a wooden spoon is easier than a spurtle. Then again you can use a garden dibber (and vice versa) if you lose your spurtle.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 07, 2017, 12:46:12 am
I'm deciding whether the value of the golden spurtle and the honour of winning it is worth the cost of a return flight to Scotland.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 07, 2017, 12:53:57 am
Hmmm. I guess I would have to charter a Concord to get there on time, but they aren't flying any longer, and I don't suppose the U. S. A. F. would loan me an SR-71 Blackbird for a couple of days.  :'( :'( :'(

You're in luck, Joan. I won't be able to take the prize away from you. It's all yours...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hurlock on October 07, 2017, 08:17:39 am
Canny timetabling to fit in 24 annual events since 1996.  If you miss this one it might not be very long to the next one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 07, 2017, 02:09:59 pm
:o
Perhaps a careless transcriber?
Quote from: http://www.goldenspurtle.com
Since 1996, the World Porridge Making Championship has taken place each year in the Scottish Highlands village of Carrbridge.
Quote from: http://www.goldenspurtle.com/competition/history-championships/
The first Golden Spurtle World Porridge Making Championships were held in Carrbridge on Sunday, 11th September, 1994.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on October 07, 2017, 04:51:59 pm
Here's a cuteness overload for your Saturday...

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-41488959/toronto-zoo-s-tumbling-panda-cubs
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 07, 2017, 05:29:10 pm
Hmmm. I guess I would have to charter a Concord to get there on time, but they aren't flying any longer, and I don't suppose the U. S. A. F. would loan me an SR-71 Blackbird for a couple of days.  :'( :'( :'(

You're in luck, Joan. I won't be able to take the prize away from you. It's all yours...  ;)

Hehehe - I'll drop a note back to the USAF to thank them  ;) ;) ;D


Here's a cuteness overload for your Saturday...

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-41488959/toronto-zoo-s-tumbling-panda-cubs
Awwwwwwwwwww. Almost makes me look forward to winter.  :-* :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on October 07, 2017, 06:03:53 pm
The Viking therapy club: Where men fight their demons (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/viking_club_where_men_fight_their_demons)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on October 07, 2017, 06:13:44 pm
Here's a cuteness overload for your Saturday...

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-41488959/toronto-zoo-s-tumbling-panda-cubs
No wonder they're endangered!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on October 08, 2017, 12:58:29 pm
I'm deciding whether the value of the golden spurtle and the honour of winning it is worth the cost of a return flight to Scotland.  ;D ;D ;D

The Golden Spurtle was won by a Swede ....
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-41539322
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 08, 2017, 02:00:56 pm
I'm deciding whether the value of the golden spurtle and the honour of winning it is worth the cost of a return flight to Scotland.  ;D ;D ;D

The Golden Spurtle was won by a Swede ....
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-41539322

'Mr Carlsson impressed judges with his dish Nordic Porridge - Caramel Sweet and Sour, a porridge made with oatmeal, cloudberry liqueur, orange peel and whipped cream, topped with flamb?ed cloudberries and whipped cream.'

Mr Carlsson  - I need you to cook that for me - a lot  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on October 08, 2017, 09:29:16 pm
Can't understand why the judges weren't impressed by my bung-it-in-the-microwave Oats So Simple  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 08, 2017, 09:37:46 pm
I microwave mine too - but I use milk instead of water.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 08, 2017, 09:41:23 pm
I microwave mine too - but I use milk instead of water.

 :o :o :o :o  :'( :'( :'( :'(

Not shocked by the idea of milk. However, the idea of instant oats in a microwave leads me speechless...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 08, 2017, 09:57:31 pm
Not instant!
Bob's extra thick, whole grain, rolled oats ;D
(he won last year!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 08, 2017, 11:11:00 pm
Not instant!
Bob's extra thick, whole grain, rolled oats ;D
(he won last year!)

Whew! OK. Heart rate is going back to normal...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 09, 2017, 12:12:50 am
Can't understand why the judges weren't impressed by my bung-it-in-the-microwave Oats So Simple  ???
;D ;D ;D  Did you give them the syrup flavoured one?  I'd do a lot for that...it's too yummy  :P :D :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 09, 2017, 01:41:43 pm
The Viking therapy club: Where men fight their demons (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/viking_club_where_men_fight_their_demons)

Hi hanibal, I didn't remember to reply to this, sorry. I loved the way the fierce vikings obediently sat out nicely to one side on the grass when they were 'killed' during the re-enacted battles.  It's nice to see a community of like minded folk, who presumably don't mind getting the odd bash or bruise in the rough and tumble of it all.   I've probably posted about this before - I do a type of knitting that the Vikings used, nalbinding. Strangely enough one of the regulars on PenguinWatch goes to medieval re-enactments in Germany and has learnt to nalbind items for her stall there. We agreed that we hate Tarim (or Coptic) stitch which looks a lot like knitting but is grim when trying to change rows (I haven't worked it out yet - I can only go in circles). I was just looking for a picture of the hat I made using Dalarna stitch. It's unbelievably warm....made out of chunky real wool (that stuff is getting very expensive!!).  Because the tension is almost impossible to define you have to do the pattern yourself which is a case of needing to do a bit of geometry...adds to the fun :D  Of course the Vikings would have made things by their log fires as the men told tales of the 'one that got away was this big' and you'd simply make the item to fit the head that would wear it by trying it on a lot.

(https://i.imgur.com/byzcT7K.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 09, 2017, 01:56:30 pm
I remember your mentioning nalbinding a looong time ago...

I see that it wasn't just you and the Vikings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A5lebinding
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on October 09, 2017, 02:46:54 pm
The British Antarctic Survey has got their act together and hope to send a ship to investigate the sea floor under the recently calved giant iceberg next year,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41553687
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 09, 2017, 09:31:34 pm
I remember your mentioning nalbinding a looong time ago...

I see that it wasn't just you and the Vikings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A5lebinding

 :o  Well I guess it does get pretty cold in the desert at night which might explain the Egyptians using it. Perhaps - using a sheep fleece, goat hair and camel hair mixture? :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 09, 2017, 09:36:48 pm
The British Antarctic Survey has got their act together and hope to send a ship to investigate the sea floor under the recently calved giant iceberg next year,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41553687

I'm still stunned by that piece of ice. I'm sure that there will be some very interesting things bobbing around underneath it.  Shame that Boaty McBoatFace couldn't help out. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 09, 2017, 10:05:35 pm
The British Antarctic Survey has got their act together and hope to send a ship to investigate the sea floor under the recently calved giant iceberg next year,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41553687
Great news!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on October 10, 2017, 06:24:34 am
A novel way of examining the history of air pollution in industiral areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41557157
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 10, 2017, 01:46:18 pm
Clever!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 10, 2017, 03:44:48 pm
Clever!
Very!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on October 11, 2017, 10:02:29 am
Concerning news from the Antarctic, I'm afraid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41573917
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 11, 2017, 06:42:28 pm
Indeed. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 11, 2017, 08:32:37 pm
Oh dear - a new bleak outlook at every turn  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on October 12, 2017, 07:59:49 am
(http://fla.fg-a.com/boats/tug-boat-animated.gif)(https://gallery.yopriceville.com/var/albums/Free-Clipart-Pictures/Cakes-PNG/Birthday_Cake_with_Candle_PNG_Clipart_Image.png?m=1446272298)        . . . .    Happy seventh birthday Old Weather  ;D  Bob, Caro, Joan and Randi  . . . .
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on October 12, 2017, 08:35:05 am
Happy Birthday to us! Follow that cake!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on October 12, 2017, 09:51:50 am
How time flies. Let's also remember those who are no longer with us or have had to leave us through ill-health and toast their memory.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 12, 2017, 03:32:52 pm
Amen to that!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 12, 2017, 06:39:40 pm
This day in history.

Monday, August 10, 1931. U.S.C.G.S. Northland. Anchored off Wainwright, Alaska: 70 40N, 160 10W
Quote
6:00 pm to 8:00 pm.

Anchored as before. 7:05 Sea plane with C. A. Lidbergh passed over, heading southeastward.

I think I've heard of that guy.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on October 12, 2017, 07:36:19 pm
Quote from: The Wiki
Lindbergh and Pan American World Airways head Juan Trippe were interested in developing a great circle air route across Alaska and Siberia to China and Japan. In the summer of 1931, with Trippe's support, Lindbergh and his wife flew from Long Island to Nome, Alaska and from there to Siberia, Japan and China. The route was not available for commercial service until after World War II, as prewar aircraft lacked the range to fly Alaska to Japan nonstop, and the United States had not officially recognized the Soviet government.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 12, 2017, 07:48:56 pm
 8) 8) 8)

Although I note that the Northland made no mention of Mrs. Lindbergh.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 13, 2017, 12:41:15 am
How time flies. Let's also remember those who are no longer with us or have had to leave us through ill-health and toast their memory.

I'll say 'Amen to that' too!  I didn't join at the start and that's still a sad thing for me - it would be great to have been here at the very beginning. One thing is for sure, I love it here and couldn't imagine life without OW.  :-* ;D :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Kevin on October 13, 2017, 02:00:30 am
A lost Russian airplane to keep an eye out for: N-209 (around August 11-14, 1937)
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/article/russians-search-lost-30s-era-soviet-bomber-alaska/2013/09/30/

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 13, 2017, 02:27:50 am
Name  (+link)          Lat            Long            Notes
Oliktok Point (http://www.geonames.org/5870811/oliktok-point.html)70.51028-149.86000

Name  (+link)          Lat            Long            Notes
Colville River (http://www.geonames.org/5859748/colville-river.html)70.44611-150.35778


http://www.geonames.org/5880445/beechey-point.html
http://www.geonames.org/5874243/simpson-lagoon.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on October 13, 2017, 12:46:55 pm
Does the bad news from the polar regions never cease? This time it's penguins.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41608722
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 13, 2017, 02:19:11 pm
(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/ebay94582/ebt/images/YW60722/a1.jpg)
For Joan...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 13, 2017, 02:24:47 pm
The story does include a link to a 2016 article: Penguin Watch: Public asked to aid Antarctic research (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35981212), so maybe you will have a few new volunteers ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 13, 2017, 06:12:01 pm
And, from the other end of the world, you can listen to this (http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/why-homes-along-arctic-coastline-are-at-risk-of-falling-into-the-ocean-1.4353728?autoplay=true).  I'm not sure if there is a requirement to live in North America.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 13, 2017, 07:15:19 pm
Does the bad news from the polar regions never cease? This time it's penguins.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41608722

PLEASE PLEASE EVERYONE - DO NOT BUY FARMED PINK FISH - the pink comes from krill feed. Every time those fish are fed a penguin chick starves to death. In the end the food becomes so scarce that the adult penguin is too thin to withstand moulting and it too starves to death.

(https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/ebay94582/ebt/images/YW60722/a1.jpg)
For Joan...
Thank you Randi - that should just about do the trick. Though I should be able to fill a bucket with tears too.

The story does include a link to a 2016 article: Penguin Watch: Public asked to aid Antarctic research (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35981212), so maybe you will have a few new volunteers ;)
Well that's the terrible, terrible thing - we've had no pictures for over 5 months now due to a technical hitch. I've got long time volunteers begging to get counting again. We'd seen an apparently sharp decline in the success rates on Goudier Island for our batch of Gentoos at 'Egg Rock' (at the end opposite the Penguin Post Office at Port Lockroy). There may be some other cause, but it's deeply depressing to watch. Adelies are much less flexible about nesting areas compared to Gentoos and so Adelies are vulnerable to relatively small changes.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Somewhere along the line we need to stop the climb of our own numbers don't we?  :-\ :-[ :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Caro on October 18, 2017, 02:28:28 pm
Here is something ... interesting:
https://www.antipodesmap.com/

Tunneling straight through the centre of the Earth would bring me out (a bit scorched I imagine) in the sea, about 500 km SE of New Zealand.
Wow. ??? :)

Note:
Antipodes Map is based on Google Maps and Bing Maps services and have a standard free usage limits until exceeding ~50,000 map loads per 24 hours.
After exceeding the free usage limits, our Antipodes Map service may not be available.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on October 18, 2017, 05:14:08 pm
About 1500 km SE of New Zealand - I'm alone and the water is so cold!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 18, 2017, 06:08:51 pm
About 3,600 km west of Tasmania.
-40.4498, 100.0705 "Watch out for sharks." :o
Cold!

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 18, 2017, 06:21:04 pm
Antipodes Location  Most likely the ocean. Watch out for sharks.  :o :o :o   Got the feeling that we will all freeze like hanibal, and additionally benefit from being eaten by sharks. I vote to stay on my side of the planet if that's OK with everyone  ;D

Coordinates: -51.820602, 178.718716 (51? 49' 14.2" S, 178? 43' 7.4" E)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on October 18, 2017, 06:21:35 pm
Somewhere between New Zealand and Antarctica - watch out for sharks for me too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Bob on October 18, 2017, 09:15:49 pm
Indian Ocean, SW of Australia, for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 18, 2017, 10:00:30 pm
There seems to be an influx of visitors to the southern oceans this year.
I am heading for the Tenerife, (well a few hundred miles to the left and the water is about 74f (23c).
34.473240, -29.574110 (34? 28' 23.7" N, 29? 34' 26.8" W)

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 18, 2017, 10:38:12 pm
Yes - I looked up Sydney and spotted Funchal just a little way off - very nice Stuart - save a bottle of Madeira for me :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on October 19, 2017, 01:27:15 am
The antipodes site shattered my long held belief - nurtured by Bugs Bunny comic books - that if you kept digging deep enough you would come out in China.  ;D  You need to begin digging in Conesa Argentina to end up in Beijing, it seems. What a let down (or up?).  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 19, 2017, 11:18:07 pm
The antipodes site shattered my long held belief - nurtured by Bugs Bunny comic books - that if you kept digging deep enough you would come out in China.  ;D  You need to begin digging in Conesa Argentina to end up in Beijing, it seems. What a let down (or up?).  :(
Hmmm - but were they right not to pay attention to Bugs Bunny, can you be sure that he's not the one that is right?  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 20, 2017, 12:43:50 am
Bugs missed the turn at Albuquerque so goodness knows where he came out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on October 20, 2017, 12:37:02 pm
 ;D

Bugs was pretty smart but I think he had a latitude attitude. He ignored the southern hemisphere. You can't blame him for not wanting to come out in mid ocean south west of Tasmania, though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on October 20, 2017, 10:12:12 pm
You can't blame him for not wanting to come out in mid ocean south west of Tasmania, though.

That'd be a devil of a place to find yourself  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 20, 2017, 11:50:23 pm
He would have to watch out for all the clippers using the Roaring 40s to speed their trip.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 20, 2017, 11:54:22 pm
You can't blame him for not wanting to come out in mid ocean south west of Tasmania, though.

That'd be a devil of a place to find yourself  ;)
:P ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on October 24, 2017, 03:08:59 am
I was watching a documentary on Sunday about a recent scientific expedition through the NW Passage which reminded me of a documentary I saw in grade school about the St. Roch, an RCMP vessel (built in Vancouver) that was the first ship to make the NW passage from West to East (1940-1942) and the first ship to make the East-West voyage in one season (1944). https://vancouvermaritimemuseum.com/permanent-exhibit/st-roch-national-historic-site

There is a very interesting e-book by Capt. Larson  that describes these voyages and there is lots of mentions of ice at specific places and times. The log books are in the Museum too (as is the ship!) but there is no indication they have been scanned. The description of the contents of the logs doesn't mention detailed weather reports but there are certainly  ice mentions. We would need a volunteer in Vancouver to go and have a look. I would be willing to capture the ice mentions in Larsen's book if Kevin is interested.

To find Larsen's e-book go here http://gutenberg.ca/index.html and search for
Quote
The North-West Passage, 1940-1942 and 1944
and then click on e-pub.

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 24, 2017, 03:46:41 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on October 24, 2017, 02:02:19 pm
What, no volunteer in Vancouver?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on October 24, 2017, 02:29:22 pm
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 24, 2017, 02:54:27 pm
What, no volunteer in Vancouver?  ;D

OK, fine. I'll drag myself over on Saturday the 4th.  ;)

It turns out that we're going over that weekend anyway for:
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on October 24, 2017, 03:00:03 pm
Well, we wouldn't want you to find yourself at a loose end ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on October 24, 2017, 03:11:14 pm
Well, we wouldn't want you to find yourself at a loose end ....

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 26, 2017, 09:27:12 pm
Today (Fri 27th Oct, 2017) is...

Cranky Co-Workers Day

Enjoy.

(https://cdn.daysoftheyear.com/wp-content/images/cranky-co-workers-day-e1447105980544-808x380.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on October 27, 2017, 03:42:17 pm
Not that we have any experience of that round here, of course .... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on October 31, 2017, 07:44:04 pm
The Life of Death (https://www.youtube.com/embed/x7vuWKWMxBI)

Quote from: Bruderfaust
This video is just telling you Carpe Diem. Seize the day. Don't live your whole life with the mindset that you're going to die someday, live your whole life with the mindset that you are going to LIVE. Every. Single. Day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on November 04, 2017, 03:02:11 am
In the site combinedfleet.com on the Imperial Japanese navy It appears the wreck of the liner Athenia the first ship sunk during WW II has been found in a sonar scan. also the wrecks of the 2 Japanese Battleships and 3 destroyers sunk in the battle of the Surigao strait in WW II have been located by sonar search.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on November 06, 2017, 09:17:50 pm
Nova on PBS has a program Killer Hurricanes" One Hurricane they discuss a great deal about is what may be the deadliest hurricane in history the October 1780 hurricane that hit the Caribean and killed over 22,000 people including a lot of HM ships and sailors. It was big 300+ miles wide  and slow moving and there was a big storm surge.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on November 10, 2017, 10:43:17 pm
Spanish and Italian speakers needed: Zooniverse Beta Testing, New Projects, and Challenges (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4705.msg147399#msg147399)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on November 15, 2017, 07:56:14 pm
The perfect cake for Joan - complete with a spinning penguin on top!
https://www.facebook.com/pg/FoodNetworkUK/videos/?ref=page_internal
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on November 15, 2017, 08:43:04 pm
Nice.
Now back to work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on November 16, 2017, 02:18:45 am
may have inspired 19th-century tales of "sea serpents." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/11/12/this-ancient-shark-with-a-snake-head-and-300-teeth-is-why-we-should-just-say-nope-to-the-ocean/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on November 16, 2017, 09:37:16 pm
The perfect cake for Joan - complete with a spinning penguin on top!
https://www.facebook.com/pg/FoodNetworkUK/videos/?ref=page_internal

Ohhhhhh - thank you Thursday Next! What a marvellous cake - the floating spinning penguin is magical  :D :D :D

I posted it on PenguinWatch :)


Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on November 16, 2017, 09:42:23 pm
may have inspired 19th-century tales of "sea serpents." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/11/12/this-ancient-shark-with-a-snake-head-and-300-teeth-is-why-we-should-just-say-nope-to-the-ocean/)

That is a very strange creature indeed. And the teeth are fearsome!  I'd believe in serpents of the deep if I saw it face-to-face :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on November 18, 2017, 09:12:52 pm
I've just been watching an interesting weather programme on Channel 4 - Volatile Earth: Killer Hurricanes.  A good part of the programme was about a very large hurricane in the Caribbean in 1780, and one of the researchers was making a lot of use of ship's logs in order to try to work out its magnitude and path.  If you can find it online, you might be interested (and cheering inside at yet another use for ship's logs, as I was).
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on November 23, 2017, 06:33:28 pm
Watch NASA?s mesmerizing new visualization of the 2017 hurricane season (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/watch-nasas-mesmerizing-new-visualization-2017-hurricane-season)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on November 24, 2017, 12:13:38 am
 :o :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on November 24, 2017, 02:31:37 am
Thanksgiving's hidden past: Plymouth in 1621 wasn't close to being the first celebration (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/11/22/thanksgivings-hidden-past-plymouth-in-1621-wasnt-close-to-being-the-first-celebration/)

How the Civil War Created Thanksgiving (https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/25/how-the-civil-war-created-thanksgiving/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on November 26, 2017, 04:00:13 pm
For the first time ever - the Royal Navy has been responsible for changing the guard outside Buckingham Palace.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42129729/sailors-perform-changing-the-guard-in-historic-first
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on November 26, 2017, 06:15:22 pm
8) 8) 8)

Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42126693
The change in personnel is to mark 2017 as the "Year of the Navy", which former defence secretary Sir Michael Fallon called "the start of a new era of maritime power".
High time!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on November 27, 2017, 02:47:07 am
Why Lost Ice Means Lost Hope for an Inuit Village (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/25/climate/arctic-climate-change.html)


http://www.geonames.org/6947098/rigolet.html
http://www4.rncan.gc.ca/search-place-names/unique/AATJW
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on November 27, 2017, 08:42:20 pm
Why Lost Ice Means Lost Hope for an Inuit Village


Oh my goodness - that's a sad as sad can be  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on November 27, 2017, 08:50:39 pm
For the first time ever - the Royal Navy has been responsible for changing the guard outside Buckingham Palace.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42129729/sailors-perform-changing-the-guard-in-historic-first

On a similar note. The Mods had to pull it because it was advertising but I'm told if you go to YouTube & Search 'casual friday at buckingham palace' you will see a slightly different version.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on November 28, 2017, 05:24:29 pm
For the first time ever - the Royal Navy has been responsible for changing the guard outside Buckingham Palace.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42129729/sailors-perform-changing-the-guard-in-historic-first

On a similar note. The Mods had to pull it because it was advertising but I'm told if you go to YouTube & Search 'casual friday at buckingham palace' you will see a slightly different version.  ::)

Love it - they ditch the Royal Yacht and then ask the Navy to guard the Palace. Only in the UK could it happen  :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on November 30, 2017, 12:16:03 am
Looking for a bit of IT help. My screen suddenly reduced to about two-thirds of normal size yesterday. Then it came back but looks really woolly and my full size screen seems to be a bit bigger than my laptop screen. I did a big update on Windows 10 today and hoped that the problem would clear up - but no luck. I spotted some comment about a windows driver possibly being bad. Anyone got any ideas please? I've tried going into screen control and messing around with settings, but no luck :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on November 30, 2017, 12:26:40 am
I wish I could help, but this is beyond my level of expertise.  :-[ :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on November 30, 2017, 12:35:08 am
It looks like the Argentine Submarine ARA San Juan is lost with all hands. On board was their navy's first female submarine officer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on November 30, 2017, 12:58:36 am
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on November 30, 2017, 07:32:06 am
Looking at the main OW web page it seems we have done 101% of the log book.

Well Done everybody   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on November 30, 2017, 08:48:18 am
Looking at the main OW web page it seems we have done 101% of the log book.

Well Done everybody   ;D
Wow!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on November 30, 2017, 09:54:54 am
You have all achieved the impossible!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on November 30, 2017, 01:31:29 pm
Not naval but definitely weather.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42175307

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on November 30, 2017, 02:51:37 pm
Not naval but definitely weather.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42175307
8) and Philip gets a mention!

I did a little bit on the Ben Nevis records but found it a rather dull (and that wasn't just the weather conditions ::)). Even several months at Mare Island was more interesting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on November 30, 2017, 04:47:47 pm
Looking for a bit of IT help. My screen suddenly reduced to about two-thirds of normal size yesterday. Then it came back but looks really woolly and my full size screen seems to be a bit bigger than my laptop screen. I did a big update on Windows 10 today and hoped that the problem would clear up - but no luck. I spotted some comment about a windows driver possibly being bad. Anyone got any ideas please? I've tried going into screen control and messing around with settings, but no luck :(

I'm afraid I can't help either. The best option might be to take it to a shop.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on November 30, 2017, 06:06:53 pm
Not naval but definitely weather.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42175307

I saw something a couple of weeks ago that said someone is wanting to do the same with old paper records from the Canadian Weather Service. I can't remember the details and OW is taking all my time in any case...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on November 30, 2017, 06:10:52 pm
Looking for a bit of IT help. My screen suddenly reduced to about two-thirds of normal size yesterday. Then it came back but looks really woolly and my full size screen seems to be a bit bigger than my laptop screen. I did a big update on Windows 10 today and hoped that the problem would clear up - but no luck. I spotted some comment about a windows driver possibly being bad. Anyone got any ideas please? I've tried going into screen control and messing around with settings, but no luck :(

I'm afraid I can't help either. The best option might be to take it to a shop.

You could try going back to the last system checkpoint before the problem began, Joan. Not sure where that is on W10.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on November 30, 2017, 07:18:24 pm
I wonder if it is a hardware problem?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on November 30, 2017, 10:42:59 pm
I'm afraid I can't help either. The best option might be to take it to a shop.

Thanks for your thoughts about the screen folks. I haven't had a lot of time to research it just yet. I do fear some hardware problem. It just has the look of using some back-up technology though that seems weird given it's a laptop so not much room to play with  :-\

I'll try to get more time to play with it on Sunday. It's useable but not pretty. :)

Lots to read here today  :D

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It looks like the Argentine Submarine ARA San Juan is lost with all hands. On board was their navy's first female submarine officer.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Looking at the main OW web page it seems we have done 101% of the log book.
Well Done everybody   ;D
;D ;D ;D We are that good!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Not naval but definitely weather.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42175307

 ;D ;D ;D The Zooniverse does it again!

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on December 01, 2017, 03:28:01 pm
Laptops Are Great. But Not During a Lecture or a Meeting. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/business/laptops-not-during-lecture-or-meeting.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on December 01, 2017, 08:37:04 pm
Laptops Are Great. But Not During a Lecture or a Meeting. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/business/laptops-not-during-lecture-or-meeting.html)

On the other hand, the blue light given off by the screen helps keep you awake ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on December 01, 2017, 09:04:57 pm
Laptops Are Great. But Not During a Lecture or a Meeting. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/business/laptops-not-during-lecture-or-meeting.html)

On the other hand, the blue light given off by the screen helps keep you awake ...

Which is a helpful thing when transcribing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on December 02, 2017, 12:25:52 am
As a 'two fingered typist' I'll stick to pen & paper!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on December 02, 2017, 01:46:35 am
If you need something light to make you smile or even laugh, I suggest this short audio clip. Last year CBC had a program called Adults reading things they wrote as kids. This (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KwQ0qdTL7CrG47yvIKsgEFkInJDl7osj) is one lady reading her short story called Cats which she wrote in Grade 1.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on December 02, 2017, 02:12:08 am
I like cats!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 02, 2017, 07:19:51 pm
I like cats,
They are more fun than hats,
A hat on your lap
doesn't purr like a cat
And that's that  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on December 03, 2017, 09:59:14 am
I did it.
Last night, I finished my stream on the Albatross 1900, and since Maikel would rather do the Yorktown himself, I have decided to let him do just that.

So that's it. I'm done with OW Classic for good.
Wow... this is quite something. I first joined back in October 2010, just a few weeks after the project had been launched - over seven years ago!
I can remember doing my first few pages on the Bee, and messing it up because I couldn't figure out what to transcribe as location - they only mentioned some wharf, not a town or anything (I later went back and corrected these pages).
But I learned pretty fast, so I kept going, and I began to like it. A lot. It felt great to be contributing something to the world like this.

So I stuck with the project for a very long time. When I started out, I was an 11th grade student, still more child than man in terms of maturity and emotional development.
But I kept doing OW all through school and graduation, I kept doing it during the gap year that followed, I kept doing it during my college course, and I kept doing it while working my first real job.

I've learned a lot of valuable lessons from this time, too. The first was how to be more sociable, to come out of your shell and open up. I had a huge problem with that, but the forum felt like a safe place, where I could do it without needing to worry about what could go wrong.
And I was right - by gradually reaching out to a select few via PM and Skype, I became more self-confident, and made some wonderful online friendships. It's great.
I've also learned some important stuff about forum etiquette (Thanks mods!), using tools such as AutoHotKey to make your life easier, and not letting success and admiration go to your head. That last one was a bit harsh, but I needed it.

Not sure what I will do next. Michael has been talking to me about Ice Hunting, so I think I will check that out, see what it's like.
In the meantime, I just wanted to give a BIG thank you to everybody here, especially Dean, Craig, Randi, Joan, Rosemary, Michael, Helen and Stuart.
This community has become very important to me over the past few years, and I am very proud to be part of it.
So because of this, one thing is certain: No matter which project I end up working on next, I will stay here and continue to participate in activities, such as the word games, the Dockside Gallery, maybe even another round of Shipopoly if other people are up for it.

Thanks again,


Hanibal94
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: studentforever on December 03, 2017, 11:43:29 am
It's been great knowing you. I think we've all enjoyed seeing you 'grow up' and become a more confident, socially aware young man who is now making his own way in the world. We've also received help from you, especially with IT problems. You have been willing to share your growing expertise and patient with those, like me, who grew up in the era of slide rules and manual typewriters. There are rumours of new projects coming up and you will always be welcome while the forum is running. Good luck for the future and hope to 'see' you around.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on December 03, 2017, 02:12:35 pm
That's quite a landmark to reach.  I'm so glad you found OW seven years ago and decided to stick around; it's been good to have you here, to see you grow and change and achieve and contribute. 
Whatever you do next, I hope you'll drop in here and do the things only you can do.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on December 03, 2017, 08:01:51 pm
You dun good Hanibal.

I hope your peers appreciate your dedication to a task as we have.
It will be interesting to see which new OW project you choose.
Go and put your feet up, have a drink of what ever takes your fancy and enjoy the festive season.

Regards
Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on December 03, 2017, 08:19:27 pm
Looked at the Whaling page for the first time just now.
Any ship that has been started that need a worker on?
I do not want to see everybody doing one ship each and none getting finished.
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on December 03, 2017, 08:46:31 pm
Joan may be able to tell you, or Bob may be able to dig up that information.

You could simply click on TRANSCRIBE at the top of the page.

Or pick any ship, click Mark, and page through it till you get an unmarked page.


Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 03, 2017, 09:17:50 pm
Looked at the Whaling page for the first time just now.
Any ship that has been started that need a worker on?
I do not want to see everybody doing one ship each and none getting finished.


Yes yes yes yes Stuart!  Thanks Randi for dropping me an extra note. Stuart you are very welcome indeed!  back in a minute or two with info. Plenty of third transcribers needed, there are some people working on ships but the sad system over there cannot say which. I've asked those who wrote in for help to say what they are working on, but it's not great doing things that way as I don't always get a reply :( Anyway...there's plenty that still need two more markers/transcribers.

Back shortly :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on December 03, 2017, 09:18:47 pm
When I tried marking is there any way I can skip having to go Next for each item on the page.
Perhaps a button that says this page is complete. ?
Also standardising the location of the Next button would help in that situation.

where is the forum page for the whalers comments?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 03, 2017, 09:29:04 pm
Hi Stuart,
Yep - just getting stuff together for you. Here's the list of what I know has been done:

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/157/411809

Baylies1887 I'm just doing - it's a bit of a stinker due to a lack of ink (sigh!).

Here's the address of the shipyard. Nearly every ship got a page that has a description, and a fully marked page shown and fully transcribed, the shown fully marked.

More in a minute...:)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Pommy Stuart on December 03, 2017, 09:50:55 pm
How do you know if you are 1st, 2nd or 3rd?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 03, 2017, 09:51:04 pm
Okay California 1892 is needy of any transcription.

The very best way to start is simply to select the ship on the front screen and click the box 'mark'. The reason for this is that it gets you into the ship and you can select the page (middle icon top left of image).  The first two pages are usually just Library card pages - require not marking at all.

Go to page 3 of California 1892 and you'll get a real log book page. This log is pretty easy going - lots of good ink and script. Here's her shipyard page where I've noted some of the places she went to as she hit the Russian coast:  https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/157/363142

Basically we nip over to our Geographical help here, but any weird things I always put on the Comments and Questions pages for Whaling.

So you now have two choices:

First option: Mark it yourself (third icon on the left hides other people's marks so you can see the text properly). Then transcribe each page as you do it (see selection bottom right of image). Best method is this one. You have the whole thing in your mind as you do it.

Second option. Ask to mark, and when you get to your page select two things. 1) Select 'discuss this page' (bottom right of image) and read it in the 'Notes' page that comes up. Then go back to the log book itself and say 'transcribe this page'. That way you know what's coming up and you get to follow things in sequence.

Third option: Just select 'transcribe' when you select your boat - you get random offerings throughout the log book.

Worst option: When you open Whaling select 'mark' or 'transcribe' - you get a random set of offerings from any ship.

Marking tips: Be patient - it can take 20 seconds for a page to come up and you'll nearly always see the first library page as it works out where you left off and takes you back there.
Be patient - if you mark boxes within 20 seconds of opening a page they disappear. But not for good. When you go to transcribe they reappear.

If you see some terrible marking you can transcribe it as 'bad image' and the whole box and any associated transcriptions are deleted.

there's one more thing that's very useful to know - and it just popped out of my head!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 03, 2017, 10:00:26 pm
How do you know if you are 1st, 2nd or 3rd?

Ever heard of miracles?  ::) ::) ::)
There is no system. That's why I set up that Shipyard page in the hope of knowing that we wouldn't be wasting our time.
The system should know when 3 people have marked it. And that's weird because 1) it's not sure of that, 2) you don't need to anything more than mark it once. Then all three transcriptions are of those marks. You don't need any more marks if the first set are good.

In theory when the page is marked and you get to the end of the questions, if three people say 'no' to the last question (is there anything left to mark?) the page should be retired. I never managed to get that to work.

Ah the thing I forgot is that when you transcribe a page it only lets you transcribe nine marked boxes at one go. Then it takes you back to the page (after several seconds etc) and you hit 'transcribe this page' until your through transcribing all boxes. Sigh again !
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 03, 2017, 10:05:55 pm
And also if you see some badly marked boxes you can usually delete them before even starting to transcribe.

Catch up with you over there - I'm 'OW_Moderators' at the moment  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 03, 2017, 10:49:39 pm
Sorry Stuart - it's hit 11pm and I have to scoot to bed - early start tomorrow for work. Hope you've got off to a good start with Whaling :D 
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on December 03, 2017, 11:48:59 pm
That's quite a landmark to reach.  I'm so glad you found OW seven years ago and decided to stick around; it's been good to have you here, to see you grow and change and achieve and contribute. 
Whatever you do next, I hope you'll drop in here and do the things only you can do.
Hi Hanibal,

Forgive the slow replay but I have been away for the weekend, visiting sisters.

Well done!!!

Seven years, wow, and millions of WRs transcribed. You have been a most valuable contributor to the OW project, and you have become a good friend, too. We are all better for coming to know you, and I'm glad you'll still be around on the forum.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on December 04, 2017, 09:04:02 am
Well done, Hanibal, and best wishes for whatever you do in the future. Do keep visiting the Forum!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on December 04, 2017, 06:38:55 pm
I add my congratulations, Hanibal. I can understand how the forum has helped you because I went through somewhat similar difficulties, which I finally overcame in Toastmasters. We were lucky to have a club in the government department where I worked. The people were very supportive like in our forum. I went on to perform in a play put on by people at work, something I could never have imagined doing previously. (I couldn't do it now because my memory is getting so bad  ;D). So, with perseverance and the support of others we can do amazing things.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 04, 2017, 09:11:30 pm

This community has become very important to me over the past few years, and I am very proud to be part of it.

Hanibal94

Oh gosh I'm so sorry that I didn't spot this yesterday hanibal - forgive me!  :o
I am so so happy that you have been with us hanibal!  :D As much as you've received from us, you've more than given to us too. I'll be very pleased if you do stay with us, you would leave a very large empty hole if you left us now. I hope that you get into ice-hunting then.

Thanks for your wonderful words. What ever you decide to do you'll do it well I am very sure of that.

Joan :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on December 05, 2017, 05:45:18 pm
Hanibal:

Sorry this is so late. I have been '504 Timed Out' for the last three days!

It has been an honor & a pleasure to work with you and to meet and know you. I have enjoyed our SKYPE talks and hope that maybe we can continue them now that I have a new computer that will SKYPE properly.

God's Blessings as you move on in your life.

Remember your Friends here and take great comfort in the work that you have done here to further Science and Understanding!

Visit if you can!

Be well.

Blessings,  Dean

Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on December 06, 2017, 12:17:24 am
Hanibal94,

I'm late too, mainly because I am not very good at this kind of thing :-[ :-[ :-[
(I have had some 504's, but I have been able to work)

I think I joined OW about the same time you did, and I had much the same feelings (but not the same transcribing speed ;)).

You have made a great contribution to science during those years.

I can also see how much you have grown over the years. I have enjoyed our PM exchanges very much, although I am afraid that I am a very poor correspondent.

I hope that we can talk you into doing Ice Hunting. You could always blaze through the course and distance entries and leave the ice to the events people!

(http://orig11.deviantart.net/dc58/f/2015/118/4/8/rainbow_dash_vector__tanks_for_the_memories__by_sol_republica-d8rgenv.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on December 06, 2017, 05:01:24 pm
100 years ago today the world's largest non-nuclear explosion occurred when the S. S. Mont Blanc, a Belgian ammunition ship, blew up in Halifax harbour (http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-december-06-2017-1.4433556/it-s-part-of-the-dna-of-haligonians-100-years-after-the-halifax-explosion-1.4433619). 2,000 people died and 9,000 were injured.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on December 06, 2017, 06:45:38 pm
The German Amateurs Who Discovered 'Insect Armageddon' (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/world/europe/krefeld-germany-insect-armageddon.html)

Remind you of another group? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 06, 2017, 09:19:34 pm
100 years ago today the world's largest non-nuclear explosion occurred when the S. S. Mont Blanc, a Belgian ammunition ship, blew up in Halifax harbour (http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-december-06-2017-1.4433556/it-s-part-of-the-dna-of-haligonians-100-years-after-the-halifax-explosion-1.4433619). 2,000 people died and 9,000 were injured.

 :o :o :o  I've never heard of it. If I'd been alive then I would probably have heard it (let alone heard of it). That is a very dramatic explosion!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 06, 2017, 10:37:50 pm
The German Amateurs Who Discovered 'Insect Armageddon' (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/world/europe/krefeld-germany-insect-armageddon.html)

Remind you of another group? ;)

Yep - sure does :D  - all we need then is to work out how to make more of both of us.  I heard this terrible story at work the other day - it frightens me for sure.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on December 08, 2017, 09:30:18 pm
Thank you for the nice comments, everyone!

I have been messaging with Michael and Randi about Ice Hunting. It does sound very interesting, but since it is still in development, I think I will wait until it's ready to go.
In the meantime, I will be working on Notes from Nature. That one's been my secondary project for a long time, and it does have some very interesting expeditions.

But I will still visit this forum every day like always, and keep an eye on the Ice Hunting discussion.
Until then,


- Hanibal94
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Dean on December 09, 2017, 12:24:41 am
Thank you for the nice comments, everyone!

I have been messaging with Michael and Randi about Ice Hunting. It does sound very interesting, but since it is still in development, I think I will wait until it's ready to go.
In the meantime, I will be working on Notes from Nature. That one's been my secondary project for a long time, and it does have some very interesting expeditions.

But I will still visit this forum every day like always, and keep an eye on the Ice Hunting discussion.
Until then,


- Hanibal94

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 09, 2017, 01:11:46 am
Thank you for the nice comments, everyone!

But I will still visit this forum every day like always, and keep an eye on the Ice Hunting discussion.
Until then,

- Hanibal94

 ;D ;D ;D that's good news for us Hanibal
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on December 09, 2017, 08:52:03 pm
Hi all,

Joan and I would like to do another round of Shipopoly, (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4338.0) but we need at least one more person.
Any volunteers?
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on December 09, 2017, 09:52:02 pm
Hi all,

Joan and I would like to do another round of Shipopoly, (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4338.0) but we need at least one more person.
Any volunteers?

I would like too, but I am swamped with getting this ice thing going as well as trying to get Northwind finished for Kevin. He has deadlines...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 09, 2017, 10:09:22 pm
I'll try to sign up Turquoise_Turtle (new here). I think she'll come with such a temptation :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on December 10, 2017, 12:08:57 am
I'll try to sign up Turquoise_Turtle (new here). I think she'll come with such a temptation :D

She does have an account - as Turquoise Turtle

I have contacted one possible player ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 10, 2017, 12:27:34 am
Ah - I thought she did - thanks Randi - I asked and got a 'yes' :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on December 13, 2017, 05:02:00 pm
Movie alert:
Russel Crowe is talking of making another of the Aubrey-Maturin series for those who liked the movie "Master and Commander"

AMC has a mini series in the works "The Terror" a novel about the Franklin Expedition
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Hanibal94 on December 14, 2017, 08:10:32 pm
While catching up on IT news, I found out about the following site: http://botnik.org/

Quote
Botnik is a community of writers, artists and developers collaborating with machines to create strange new things.

"Strange new things" is a good way of putting it - in fact, a lot of their stuff is just hilariously absurd.

For example:
A new chapter of Harry Potter (http://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html)
Halloween tips (http://botnik.org/content/halloween.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on December 15, 2017, 01:18:59 am
USCGC Northwind, 20 August 1955

70 26.8N   147 42.8W

Quote
1543 USNS Gammon commenced discharging fuel oil (Navy Special) into the sea to lighten ship.

Those were the days when you could dump stuff in the ocean and get away with it.  ;D ;D ;D

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23655480/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/0002/Northwind-WAG-282-b742/Northwind-WAG-282-b742_0187.JPG
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 15, 2017, 02:12:52 am
USCGC Northwind, 20 August 1955

70 26.8N   147 42.8W

Quote
1543 USNS Gammon commenced discharging fuel oil (Navy Special) into the sea to lighten ship.

Those were the days when you could dump stuff in the ocean and get away with it.  ;D ;D ;D

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23655480/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/0002/Northwind-WAG-282-b742/Northwind-WAG-282-b742_0187.JPG

Yikes!!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: mapurves on December 15, 2017, 06:14:47 pm
The following pages are quite interesting. They discharged 910 tons of oil, with other discharges mentioned. They also tried several times to use TNT to free the tow wire from the ice. They had to patch a hole in her hull etc. I had to quit transcribing last night before finding out if they got her free.
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Thursday Next on December 15, 2017, 08:24:13 pm
The Comedy Wildlife Photography Awards 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-42370195
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: jil on December 15, 2017, 09:26:09 pm
;D - great photos!
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Randi on December 15, 2017, 09:31:20 pm
Great!!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Craig on December 16, 2017, 12:29:20 am
Very good!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: AvastMH on December 16, 2017, 02:04:25 am
Magnificent  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2017
Post by: Helen J on December 16, 2017, 04:02:46 pm
Those are great - thank you!