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Dockside Cafe / Chat - 2016
« on: January 01, 2016, 06:18:54 am »
I'm back, having toasted 2016 in with Times Square, and then finished playing games with family.  The rolling midnight line is proving mild and happy - I'd recommend staying dry and drinking a similar toast to welcome it.  ;)

Geographical Help / help for a whaling ship please...
« on: December 22, 2015, 05:55:01 pm »
...mostly for my own curiosity.

This is SS Congress 1864,

On June 9th they are at Lat 40 34 N, Long 56 42 W
On June 10th they are at Lat 40 52 N, Long unknown
On June 11th they are at "San Obscure"

On June 14th they are at Lat 41 49, Long unknown

Does anyone have an idea where San Obscure is?

NASA podcasts on a new weather satellite system, handled by NASA, NOAA and Air Force.  :)

Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera

From NASA Earth's Facebook page.

NASA Earth
What Happens in the Arctic Doesn't Stay in the Arctic - a live-streamed event from COP21 in Paris
Thursday, December 10 @ 9:45AM EST / 3:45PM CET / 2:45PM GMT
Watch here:

Technical Support / Individual computer problems in Whaling...
« on: November 19, 2015, 05:26:52 am »
Could someone with a better understanding of why individual computers may be getting stuck please look at LarryW's problems?

November 18th 2015, 5:33 pm
Still having the same problem. A page with no markings comes up. I click 'yes' to mark dates, then click 'next' and it goes right to the final question. No matter what answer I click it goes right to the next page and the same thing happens all over again. It never allows you to mark anything. I have tried three different browsers - Safari, Firefox, & Chrome - they all do the same thing. I was doing some marking about a week ago and it worked fine, but the last few days not so much. The transcribing module seems to work, so I have been doing that....Thanks

November 18th 2015, 11:22 pm
Hi LarryW,
The only problem I'm seeing now is that the 'classify' link on this Talk site gives me a blank screen. If I start at the Home page, the interface seems quite normal and I was able to box all 5 dates on the first unmarked page. I'll ask if we can get some computer-savvy advice for you here.

Technical Support / OW5 under construction...
« on: October 27, 2015, 11:58:41 pm »

Yes - they have removed the new Panoptes Old Weather while they work to squash bugs. 
Meanwhile, the OW front page at is currently directed instead of the newest landing page.

If you wish to go to Old Weather: Classic, go to:

Sending our devs our good wishes that this gets worked out, and thank them for their efforts.

Learning the Ropes & FAQ / Help on amending old reference lists please...
« on: October 05, 2015, 06:12:26 pm »
We moderators are needing and amending all of our reference posts to enlarge them to include Whaling.  Which brought up the idea, maybe we should also reorganize.  All four of the posts I've been mostly responsible were written in 2010 and 2012 (although all updated this year) and appeared when there was need.  So the question is, should any of them be merged?

Randi is taking over the Glossary I started and really wants there to be only one document, merging it with OWpedia possibly.  So the only question there is:
Should the new terms unique to whaling (and not just sailing) be in their own section so as to be read by newbies in whaling to take in all the vocabulary or should it all be just one alphabetical list?
I'm not the one doing this so I want won't make the decisions, but I'm interested is what you all would find easier to use. 

As to the the posts I've been authoring or maintaining, I really cannot see a simple enough way to truly merge any into a single flowing document - too much going on learning how to moderate Talk.  So mergers will be assembled in titled sections or chapters, which in Talk cannot have separate links.  (Reply posts are never assigned their own links in that platform.)  I'm primarily concerned with two things:
  • Reducing clutter and condensing the number of titles to look for
  • Preventing each topic from getting so long and complex, newbies won't think to scroll down to read the second list that's added on to the first.

The four lists are:
Beaufort Weather Code Charts (this one will be reformatted)
Reading Wind
Cloud Types Listed
and the only non-weather one:
Sea Ice Types

Which of these would you find easier to use if merged into singe post?  And which one would you like to have right on top?  Thinking a bit like newbies if you can.

Thank you very much.

Here is an article from NPR that someone forwarded to me. Its not about OW specifically, but about the remarkable enterprise we are all engaged in.

Thanks, Kevin.  I like this one, it speaks with some optimism.

Five news releases from NASA today are all related to OW.  More than a bit scary.

NASA: Glacial Rebound: The Not So Solid Earth

And this one is related, we are getting the Greenland WW2 arctic patrol ships eventually.
NASA's OMG Mission Maps Greenland's Coastline.

Warming Seas and Melting Ice Sheets

NASA Zeroes in on Ocean Rise: How Much? How Soon?

The Fingerprints of Sea Level Rise

The Dockyard / Problem with DANFS links...
« on: May 28, 2015, 05:08:36 pm »
I know this is slightly off topic for this board, but I think this board is the only one where it is relevant.  (Randi, move it to a different board if you like.)  And the problem might be massive here.  Kevin is trying to contact NHHC to see how they might be able to help us, so we might want to wait a bit.  Or not.  The NHN history sites will eventually be updated by NHN team, meaning Maikel, but we are waiting for Kevin's feedback. 


The Naval Heritage and History Command has entirely redesigned its website, and every single url we have used has changed.
NHHC home page used to be:
NHHC home page now is:

DANFS used to be:
DANFS now is:

Individual ship example the Concord was:
Individual ship example Concord now is:
and its photography section was:
its photography section now apparently doesn't exist, as they have no collection that includes gunboats and no search function for ships that fall thru the cracks.

A very interesting and careful write-up, from NASA's Facebook.  Didn't mention us, unfortunately, being written before our time.
NASA: Sea Ice

And on interesting history on YouTube, a link from the same FB post:
NASA: A Selective History of Sea Ice Observations

...on Gordon's site.  These pages have been on our Helpful Links to Outside Information reference for some time, but Gordon just added more than 1,400 hired steam and motor drifters to the list.  Please look on these pages if you are trying to identify any British naval or auxiliary ship from the WW1 era.  It's a remarkable piece of work.

WW1 Royal Navy Ships:

sean0118 now owns this old photo, and asked me to put it up for the forum to see. So here it is.  :)

also posted in the Editorial Office.

The Logs and FAQ / Clyde Built Ships is back up!!!
« on: January 02, 2014, 12:22:06 am »
One of our prime sources for civilian and hired trawlers and others was down for quite a while, but the new owner just emailed me and it is back up and in business again.

Just a follow-up to our earlier emails to say that the new Clyde Ships database is now up and running at

The new site?s records contain quite a bit of extra information relating to the vessels, although there are number of entries that are still being updated with the new information. The good news is that this site has now been registered as a charitable trust (Clyde Maritime Research Trust) so its future is much more secure than the former Clydesite-based database (it is still online but unlikely to be updated much more).

Additionally there is a subforum for the database at where queries and other information can be posted.

Hope that?s of some help to your researchers.


Stuart McMahon
ClydeMaritime, Site Admin

Reference Desk / Linking transcriptions to Wiki articles
« on: December 18, 2013, 02:40:51 am »
In summary, these are the templates explained below.
Once the instructions are worked through once, the templates by themselves will be pretty much self-explanatory.

Create an external links section

==External links==

Linking transcriptions to Wiki articles

* {{Cite web | title = Royal Navy Log Books - HMS Argonaut
| accessdate = 2014-01-15
| url = http;//
}} transcription of ship's logbooks August 1914 to September 1915

Including ship names linked to other Wiki articles

{{HMS|ship-name|disambiguation date/pennant|6}}
      - the 6 in the final field renders as "HMS ship-name"

{{HMS|ship-name|disambiguation date/pennant|2}}
       - the 2 in the final field renders as "ship-name" (ie without "HMS")

       - you have no idea what the disambiguation date might be

Making a reference for edited content  good only for British ships

* {{Old Weather | url = http;//
 | vessel = HMS Inflexible
 | day = 7th and 8th | month = December | year= 1914
  The Inflexible's ship log and captain's after action report have been transcribed and are available at this link.

<ref>HMS Inflexible ship's log and after action report.</ref>

This is meant for a short cut for all editors who want to link their transcriptions to corresponding Wikipedia articles.  The coding and placement have been vetted by Wiki moderator Shem1805.  Thanks to hard work by our Kathy Wendolk, our material is considered "encyclopedic"; we can use our logs as references for article content, and the transcription pages can be attached as "external links" to any relevant article.  Both the jpeg links for individual log pages and the vessel page(s) on are acceptable.  Any of our forum posts are not - all forums are too changeable and uncontrollable for their standards.

If you wish to write an article or edit current articles with our material, Wiki has tutorials and an article Wizard.  For sure you need to learn how to correctly reference any added content.  This was my formal welcome to Wiki.  It was more complete than I wanted to do, but it is very helpful.

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Shem

The following posts are each intended to be narrow instructions for a single action.  In theory, if an editor wants to do only that, they will be able to copy/past the original templates at the start of the instructions and use them without having to learn the whole Wiki tutorials.

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