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Whalers' Shipyard / Ice reports from Whaling logs
« on: July 25, 2017, 08:07:48 pm »
I've found some interesting ice reports in the current logs. Some have good reports of location.

Kevin, would you like an indication of those reports please?  For example: a page from Belvedere 1904 (lamentably only 14 pages long - is that correct I wonder?)
https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/80d116b5-76a9-49af-a18a-2cd15c076023.jpeg reads like this:



The writer is clearly thoughtful about the ice and even provides the location.
It would be easy enough to preen through these logs to look for this sort of ice indication.

I'll pm this to you as well.

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Whalers' Shipyard / Belvedere handwriting
« on: July 23, 2017, 12:15:07 pm »
Hello - can anyone help with the highlighted word please?



Here's the full page link: https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/d7b9c952-bbb1-4012-ad19-6d0f83ec2d53.jpeg
The ship is the Belvedere in 1894

I was expecting something like starboard, or port, or bow, or stern, or waist boat to describe which of their hunting boats made the strike.

Thanks!

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Just in case anyone is able to help with the following enquiry (already sent to Philip and Kevin)  :) If you have any good ideas please do let me know. :)

I had an interesting email from Nathalie Schaller who worked in my department at work:

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Thanks for replying so quickly Joan!
Let me know if you find a Norwegian participant, but else I think it would be very interesting also if you could tell a few things about ships in the Arctic and even better along the coast of Norway/Spitzbergen? Or maybe there were Norwegian ships? I think if we had a ?Norwegian? connection from these two British citizen science projects, it would make the article interesting to people here, they are very proud :-) Of course I can also ask myself on the forum if that is easier. Let me know. Nathalie.

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From: Joan Arthur [mailto:joan.arthur@ouce.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: 22. juni 2017 15:33
To: Nathalie Schaller <nathalie.schaller@cicero.oslo.no>
Subject: RE: Little question about oldweather

Dear Nathalie,
How nice to hear from you again.
Not sure that we have any Norwegians on OW ? but let me ask tonight and I'll get back to you.
Best wishes,
Joan
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From: Nathalie Schaller [mailto:nathalie.schaller@cicero.oslo.no]
Sent: 22 June 2017 08:59
To: Joan Arthur
Subject: Little question about oldweather

Hi Joan,

I don't know if you remember me, I can as a visiting research to Myles Allen's group four years ago, and I now work in Norway, at CICERO. We are asked to write little articles for the public from time to time and I wanted to write about weather@home (with which I worked) and potentially about oldweather too. If I remember correctly, you are quite involved in the later. We thought it would be nice to have a few quotes from participants, and especially it would be fantastic if we could find a Norwegian participant. I just wondered if you knew someone that I could ask?

Many thanks in advance for your help!
Nathalie

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Caro has already replied (it was me that edited Acacia  ;) ::) ;D) :

I don't know of any Norwegians among the transcribers or editors.
From memory, the WWI ship that had some involvement with Spitzbergen was, er,  HMS Acacia.  ;) There may be others.
Norway was neutral, officially, so RN ships tended to stay outside Norwegian waters.
A few went close.

You might want to look at HMS India.
I added this at the end of the log:
While on duty intercepting and inspecting neutral shipping, HMS India was torpedoed by German submarine U22 near Helligvaer, Norway, on August 8, 1915.
The ship broke in two and sank quickly.
A list of the 160 (reported numbers vary) men who died, together with a list of the survivors, can be found here.
According to information contained in The National Archives documents ADM 1/8429/227 and ADM 116/1440, some of the survivors were taken to Narvik by SS Gotaland and HMT Saxon; others went ashore at Helligvaer in the ship's boats. The men landed by SS Gotaland were allowed to return to the UK but the rest were interned.
HMT Saxon was allowed to leave the neutral port of Narvik within 24 hours. Commander Kennedy of HMS India was offered the chance to sail with her but chose to stay with his men. The dead were buried in Narvik cemetery.

The following is an account of a survivor of the sinking. http://afterwork101.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/my-grandfathers-bath/.

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Ice Hunting / Cold War Group: Atka - Where was this ship?
« on: June 17, 2017, 02:33:54 pm »
For this set of records we need very simple information for a first pass.

Tracking Arctic journeys:
We need to know which log books contain journeys to the Arctic, in the Arctic, or from the Arctic, including, unusually, those made during winter months.
Kevin has suggested that we consider anything beyond 55 N as being in the Arctic. However, it appears that 45 N may be a better choice for the Atlantic; please use that for now.

Purpose:
Our long-range goal is to map the edge of the Arctic ice both in the Atlantic and in the Pacific.
Our short-range goal is to locate the useful log books so that we can go back for more details.
Kevin has asked if we can break the work down in this way.

Ship's logs:
Note that in some cases the Deck Log -- Title Page or a similar page will tell you where the ship started and finished.
In this case, it appears unlikely that the ship was in the Arctic, but it may be worth looking at a page in the middle of the log book.

Other sources:
You can also look through these references to see if a list of the journeys has already been transcribed:
Atka (AGB-3) DANFS and Old Weather-NHN from 10/1/1950 to 12/1/1955

Details to report:
1) The year, the months when your ship was on a journey to the Arctic, in the Arctic, or on its way home from the Arctic, and whether it was in the Atlantic or Pacific.
2) If your log has a page specifying the journeys or you found a list elsewhere, please report that finding.
3) There is no need to record the presence or absence of ice.

Below is the list of logs.
Pop a note in this topic to offer to take a set of logs, and then post your results in this topic as well.

It's as simple as that at this stage. Thank you.

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UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Welcome to Bear (1916) and a new phase of Old Weather.

As before, this topic is for asking questions and sharing information.
Now it will also be used to help coordinate transcriptions as we develop the new system.



Link to log books:
Link to first page of log books



You may find some useful background information in Bear -- Reference: Transcription Example and Log Description.
However the transcribing instructions no longer apply.

Helpful sources:

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The Bear is on a government reindeer herd inspection run during late July 1914, a serious matter for feeding the Inuit. However the following entry from 28th July 1914



'6.15 Launch left vessel for Reindeer Camp at Immaruck [modern day Imuruk] Basin, so that government herd can be inspected by Mr. Shields, Supt. of Schools'

gave me an amusing idea...

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Technical Support / Where have the ship maps gone on Classic OW?
« on: October 27, 2015, 08:33:27 pm »
The ship voyage maps have gone :(
Who do I need to contact to get them sorted please?  :)

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Announcing the start of a whole new adventure: OldWeather: Whaling

Please can you help by having a go at OW:W because we need your expertise to start the project off. Not every bit of its forum is yet strung together, but the best way we can do that is with your expert assistance. Be gentle with us because this is a world first experiment! So we are learning as we go, and grateful to be your guinea pigs  :D

Although the option is to 'mark' (i.e. mark up the interesting bits and type what's there) or transcribe (i.e. type out what someone else has marked) because we are right at the start of this project there is not likely to be much in the way of simple transcribing - it'll need to be marking for a start!  :)

When you 'start a discussion' about an item you are transcribing you will be working in a new forum system...see what you think!  :D
Ah! That's not ready yet so: there are no return links from Talk back to the Whaling interface, so avoid opening a Talk discussion and instead come home to the forum on a different browser tab.


So where's the information on this forum to help you? Where can you post ideas, problems/opinions? Here are all the links within this familiar forum
   Old Weather: Whaling   
   
   

"Enough!" I hear you cry, "Let me at it NOW!"  Indeed! Here is the very link: http://whaling.oldweather.org/#/

Happy sailings!  :D



DON'T FORGET - DON'T ASK TECHNICAL QUESTIONS HERE. USE A THREAD IN: Learning the Ropes

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This also means that it's hard to send to multiple recipients. Anyone else got the same problem please?  :)

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...please?

I was just in the middle of splitting out some loooooong geog list pages when things went wrong...like 'page not available' 'bad gateway' :o
Luckily the geog list survived  ::) 8)

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Yes folks - Shipopoly game 2 awaits!
If you'd like to join in the fun and games and sink like I did at the end of the first ever game WIN sign up here: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4338.0
There's even a prize this time! A wonderful piece of art by our very own Caro!!  :D :D :D

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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2024/IMG_7489_1.jpg

Oh dear - if only they knew then what we know now  :(
'Received Launch boiler casing + asbestos'

Patterson August 1916

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Handwriting Help / Manifestly deserting with the crockery
« on: May 15, 2015, 08:18:38 pm »
Sea Wilson & Eastwood this day declared deserters having about 10 days without leave and having left ship with clo~ery & effects manifestly intending to desert.

http://zooniverse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/www.penguinwatch.org/subjects/standard/5550b8ce7d50fe04e102b8d9.JPG

Please  - can anyone clarify what they were deserting with - it looks a bit like 'crockery and effects'. Hell bent on being an Alaskan Escoffier?

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Handwriting Help / Something provided for signals
« on: May 11, 2015, 09:34:13 pm »
Hello All,
Please - could anyone work out what was bought for signals (top of page on the right). It's 3080 ft of something. (Patterson 09/06/15 in Ketchikan)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2021/IMG_7173_0.jpg

Thanks! :D

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