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RN Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« on: October 23, 2011, 01:34:09 pm »
For once the handwriting is legible, so I think I'm correct here, but I find it hard to believe: the HMS Perth on 16 July 1918 reported sighting a ship named SS War Daffodil.

War Daffodil?!?!?!

it's the first event, at 00:30t:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-55096/ADM%2053-55096-011_0.jpg
« Last Edit: October 13, 2012, 04:19:57 am by Janet Jaguar »

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 02:12:46 pm »
Yep, that's her name.
There was a bunch of ships beginning "War ..." but the only one I can call to mind is "War Pathan". If I recall correctly, she was a supply ship and served with the North Russian Expeditionary Force.

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 02:29:03 pm »
Can't find "War Daffodil" specifically but this seems to be the class.
War Pathan was not just a supply ship, but an oil tanker, part of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary:

http://www.historicalrfa.org/ships-starting-with-w 
Some of them had interesting careers e.g. RFA War Bahadur
http://www.historicalrfa.org/images/stories/WarBahadur.jpg

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 03:08:41 pm »
War Daffodil is listed here: http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/WWIStandardShipsWarC.html
along with all her other names.  :)
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 03:12:38 pm by Caro »

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2011, 03:59:32 pm »
It sounds to me like the title of a bad antiwar song from around 1965 ...

I think I have had my fill
Of the beautiful but deadly war daffodil




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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2011, 04:10:23 pm »
 ;D

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 04:14:24 pm »
The best ship name to me was the RFA Frozen Orange Peel - also, there were quite a few War ships -

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 04:21:48 pm »
I forgot to say:
Was the name the inspiration for putting flowers into rifle barrels during the anti-Vietnam War protests?

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2011, 04:42:36 pm »
I love the thought of an anti-war song about war daffodils  ;D -

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2011, 06:24:25 pm »
A little while ago (?Aug/Sep 1918) Perth encountered HMS War Violet - in the Gulf of Aden, if I recall correctly.

Didn't think to mention it then,    but since you brought it up...  ::)


sorry- can't recall the precise date, but could track it down if considered important enough!

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2011, 07:29:07 pm »
If you go onto the Ship Index (http://shipindex.org for anyone not already familiar with this site) and enter "War*" loads of them come up, though not the War Daffodil, nor the War Violet, nor the War Musket which I remember from one of my ships' logs.  There are quite a few flowers - Crocus, Lily, Aconite - and some birds.  I think "War Puffin" has to be my personal favourite, though, of those on this list.  (My all-time favourite ship's name remains the SS Skinfaxe, which I visualize as being black, against a stormy sky, with St Elmo's fire around her masts ... )

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2011, 09:32:04 pm »
From Old Ship Pictures, there are also these which I liked:

?   (War Duck-01)
?   (War Energy-01)
?   (War Lemur-01)
?   (War Melody-01)

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2011, 11:28:36 pm »
jenfurr has just posted a fascinating link about decoy ships, arising from another discussion.

The piece is quite long, but riveting and well worth a read. It mentions one Lieut Cmdr Campbell who won a VC (as did three members of his various crews, too) and also includes the following morsel, later on:

'Thirty-six Flower-class sloops were built to resemble merchant ships, each builder using one or more different designs. They were quite convincing conversions. One ordinary Flower sloop, Begonia, was given a mercantile appearance after battle damage.'

So, it turns out, they were absolutely not shrinking violets.  Very brave men, indeed.

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2011, 05:02:21 pm »
Are we clear here that the War Daffodil/Crocus/Violet etc are merchant ships and not RN flower-class sloops?

(My apologies if I am trying to clear confusion that doesn't exist in the first place!  :-[ )

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Re: Best ship name ever? "War Daffodil"
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2011, 05:38:13 pm »
thursdaynext, I'm a neophyte here and have made presumptions - I'm open to correction from anyone with knowledge on the subject (and there is an impressive number of them on this forum!).   ;)