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AvastMH

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Kola Inlet beach to identify
« on: July 07, 2012, 09:04:01 pm »
Kola Inlet point:  12.40pm  Can anyone work out what beach was used please?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44879/ADM%2053-44879-010_0.jpg

Anyone got any good maps of N Russia please?  :-\

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 09:09:33 pm »
The first part/word looks like 'Abram'; I'm not sure what's going on in the middle; then it looks like 'Kalta'.
No maps of Russia I'm afraid ....

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 09:18:35 pm »
Thanks helenj.  Weird isn't it. the middle bit looks like a 'P' just as the next word 'Point'. I couldn't work out if the first word were 'abram' or 'abeam' - can't think that either will make any sense.  :-\

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 09:25:42 pm »
I get Abram Pkalta Point, if that helps.

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 09:28:23 pm »
One of the Capes enclosing Murmansk harbour is called Abrahams Crag / Abrahams Point

As the Kola inlet is now the main Russian Naval base on the White sea I doubt you will get any charts for the area

I thought it was  Abram Pkalta Point and transcribed it as such.

Any idea what the name of the ship that entered harbour at 3.00 along with the Stephen Furness?
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 09:45:21 pm by PeteB9 »

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 10:05:03 pm »
Thanks PeteB9  Looks like I'll be going with the same Point.
That other boat - Hmm...couldn't track it but the word looked very much like Yxor - which is a type of boat builders adze...so the name does make sense in a way.  I certainly entered it as that in the transcribe and the searchable database.  :)
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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 10:06:51 pm »
I get Abram Pkalta Point, if that helps.
Thanks Tastiger.
I'm going with that especially as I don't want the KGB to have to pop round to sort out place names then arrest me for knowing hwere the russian fleet is...gulp! :P  ;D

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 10:18:48 pm »
Hi PeteB9 - can I check the name of  the ship 'sargetta' with you - or sargella, please (e.g. May 16th 9.20 am). I thought it was sargetta...but now I'm not so sure.
How can the Intrepid be so sloppy - and yet such hard work?  ???  :D

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 10:19:28 pm »
Anyone got any good maps of N Russia please?  :-\

The best old and good maps (or just old!) that I've found are in the David Rumsey collection.  I particularly love the Touring Club Italiano world atlas (1929) even if the spellings are Italian alternates.

TCI North Russian map

The collection in general, using their viewer:
http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/view/all?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No

If you just like reading history in the changing maps of a region, this site is a serious treat! :)

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2012, 10:24:03 pm »
Hi PeteB9 - can I check the name of  the ship 'sargetta' with you - or sargella, please (e.g. May 16th 9.20 am). I thought it was sargetta...but now I'm not so sure.
How can the Intrepid be so sloppy - and yet such hard work?  ???  :D

Thanks for Yxor - sounds like a character from the Lord of the Rings.

The other ship I put as Sargetta

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Re: Kola Inlet beach to identify
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 10:35:19 pm »


If you just like reading history in the changing maps of a region, this site is a serious treat! :)

Thanks so much yet again Janet!  Sadly no Abram Pkalta points shown on map .
I got very excited when I spotted some anchor bearings very close to that time, but they were 'the yellow house' and 'the beacon on the hill'.   ;D