Author Topic: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas  (Read 10824 times)

Randi

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The moderators do not write the tutorial, but we will be happy to pass on suggestions.
We DO, and are currently, writing Help Documents.

If you have suggestions you can post them here.



At the time we didn't - that has changed ;)
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Craig

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 02:00:48 pm »
The main thing missing in the current OW 3 tutorial is a link to the Forum articles on how to use the interface. Equally important is to state the cardinal rules "Transcribe what you see except for dittos; replace dittos with values referred to previously. Do not make assumptions about what the log keeper intended unless the handwriting is unclear; only type what the log keeper wrote, or what you think he wrote".

I don't understand why this is not already clearly stated in bold and large font because, as we know, many people instinctively try to second guess the logger. (I'm not mentionning any names but my own  ;D).

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2012, 03:55:32 pm »
Already posted this somewhere else but so they're all in the one place:
We need something which helps transcribers to distinguish between lat/long readings, and places with bearings.  On Manning I've yet to see any lat/long recorded, but against those headings in the log book there are often landmarks with a bearing and distance.

Actually (26/8) they have now begun to record lat/long sometimes, when they're at sea with presumably no landmarks to use, but they're still rarities, and they mix up lat/long and places with bearings under the same log book headings.

And someone else had mentioned the need to make it clear which part of the barometer reading to put where ....

Also worth pointing out that sometimes not every reading is being recorded, so you need to look at the headings and make sure the figures are going in the right columns in the magnifier, especially as the magnifier spreads everything out so they're no longer lining up (I'm enjoying the bigger magnifier, and not complaining, but it does mean we need to take more care here.)
« Last Edit: August 26, 2012, 08:00:31 pm by helenj »

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 04:05:34 pm »
Tell people that they don't have to worry about am/AM and pm/PM for the Hours field in the weather record.

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Add drop down menu for Hour. 1am, 1 am, 1AM and 1 AM may all be valid but will the system edits match them? What should the standard be?
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1) an am/pm feature for the time, in the BEAR logs I've seen the times are 1...noon and 1...midnight.  confounding am/pm (which is likely with novice or poorly instructed users) will create a problem with data (the temps at 1am won't be the same as those at 1pm...
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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 05:41:20 pm »
Maybe condense the time info into saying that the position of gray marker on the page sets the time of the readings for the computer, and the hour box is for transcriber convenience?

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 07:01:34 pm »
Perhaps something to this effect?
The editors are working for historians, the opposite of climatologists.

And starting an editorial office and seeing what we had changed a number of recommendations we are making regarding comments.

The Golden Rule holds true:  All comments are optional.

The Editors' Wish List:  If a comment interests you,
    please transcribe accurately in whole, it makes our lives easier. ;D

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 07:29:38 pm »
 ;D

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2012, 12:57:46 am »
 ;D

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2012, 07:54:52 am »
How to fudge the URLs to look at other log pages - very useful for spelling questions or trying to figure out where you are

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2012, 09:11:23 am »
That's a really good one randi - my current favourite...  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2012, 09:16:22 am »
With really tricky writing - or lots of detail for the non-weather entries -it is easier to bring a 'word' window up in small and type the details into that, then cut and paste from Word into the events box of Old Weather.  I find this reduces the number of times I accidentally hit the mouse button and set off a rogue box.
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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 08:03:20 pm »
This is both a question and a suggestion; in Phrase III, where do we put locations such as 'At sea, North Pacific Ocean' which I've just got on Manning?  The only possibility seems to be 'Place Name', which isn't exactly accurate, but everything else is worse ....  If we can clarify this, then probably something needs to go into any Help Document.

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 08:16:30 pm »
I have asked that ;)
For now the answer is indeed Place Name - we are waiting for clarification.

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 08:17:25 pm »
for what it's worth I've been doing 'place name' and 'at sea' as well - after all it is no lie... ;) ;)

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Re: Information to include in Tutorial or Help Documents / Other Ideas
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2012, 08:24:02 pm »
Thanks to you both - I'll go on doing this at the moment and wait for clarification.