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Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« on: September 02, 2012, 03:53:41 pm »
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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 05:06:07 pm »
I don't know if this picture is already doing the rounds - but found it in Wiki... The Bear in Emma Harbour. Vast and daunting arctic vista!
Joan





Phew!  That puts human endeavour in perspective.  Where is Emma Harbour?  I've only done a bit of transcribing on Manning so far, and I don't think I've reached Emma.





Helen & Joan - Please excuse me for doubling up your posts, but I needed an empty first post.
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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2012, 06:10:39 pm »
Wiki says:
A bay in Chukotka, Russia, now Komsomolskaya Bay, a branch of Provideniya Bay, NE Siberia, just below where Siberia pretty much touches Alaska (just a fraction to the left of dead centre on this 1928 map:
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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 02:27:55 pm »
I just received my exciting purchase: 'The Coast Guard Expands 1865-1915, New Roles, New Frontiers. There's a whole chapter on the Bear. And BOY have you got exciting times ahead - in about 1889 there's a ship's uprising. Dr White (ship's dr) reports that for 30 days over the July 'The Captain appears about crazy and is almost blind. He has drunk...four gallons of my whisky besides his own and much more from the whaler's beer and wine not counted. This makes four weeks of continuous drunk.'  :o :o :o Wow - that's going to be one interesting log - lot's of reading between the lines I should think...  Interestingly Dr White makes a visit to the Thetis - and is very praiseworthy of it's status.  :D
My first impression of the US boats was 'boring' but now...bring it on!  8)

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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2012, 07:38:37 pm »
That captain would be Michael "H..l Roaring Mike" Healy.  A very complex man, definitely a life-long alcoholic, who set the standard for the role of the Coast Guard in the frozen north that is still followed today.

He has a chapter in "Alaska and the U.S. Revenue Cutter Service, 1867-1915"  -   By Truman R. Strobridge, Dennis L. Noble
Not fully available to buy as an ebook, but the 3rd chapter comes up online and it is wholly about this one man.
http://books.google.com/books?id=VSx7-ZqB1C0C&pg=PA209&lpg=PA209&dq=Report+of+the+cruise+of+the+revenue+Corwin+1889&source=bl&ots=aNeb70eF0w&sig=nsV1Tl4wX0mflaDQQSZ4JZTfJO0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XWhXULLWMOf6yQH60YHQBA&sqi=2&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Hell%20Roaring%20Mike&f=false

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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2012, 08:08:11 pm »
Yes he's really fascinating Janet,
He had the life of which Holywood's great movies are made - born to a slave and a plantation owner in the South - would have had to be a slave, so sent to NY - brother became a Bishop - the first black bishop in the US, another brother became the first President of Georgetown University. He fought alcohol himself, and for native peoples in Alaska. Found himself having to be the serious law enforcer, and aboard boat surrounded by many who might have viewed him as lesser in social stature. 'By 1881, he was known as a brilliant seaman; by 1894 he would become a legend in his own time and the best known American in Alaska'.
What a whopper story - you couldn't make it up.. - anyone able to write the script - who'd star as Healy?

 I found this book whilst nosing around:

Captain "Hell Roaring" Mike Healy: From American Slave to Arctic Hero (New Perspectives on Maritime History and Nautical Archaeology)
Dennis L. Noble (Author), Truman R. Strobridge (Author)   
Hmmm -might go on the xmas list....

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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2012, 08:10:06 pm »
Darn - replied in the other thread - OW addiction...sorry!
J :)

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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2012, 08:35:53 pm »
If that's the worst mistake you make today, you are living the good life. ;D

I'm moving that answer to here - not simple, but definitely possible.


DONE.
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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2012, 05:42:47 am »
Whilst this probably should go under handwriting, as it is about the Bear I put it hear.
Just starting with the Bear I need some pointers as to the handwriting and what to expect.
Will start with cloud type 9am http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Bear/BEAR_001_jpgs/b001of002_0045_0.jpg
I see Cum ~~

Any other unusual pages or hard to read pages with answers would be appreciated until I get my eye in.
TIA
Stuart.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2012, 06:29:35 am by pommystuart »

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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2012, 06:51:33 am »
Do you want me to move these 2 posts into the Handwriting board and making them the "Bear Help Desk" like was done for the Grafton transcribers?  This ship might need that.

And if I had to guess, the clouds would be Cum-Ch, which makes no sense at all.  I'd leave the tildes in.

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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2012, 06:58:40 am »
what ever you think best.

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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2012, 07:06:39 am »
Cum Str

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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2012, 07:12:10 am »
Thanks randi, will note that in my new word file for fixing.
whilst your hot to trot what is OCQ2 an at 6am and 8am and what is a 1pm  http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Bear/BEAR_001_jpgs/b001of002_0047_0.jpg

Hope to be able to read the logs before she finishes her voyage.  :D
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Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2012, 07:28:06 am »
ocq2 = overcast with detached clouds and squally winds (worse than usual squalls I assume, since squaring the 'q' is not in the chart instructions.)

I had to look up squally to determine exactly what kind of strong wind they were talking about exactly.  (Mostly because insomniacs get bored at night, I think.)  It was mostly what I thought.  If the log keeper was squaring his q, they must have been doing bad things indeed.

Webster's Dictionary 1913:
    Pronunciation: skwạld
    n.   1.   A sudden and violent gust of wind often attended with rain or snow.
    The gray skirts of a lifting squall.
      - Tennyson.
    Black squall
      a squall attended with dark, heavy clouds.
    Thick squall
      a black squall accompanied by rain, hail, sleet, or snow.
    White squall
      a squall which comes unexpectedly, without being marked in its approach by the clouds.
    - Totten.
    [/list]
    « Last Edit: September 18, 2012, 07:30:23 am by Janet Jaguar »

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    Re: USRC Bear -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
    « Reply #14 on: September 18, 2012, 07:32:57 am »
    It does look like ocq2, but I don't know what that means.

    Here are the instructions for filing out the US log book: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3140.msg50700#msg50700

    Janet beat me ;)