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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2012, 07:55:09 pm »
FYI, I just found a site listing US medals given to the navy and marines.  Among those that list the recipients by name, is the Concord for the Battle of Manila.

For whole list of crew, see http://www.history.navy.mil/medals/dewey.htm
Concord's crew is listed http://www.history.navy.mil/medals/dewey/dewey5.htm

I get 'page not available', tried both Chrome and IE.
Do you have to subscribe to this service?


No, this is one of the Navy's public pages.  I checked and that page is up and running. And if you can get into any of the DANFS pages, that's this page's home page as well.  http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/index.html

If DANFS is blocked to you, might the problem be something clogging the send to Australia?

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2012, 10:08:37 pm »
Hello,

   I found M. J. Flynn (CH) placed under sentry's charge and then confined to cells on 4 March, 1891. He is not listed in the excellent list of crew members given above.

Michael

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2012, 10:19:11 pm »
« Last Edit: November 02, 2012, 06:46:28 am by randi_2 »

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2012, 10:23:03 pm »
Hello,

   I found M. J. Flynn (CH) placed under sentry's charge and then confined to cells on 4 March, 1891. He is not listed in the excellent list of crew members given above.

Michael

Thanks Michael.
M.J. Flynn is on the list. (he got sent to jail in April) but I have noticed names cropping up on the Misc pages which are not listed anywhere before.
Keep them coming.

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2012, 05:06:19 am »
13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 crew declared deserters, 3 4 discharged at their own request in just 4 months and 1 sent to prison.

What is going on on this ship?  (NO comments about me being Captain  please.  :-[ )
I did not have one deserter on my last ship. (Being at sea helped I guess)  ;)
« Last Edit: November 06, 2012, 05:05:01 am by pommystuart »

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2012, 01:50:19 am »
30 May 1891.
We finally get to sea after 4 month in N.Y.   :)  :)  :)
New York to Hampton Roads.
Lets see them go AWOL now.  :P
« Last Edit: November 05, 2012, 01:56:45 am by pommystuart »

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2012, 01:55:10 am »
That NEVER happens in a well run crew - factory or ship.  Something is clearly wrong.

I'm curious as to what will happen while at sea.

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2012, 05:53:15 am »
02/06/1891

RIP Moses Wright (ch) and Jos Fletcher (2ch). Died when a boiler steam pipe burst.
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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2012, 01:54:12 pm »
Here is a paper from Int'l Journal of Naval History that describes the experience of enlisted navy personnel in the 'new navy' of the 1890s - and explores why the desertion rate was so high.

http://www.ijnhonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Byers.pdf

The desertion rate in the 1890s was 15%.

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2012, 03:47:55 pm »
Nice find. Thanks.
It is amazing how good 'spin doctors' can talk people into anything.

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2012, 12:03:28 am »
use your browser finder for "Jonathan" - it takes you right to the lin. ;D

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2012, 01:34:07 am »
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol011of040/vol011of040_007_1.jpg
Line 10

I would like to keep this post JUST for the crew list or it gets buried again.

Would you please delete your entries and use the discussion.

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2012, 01:46:18 am »
Done.

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2012, 02:47:10 am »
LOVED 'Jack of the Dust' of whom they had one! Fab job description - suspect job itself was horrid... ::) :-\

Missed that one. where was it?

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Re: Concord -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2012, 12:33:35 pm »
Here is a paper from Int'l Journal of Naval History that describes the experience of enlisted navy personnel in the 'new navy' of the 1890s - and explores why the desertion rate was so high.

http://www.ijnhonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Byers.pdf

The desertion rate in the 1890s was 15%.

Interesting! - haven't read it all yet though.  Perhaps Stuart's lot were the 15% - only joking!
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