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Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« on: October 21, 2012, 09:18:53 pm »
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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 04:15:18 pm »
The early scans for patterson are not very helpful I'm sorry to report. Clearly a case of a large and tightly bound book, but is there anyway that the machinery can be adjusted to be helpful...I've just encountered this:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%201/IMG_4771_0.jpg
and it's no fun at all.
Thanks to the powers that be and the scanner folk, in anticipation.

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2012, 04:23:57 pm »
Joan, the early logs for this launch are both part of the learning curve, and done on old machines that are no longer being used, so its a case of working through the start.   I think Patterson is the worst one so far to surface. 

Patterson is also already reported in "Listing of Faulty Scanned Pages" on the Technical Support board.  The weekend is the wrong time to ask for resolution of the problem.  We'll work it through somehow next week, because I myself don't know if it's borderline in archive quality or just plain not.

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2012, 06:42:21 pm »
Joan, I got started transcribing last night, and between all the 'OK' buttons working now and getting used following those curved-crooked lines, I started having fun last night. 

Do you have another ship I can play in while you steal the captaincy back? ;)

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2012, 07:22:38 pm »
There is only one volume of this type for PATTERSON. After this it switches to something that looks like the other Coast Survey logs that are more loosely bound. The main issue is the lack of a Zeutschell (a sort of hi-tech book press) at our A2 location at the time this was shot. Let me know if it becomes impossible to work with.

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2012, 08:01:35 pm »
Joan, I got started transcribing last night, and between all the 'OK' buttons working now and getting used following those curved-crooked lines, I started having fun last night. 

Do you have another ship I can play in while you steal the captaincy back? ;)

Glad you enjoyed the Patterson Janet, but those curvy pages are a real teaser aren't they  ::)? You certainly steamed through a stack of pages! Impressive! I did wonder whether we ought to get, if possible, an early report from Philip and co. as to how accurate we are working. What do you think? I've nearly crossed over a couple of lines as I worked. So now I'm purposely slower with this one. It'll be easier towards the middle of the book.
I noticed that the Yorktown and Yukon are trailing, on pages done, compared to the rest.  I'd  hate for that to put folks off - that's why I've not gone back to the Rodgers. But you're very welcome to the Patterson helm if you're enjoying it!  ;D 8)

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2012, 08:18:27 pm »
There is only one volume of this type for PATTERSON. After this it switches to something that looks like the other Coast Survey logs that are more loosely bound. The main issue is the lack of a Zeutschell (a sort of hi-tech book press) at our A2 location at the time this was shot. Let me know if it becomes impossible to work with.
Kevin, it can be done as is.  It is slow, and it may turn into a late bloomer.  If NARA will think they are inferior as archive quality goes, wanting a redo, it would be kind to do that first and then ask for transcriptions.  If they meet archive quality, then just have patience and know it will eventually be done.  Every transcriber slowly, the mind has to be rested, but it works because the handwriting is quite legible.

Glad you enjoyed the Patterson Janet, but those curvy pages are a real teaser aren't they  ::)? You certainly steamed through a stack of pages! Impressive! I did wonder whether we ought to get, if possible, an early report from Philip and co. as to how accurate we are working. What do you think? I've nearly crossed over a couple of lines as I worked. So now I'm purposely slower with this one. It'll be easier towards the middle of the book.
I noticed that the Yorktown and Yukon are trailing, on pages done, compared to the rest.  I'd  hate for that to put folks off - that's why I've not gone back to the Rodgers. But you're very welcome to the Patterson helm if you're enjoying it!  ;D 8)

Well, I've already started to look at Yukon, and I'm going to stay with her for a while because it will be easier to answer newbie questions if I've experienced it.  All the discussion today about overlapping boxes and double barometers helped me decide.  And while I enjoy being captain, it has never been an overwhelming goal for me.  If we play leap-frog with Patterson, life will be fun and the ship will be transcribed (2/3rds worth.) 8)

I have one pet peeve that needs solving if I'm going to transcribe instead of research landmarks - where is she??!! ???

Am I really seeing Mendocino and Humboldt in California, or are we somewhere very different?

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2012, 08:30:01 pm »
Yes, Yukon is off the coast of northern California.

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2012, 08:33:59 pm »
Thanks, that helps.

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2012, 08:51:44 pm »
If you see something like "Square 781" in red ink, see http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3404.0
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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2012, 09:55:09 pm »
When I started, it was talking about Trinidad!
It took me awhile to figure out that we weren't in the Caribbean!

That is definitely one name that will misdirect no matter where you look, if you don't know approx. location ahead of asking. ;)

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 10:46:02 am »
Yes, thanks for putting it in SODA, Randi. I was wondering too. Then I came across Eureka and I was really confused.

See my note in the duplicates thread. There are lots of duplicates and triplicates in the Yukon/Mary Ann

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2012, 11:07:41 am »
Yes, thanks for putting it in SODA, Randi. I was wondering too. Then I came across Eureka and I was really confused.

See my note in the duplicates thread. There are lots of duplicates and triplicates in the Yukon/Mary Ann

It was the "Mendocino" that aimed me at California in the first place - I have an aunt currently living in Chico, and knew she was nearer to Mendocino than San Francisco.

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2012, 04:36:46 pm »
This is the report to congress on the building and commissioning of the Carlile P. Patterson in 1884.

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Re: Patterson -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 06:46:38 pm »
Blah!! ANOTHER duplicated page:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%201/IMG_4782_0.jpg
August 8th 1884

LESSON TO LEARN: now we can go back to pages check the next two pages as you go along to avoid spending hours wasting your time. Sigh!