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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2012, 04:26:27 pm »
Hi,

I was curious about this, and from a little searching in the net i've landed on this page: http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/archival-programs/division.html

It seems for USN (and other army corps) the limit could be 62 years after the end of active service (if that article does not refer only to the access to St.Luis archive).
Perhaps the Unalga logs were not available to public until all of the eventually logged court-martial sentences were still sealed...
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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2012, 05:14:40 pm »
That's interesting.  Anyone living near the relevant Archive could look up what the crime was exactly, provided the sailor under discussion was discharged (with sentence served) before 1950.

I am completely certainly certain that the ship's logs are not the court records.

Also, I went looking for access to Deck Logs' availability.  They are NOT sealed for a set number of years, but are now under the Freedom of Information act.  They do charge for the cost of duplicating any records you ask for copies of - 15 cents a page for paper record, 25 cents for a microfiche sheet.

The Navy itself keeps the deck logs for 30 years.  At age 31, the logs are transferred to the National Archives.  There, old logs (1775 thru 1940) are housed in one building in DC, and newer logs in another near DC.  (They probably filled the first up completely.)

Any requests for logs within the last 30 years: "If you notify Navy FOIA Office you are willing to pay for the reproduction of the deck logs then your request will be forwarded to the appropriate Atlantic Fleet or Pacific Fleet command for review and final release determination of those specific deck logs you have requested."  In other words, some of the newer logs may be classed as secret for security reasons.

I don't think this includes Coast Guard vessels, but their security is probably the same.

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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2012, 12:36:55 pm »

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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2012, 01:44:43 pm »
If you page down to the bottom you will find a letter from Unalga crewman Merle Harbourt describing life on the Unalga during the early days of WW2.

http://www.uscg.mil/history/webcutters/Unalga_1912.pdf

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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2012, 01:48:14 pm »
Hi Kevin!
See what fun the forum is?


P.S. Joan already posted that link in Unalga -- Reference: Transcription Example and Log Description! ;D
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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2012, 02:07:02 pm »
A happy event during April 1942! :) :)
It seems Ensign J.A. Palmer got married with Amelia B. from Puerto Rico (where Unalga is patrolling harbor entrance):

Officers list of April: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0139_cr2_to_jpg/b0139_143_0.jpg
Officers list of May: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0139_cr2_to_jpg/b0139_182_0.jpg

The home address of Palmer changed from the one of the mother to the wife's one (at Santurce, Puerto Rico).

It's a pity nothing special is mentioned on the logs... he was only granted a 20 days leave permission on April 4th, and returned aboard on April 26th.
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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2012, 02:12:48 pm »
He finished as Rear Admiral James A. Palmer!
http://www.uscg.mil/history/people/Flags/PalmerJBio.pdf

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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2012, 09:33:23 pm »
See where a good woman can get a man? !   ;D

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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2012, 10:52:05 pm »
See where a good woman can get a man? !   ;D

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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2012, 02:31:47 pm »
Quite curious...

Oliver Garleb advanced twice to CRM (Chief Radio Man) a (acting) Pro (Provisional) both in the log of 4 June and 9 June 1942:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0139_cr2_to_jpg/b0139_236_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0139_cr2_to_jpg/b0139_241_1.jpg
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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2012, 04:48:05 pm »
There 2 different handwritings, and the second mention was immediately followed by an additional returned crew with all the paperwork.  I'm guessing he picked up 2 instead of 1 out of the same hanging file and entered them both while going on autopilot to complete all paperwork.  (the authorization number is the same.)

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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2012, 02:03:35 pm »
A the end of July 1942, as at every end of month, there's an empty weather page before the crew listings... just after the weather area there's a curious writing... it seems a set of musical notes (without a staff), or a series of 'd' and 'o':

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0140_cr2_to_jpg/b0140_041_0.jpg
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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2012, 02:13:42 pm »
I wonder if the L's for Lorenz, Harold on the facing page (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0140_cr2_to_jpg/b0140_041_1.jpg) were written just before the page was turned so that they were 'blotted' by the blank page :-\
There are 10 corrected L's and 10 blots ;)
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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2012, 07:09:46 pm »
A nice description of a 3"/50 caliber gun jamming (from a bad manufactured ammunition round it seems) on 12 November 1942, during a fire practice in Guantanamo Bay:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0140_cr2_to_jpg/b0140_192_1.jpg

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Jam occurred when the projectile became separated from the case as the gun was being loaded, projectile lodging in the base. The case, with powder intact was withdrawn from breech. Projectile was removed with an extension rod introduced through the muzzle and all parts of the round were thrown over the side.

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Re: Unalga -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2012, 09:17:31 pm »
On December 1942 officer list it appears for the first time J. J. Del Castillo as Ensign (this spanish-sounding name has been wrongly transcribed by the logkeeper as Del Castillyo)...

On the net I've just fond him on May 2008 issue of USCG Reservist Magazine in pdf: http://www.uscg.mil/careercentral/Reservist/issues/2008/05/issue.pdf on page 39... he received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the USAID, and there's also a photo of him (he was 85 in 2008). His service on board Unalga is mentioned in the article.
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