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jil

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #735 on: October 07, 2016, 08:12:02 pm »
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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #736 on: October 07, 2016, 08:56:58 pm »
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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #738 on: October 29, 2016, 05:57:00 pm »
Type what you don't see? On this page you see cloud cover column is only partly visible. Where you see 1's would probably be 10's if you saw the whole column (which is not visible from the Remarks page). So if you TWYS you would only put in a 1 but this is probably wrong. So do you type 10 even though you can't see the 0?

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol02of04/vol02of04_172_0.jpg

 

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #739 on: October 29, 2016, 06:26:49 pm »
I would say yes in this case, because if you use Matteo's page joiner tool on this pair of pages, you can see traces of the zeroes.
http://owtools.scienceontheweb.net/owtools/OWCoupler.html

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #740 on: October 29, 2016, 06:52:43 pm »
I agree about the '10's. The single digit values in the AM block are less certain, though.

I would say yes in this case, because if you use Matteo's page joiner tool on this pair of pages, you can see traces of the zeroes.
http://owtools.scienceontheweb.net/owtools/OWCoupler.html

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #741 on: October 29, 2016, 07:51:33 pm »
I agree with you, Bob. The PM are obviously 10s but Matteos coupler doesn't add anything, Hanibal, because the fold hides letters that are not visible from either side.

One can imagine there are zeros in the AM if the spacing of the cloud percentages is consistent between AM and PM, which is quite likely. Philip says if writing is not clear then guess enthusiastically. But is this stretching it too far? Should we type what we can't see?

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #742 on: October 29, 2016, 07:59:31 pm »
No - I meant that if you use the coupler and look at the AM values, you can see traces of the zeroes of the 10s in the AM block.
The single digit values are still unreadable, true, but at least you can transcribe the 10s.

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #743 on: October 29, 2016, 08:00:38 pm »
I'd say the AM 10's are certainly guessable with enthusiasm.  ;)

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #744 on: October 30, 2016, 07:42:55 am »
The previous log-book of this style had the same problem.
It will probably get worse, I recall whole columns moving to the other page.

I went for the extra mile and made sure the weather data was entered correctly.

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #745 on: November 03, 2016, 01:58:51 pm »
If you didn't know better, you would have thought Yorktown had arrived at some US port. :)

04-08-1902 - At anchor off Cavite, Philippines.

Meridian to 4 P.M.:
Vessels in port, U.S.F.S. New York, U.S.F.S. Rainbow U.S.S. Annapolis, U.S.S. Princeton, U.S.S. Isla de Luzon, U.S.S. Buffalo, U.S.S. Celtic, U.S.S. Piscataqua, U.S.S. Villalobos, U.S.S. Arayat, U.S.S. Panay, U.S.S. Paragua, U.S.S. Gen'l Alava, U.S.S. Basco, U.S.S. Frolic, U.S.S. Arethusa, U.S.S. Zafiro, U.S.S. Iris, U.S.S. Samar.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol026of040/vol026of040_052_1.jpg

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #746 on: November 03, 2016, 01:59:12 pm »
Congratulations lieutenant-commander Rooney. :)

06-08-1902 - At anchor off Cavite, Philippines.

Meridian to 4 P.M.:
At 3.30 Lieut. Comdr W.R.A. Rooney U.S. Navy was detached from duty as executive officer and ordered to command the U.S.S. Frolic.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol026of040/vol026of040_054_1.jpg

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #747 on: November 04, 2016, 02:51:35 pm »
07-08-1902 - At anchor off Cavite, Philippines.

Meridian to 4 P.M.:
The U.S.S. Calamianes went out of commission, hauling down her flag, Jack and pennant at 2.40 p.m., and the U.S.S. Panay at 3.15 p.m.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol026of040/vol026of040_056_1.jpg


09-08-1902 [Incorrectly marked by log-keeper as 12 August] - At anchor off Cavite, Philippines.

4 to 8 A.M.:
At 8.00 full dressed ship, British Ensign at main.

8 A.M. to Meridian:
The U.S.S. Paragua and U.S.S. Arayat went out of commission.
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At 12:00 m fired a salute of 21 guns in honor of coronation of King Edward VII of England.

4 to 8 P.M.:
At 4.40 p.m. the U.S.S. Arayat was hauled out to a buoy at 5.30 p.m. the U.S.S. Buffalo got underway and stood out of the harbor flying a homeward bound pennant.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol026of040/vol026of040_058_1.jpg

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #748 on: November 05, 2016, 02:48:21 pm »
10-08-1902 - At anchor off Cavite, Philippines.

8 P.M. to Midnight:
About 9.15 fire was discovered in whaleboat, caused by lighted cigar stump, sails burned and spars charred.
Fire extinguished immediately as soon as discovered.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol026of040/vol026of040_059_1.jpg

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Re: Yorktown -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #749 on: November 05, 2016, 06:16:49 pm »
Impressive effort to investigate the cause of the fire!  :)