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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #225 on: August 05, 2017, 10:08:52 pm »
This caught me out - terrible news - the loss of a ship bar one of the crew.
The California has been in touch with a lot of other whalers during 1892, and one was the Helen Mar (the log notes Helen Mor).

On the 6th October the California notes the start of a gale.



And there is sad news on the 9th October. The California speaks to the Jessie Freeman who reports that the Helen Mor was lost on the 6th and only one Boatsteerer, 'Nelson', survived (the ship was crushed to smithereens very quickly after becoming caught between two big icebergs).



The loss is reported in a San Francisco paper along with the loss of William Robinson, chief officer of the whaler F.A. Barstow, and John Gallagher of the Thrasher, who also died in the Arctic this season of 1892.

Rest in Peace all of these lost souls

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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #226 on: August 08, 2017, 10:36:28 pm »
One from the William Baylies 1899

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9649773/?_ga=2.231514202.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132

Incident of demise of C.E. Buckler Master May 24th Wednesday
Arrived at Diomede Is at 1.30 p.m. Capt. Comisky came on board at 3.30 pm made fast to the ice. At about 6.30 p.m. Capt Buckler while in a trade locker discharged a 45.70 Whinchester Rifle the ball passed through his left temple and out the right temple causing [instantaneous] death. Immediately called Capt Newth of Str Jenette on board and later Capt. Comisky & Levit all deemed it an accidental death self inflicted I then proceeded to St. [Lawrence] Is ([Officially] known as [Gambell]) that I might bury the body on American soil and to be assisted by the Mission teachers in the services

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« Reply #227 on: August 09, 2017, 02:01:24 am »
RIP Capt C. E. Buckler

Whaling is so dangerous that it seems a cruel irony to be killed by an accident.



Mentioned in https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/27615931/, but you have to pay to have full access :P
Quote from: July 16, 1899 San Francisco Chronicle from San Francisco, California -- Page 30
DIED Captain Buckler of the whaling steamer William Baylies died from wounds caused by the accidental discharge of a gun and was burled on 8t Lawrence Island

Found this too: Whaling Will Never Do For Me: The American Whaleman in the Nineteenth Century
Interestingly, it mentions that they tried to avoid burial at sea - at least for the officers.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2017, 02:13:51 pm by Randi »

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« Reply #228 on: August 09, 2017, 06:59:12 pm »
Copying over from the other forum what I found on the Beluga's 1900 log after she got stuck for the winter somewhere around Baillie Island after trying to salvage the Schooner Sophia Sutherland (I believe the one of Jack London fame)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rmKyCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA1666&lpg=PA1666&dq=sophia+sutherland+schooner+alaska&source=bl&ots=31mP-Hyr_V&sig=rI0TjhpgDDFgdst4K10eGHchwFY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjq0fyH28rVAhWhI8AKHdRjB6IQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=sophia%20sutherland%20schooner%20alaska&f=false


https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504051/?_ga=2.231499098.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Oct 17 - Tak Kak "Thrasher" a Port Clarence Indian died at 8:30 p.m. with consumption of the bowels. buried him at 3 p.m.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504053/?_ga=2.4491510.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Oct 24 - Mr. Look very sick. Out of his head.
Oct 25 - Mr. Look died at 11.35 a.m. Passed away very quietly. Did not recover conciousness at any time. Mr. Gardner sat up with him, slept at intervals during the night. I administered 2 doses of 30 drops each of Laudamum and 1 of 20. at intervals of 4 hours. During the morning seemed to be resting quietly and sleeping most of the time. Had been expecting he might die for 3 days. Was taken sick at first with what I called La Grippe, recovered enough to report for duty for about a week. caught a fresh cold and died. Was wandering in mind for 3 days, but I think recognized me yesterday morning. Ate a fairly good supper last night. Showed a black or browness on his tongue and nostrils that I could not account for. Had been sick nearly a month.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504054/?_ga=2.158622847.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Oct 26 - Digging a grave for Mr. Look.
Oct 27 - Buried mr. Look about 2p.m.
Oct 29 - Took an inventory of Mr. Looks effects. Divided his clothes etc. among the crew. Saved what I thought his people would want.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504056/?_ga=2.202542292.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Nov 4 - "Bowhead", one of the Siberian Natives died at 11.15 a.m.
Nov 5 - Buried Bowhead at 9 p.m.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504059/?_ga=2.166956539.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Nov 14 - Chas. (?) Jacobson died at 6.10 am from ~ of Typroid (?) fever was up on deck for two or three times about 10 days ago

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504060/?_ga=2.226599256.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Nov 15 - Buried Jacobson at 1.30 p.m.
Built a hospital on deck
Two men forward and myself on the sick list

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504062/?_ga=2.260876616.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Nov 29 - Frank a Diomede boy died on Stmr. Narwhal at 3.55 p.m.

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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #229 on: August 09, 2017, 08:34:58 pm »
Thank you so much for bringing these posts into the main Forum, Joke Slayer. Very kind of you.

Wonderful piece of history to link up the loss of the Sophia Sutherland with Beluga. I really must re-read some Jack London works!

Rest in peace Tak Kak "Thrasher", Mr Look, Bowhead from Siberia, Chas. Jacobson, and Frank from Diomede

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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #230 on: August 09, 2017, 08:39:37 pm »
One from the William Baylies 1899

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9649773/?_ga=2.231514202.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132

Incident of demise of C.E. Buckler Master May 24th Wednesday


Truly Tragic! I agree with Randi - it's a hard enough life without the fates throwing in a curved ball at you whilst whaling  :o :(

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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #231 on: August 09, 2017, 10:20:05 pm »
Copying over from the other forum what I found on the Beluga's 1900 log after she got stuck for the winter somewhere around Baillie Island after trying to salvage the Schooner Sophia Sutherland (I believe the one of Jack London fame)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rmKyCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA1666&lpg=PA1666&dq=sophia+sutherland+schooner+alaska

Right you are: https://books.google.com/books?id=3SeVHQAiqOkC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=Schooner+Sophia+Sutherland+1900

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« Reply #232 on: August 22, 2017, 07:57:15 pm »
In Barstow 1892 the writing changes midway through the log (page 29/48), the first page with the new handwriting is here:

https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/54163136-5749-4c77-ab79-d4374294b45f.jpeg?_ga=2.118920713.1896382759.1503082697-1449818388.1497958650

From what I can make out the entry on August 20 reports the death of "Mate W.R. Robinson" (which might explain the change in handwriting), having some trouble making it out however as the writing is quite faint.

At 5~ ock P.M. the Mate W.R. Robinson was taken severely (?) sick and at ~ to 10 died sent for a Dr to Cape Smith but he died before he arrived. Had an autopsy but failed to find the cause of his death ~ ~ ~ ~ weather fine so ends the day

The cards at the start of the log state that the Master was a William Robinson

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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #233 on: August 22, 2017, 08:26:06 pm »
Oh how sad! No 'CPR' in those tough days :'(

I took a long look at the text and found:

'At 5 1/2 ock P.M. the Mate W.R. Robinson
was taken Seriously Sick and at 1/4 to 10 ~pm
died sent for a Dr to Cape smith but
he died before he arrived. held an Autopsy
but failed to find the cause of his Death.
suposed to be Appopplexey. weather fine
so ends this day.'

RIP William R Robinson

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I'll pop a note over on Panoptes GTF34, I use a program called Irfanview to look at the page and adjust the contrast etc. Sometimes helps with these faintly penned pages.  :)
« Last Edit: August 22, 2017, 08:27:38 pm by AvastMH »

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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #234 on: August 23, 2017, 01:18:52 am »
I did a little bit of hunting, but I didn't have much luck.
http://fultonhistory.com/Newspapers%2023/Maysville%20KY%20Public%20Ledger/Maysville%20KY%20Public%20Ledger%201892-11-07_3.pdf simply says that he died in the Arctic. Several other papers say the same thing.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2017, 01:37:01 am by Randi »

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« Reply #235 on: August 31, 2017, 11:28:45 pm »
In Barstow 1892 the writing changes midway through the log (page 29/48), the first page with the new handwriting is here:

https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/54163136-5749-4c77-ab79-d4374294b45f.jpeg?_ga=2.118920713.1896382759.1503082697-1449818388.1497958650

From what I can make out the entry on August 20 reports the death of "Mate W.R. Robinson" (which might explain the change in handwriting), having some trouble making it out however as the writing is quite faint.

At 5~ ock P.M. the Mate W.R. Robinson was taken severely (?) sick and at ~ to 10 died sent for a Dr to Cape Smith but he died before he arrived. Had an autopsy but failed to find the cause of his death ~ ~ ~ ~ weather fine so ends the day

The cards at the start of the log state that the Master was a William Robinson

The same event from the log of the Baylies 1892
https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/c614fd61-86fd-41a5-80a7-ab2c704de06a.jpeg

Aug 22
Mr Robertson mate of the brig F A Bartsow died last night and was buried to day Our Capt and all the other vessels Captains went on shore to the funeral

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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #236 on: September 01, 2017, 02:21:14 am »
Thanks for posting!

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« Reply #237 on: September 04, 2017, 01:16:35 am »
https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/2262bb8f-b5bf-4565-a5a9-4db7d1e48196.jpeg

Barstow 1891

May 7
Spoke Bk John & Winthrop in charge of the mate C. K. Tucker reports the death of Capt. Montross some time previous

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Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
« Reply #238 on: September 04, 2017, 07:03:25 am »
A book called whaling masters gives his name as Horace B Montross 

AFamily history Montross: a family history; Pierre Montras and his descendants, a record of 300 years of the Montras, Montross, Montrose, Montress family in the United States and Canada book quotes a letter from Tucker saying he died 23rd March 1891 at 60.30N 189.00 E. 

They are in google books but I could not see how to get the full letter.

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« Reply #239 on: September 04, 2017, 03:04:41 pm »
Good find!