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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2012, 01:16:57 pm »
U.S.S. Yorktown

The pages of 09-07-1889, 12-07-1889 and 15-07-1889 have been scanned 2 times.
This is due to added lists of supplies to the Engineers Department and Paymasters Department.

Using the first page for weather reports and the last page for notes makes it possible to transcribe everything.

The scans involved for 09-07-1889:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_017_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_017_1.jpg

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_018_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_018_1.jpg

The scans involved for 12-07-1889:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_021_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_021_1.jpg

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_022_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_022_1.jpg

The scans involved for 15-07-1889:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_025_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_025_1.jpg

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_026_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_026_1.jpg
« Last Edit: November 27, 2012, 03:55:03 pm by Maikel »


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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2012, 07:23:06 pm »
My solution to that is to open the jpeg link of the xxx_0 page and reduce my transcribe window slightly so I can see the right margin of the previous page (which is the left margin of my current page.)  The attached picture is a bit of a cheat, I was in forum-mode, not transcriber mode, but it shows the idea.

I'm still in TWYS mode, I've just expanded my sight horizons a little. ;)

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2012, 07:40:08 pm »
I simply open the other page in another window. I don't bother to align them.
But I do copy the hour - since I am transcribing what the log keeper wrote. ;)

(If the page was split down the center - like some RN pages - that would be a different matter.)

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2012, 08:02:36 pm »
Hi there... for these cases i've just created a little helper.

It's an html page you can save on your desktop (or anywhere you like in your pc) and use from there with a normal web browser, i've tested it both on Firefox and IE (FF16 and IE8).

Just enter the left and right page urls and click on load images to see them joined in a 500+500 pixel (hoping it's enough) image of the center of the page...
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 08:18:14 pm by propriome »

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2012, 09:18:03 pm »
Obviously creative people have come up with several good ideas.  Very helpful to know them all. :)
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 11:45:11 pm by Janet Jaguar »

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2012, 09:52:56 pm »
NOTE: With RN ships, when one log page was split over 2 .jpg pages the instructions were to transcribe the two .jpg pages separately and transcribe only what was visible in the .jpg.
I have not (yet) seen this happen with the US logs. When it does, we will have to decide how to handle it.

Here, where just the edge of the page is missing, we cheat a bit :-X

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2012, 10:20:12 pm »
Hi there... for these cases i've just created a little helper.

It's an html page you can save on your desktop (or anywhere you like in your pc) and use from there with a normal web browser, i've tested it both on Firefox and IE (FF16 and IE8).

Just enter the left and right page urls and click on load images to see them joined in a 500+500 pixel (hoping it's enough) image of the center of the page...

Just tried it - matches them up beautifully!

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2012, 11:26:02 am »
NOTE: With RN ships, when one log page was split over 2 .jpg pages the instructions were to transcribe the two .jpg pages separately and transcribe only what was visible in the .jpg.
I have not (yet) seen this happen with the US logs. When it does, we will have to decide how to handle it.

Here, where just the edge of the page is missing, we cheat a bit :-X

I don't find it necessary to join up the pages in these cases of the Yukon because it is easy to determine the time by the position on the page. But your "little helper" will certainly useful in general propriome. For the RN logs it was often the air pressure or a temperature that was split so it was essential to view both pages side by side.

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2012, 12:14:13 pm »
It finally occurred to me that I was transcribing the 1873 voyage of the Yukon for the 2nd time.

The first one is:
from http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%202/IMG_4098_0.jpg
to     http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%202/IMG_4206_1.jpg

and the second one is:
from http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%203/IMG_4207_0.jpg
to     http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%203/IMG_4313_1.jpg

I am up to http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%203/IMG_4222_0.jpg on the second voyage.
I began to suspect something was wrong when they caught 40 fine cod fish for the second time.  ;D. The dates kept coming up in autocomplete too but I told myself this might have been a previous vessel.

I guess I should I just click through the rest of the voyage? That will take quite a bit of time but not as much as re-transcribing.

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2012, 01:10:57 pm »
These are the same dates but different logs - I will post to Kevin and Elizabeth.

Please don't click through the rest till I get back to you.

MATES LOG: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%203/IMG_4210_0.jpg
JOURNAL: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%202/IMG_4102_0.jpg

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2012, 04:21:47 pm »
Every other time we were getting the same date from a different book, Philip was adamant about wanting the weather transcribed fully from each.  Please, do keep on transcribing both.

What you do with the comments always remains optional.  If you think the mate's log is recording anything differently, it might be interesting to have those comments transcribed, but that is up to you.

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2012, 04:37:07 pm »
Janet - you have email on this.

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Re: Faulty scanned and duplicate pages
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2012, 04:46:29 pm »
I see it.  The PTB will be culling most of the repeat rough logs, so this will also be as rare in the American logs as in the RN logs.  We'll treat them the same as we treated original/copy logs all along.