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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2013, 03:50:33 pm »
What's the '1 small tormentor' for? Some cunning gremlin that makes the fruit drop in your cakes? A cunning elf that leaves the bottom of the pies soggy?  ::) ;D

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2013, 03:55:25 pm »
But how many would they be cooking for, I wish they'd put some sizes in.

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2013, 04:54:55 pm »
The 'tormentor' is at the end with lines and cables; I don't think it is kitchen gear.  What it really is, is still a puzzlement.  Google searches only turn up destroyer and later shore establishment HMS Tormentor, and an online game.

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2013, 05:24:25 pm »
While I am tempted to suggest that "1 small tormentor" might be the ship's cat, according to my 1973 dictionary "tormentor" can mean "a long meat fork".

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2013, 05:36:01 pm »
Now that would indicate that the ship's cooks knew how to take out their frustrations (on the meat!) about every crew member who complained about their cooking!  Makes you wonder how many faces got painted on the side of beef. ;D

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2013, 06:15:25 pm »
I wondered about the small tormenter too, but I didn't find anything - or rather I found too much.

"a long meat fork" is interesting, but as Janet says, it is not with the kitchen equipment
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200 fms 1.5 in Manila, 74 lbs. 1 small tormentor, 9 lengths leading hose, (Linen), 15 bbls. sand.

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2013, 08:27:17 pm »
OK, it's not with the kitchen equipment, but http://www.finedictionary.com/tormentor.html specifically says it is "a long fork used by a ship's cook to take meat out of the coppers".  Maybe the logkeeper copied out the list of kitchen stuff, moved on to the cables, then realized he'd omitted the tormentor so just put it in next?  Although a small, long fork does seem a bit odd ...

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2013, 08:35:50 pm »
I think you are right ;D

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2013, 11:17:59 pm »
Just think about all those cows quarters that ended up in the drink during loading...how many did we record? A meat fork that's good for all eventualities has to be useful on a ship - space is always at a premium you know - a good meat fork cannot afford to be choosey about where it appears on the list. Life in the kitchen is obvious, but you can stand out when you're in someone else's tackle list.  ::)

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2013, 04:06:52 pm »
Jamestown - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_050_0.jpg

Yesterday: "Opened a Barrel of Beef and found it deficient 15 lbs."

Today: "In serving out a barrel of provisions, a barrel of Pork was found deficient 35 lbs."

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2013, 08:04:59 pm »
You will get tired of reporting this sort of thing, Randi. They have a couple of bad barrels every week. You have to wonder about the quality of the ones they don't throw overboard.

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2013, 08:24:52 pm »
It must be hard to keep ships' chandlers honest - their clients don't stay put long enough to dump the defective barrels back in their own front yard to cope with.

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2013, 08:28:29 pm »
I seem to remember hearing something to the effect that in the Spanish Civil War (?) the bad food killed more soldiers than the bullets.

Not sure if that was a real study or if someone was trying to make a point.

 :-\

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2013, 08:44:39 pm »
I seem to remember hearing something to the effect that in the Spanish Civil War (?) the bad food killed more soldiers than the bullets.

Not sure if that was a real study or if someone was trying to make a point.

 :-\

I know so little about the Spanish Civil War, so I recently bought "The Battle for Spain" by Anthony Beevor.  I haven't yet found the time to read it (it's quite a weighty volume!) but I've just had a quick look in the index.  I can't see anything to confirm that statement, but it is clear that food shortages were a massive factor for the republican side, though the author does say that the troops were generally fed better than the civilian population.

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Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2013, 03:16:13 am »
I seem to remember hearing something to the effect that in the Spanish Civil War (?) the bad food killed more soldiers than the bullets.

Not sure if that was a real study or if someone was trying to make a point.

 :-\

Close - it may have been the Spanish American war you were thinking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_beef_scandal