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Janet Jaguar

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Re: Jamestown (1844) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2013, 05:50:44 pm »
All us modern readers hate their forms of punishment, but having loved reading Hornblower stories in high school, I wasn't surprised.  1844 is significantly before the USN decided to agree with us and ban flogging on their ships.

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Re: Jamestown (1844) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2013, 02:02:38 pm »

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« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2013, 10:43:05 pm »
August 26, 1845:

"Transfered to the U. S. Ship "Preble" the following men & marines - Viz Daniel Biship (Boy), Wil. Hovell (C. M. T) W'm Smith (Sea) John Lyon (Sand'~) Edw'd Bell - Peter Hart  Perry A. Frieze  Henry Rooper (Marines)"

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Re: Jamestown (1844) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2013, 11:11:07 pm »
August 27, 1845:

"Rec'd on board from the U S Ship "Preble" the following named Marines - Viz Peter Gooding  John Bayne  & Henry Dugger"

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Re: Jamestown (1844) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2013, 07:03:51 pm »
August 31, 1845:
Several crew transfer from the Jamestown to the Preble to go back to the States:

"Mid'n A. T. Byrins & G. D. Chenoweth & M''n P. B. Peacky (late Commanders Clerk) left the ship for a passage home in the "Preble""

"Le't H J Hartstene left the ship to join the "Preble" for a passage to the United States as bearer of dispatches."

"At 7 AM the U S Ship Preble got underway & stood to sea bound the the U States. In passing this ship she cheered ship which was returned"


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Re: Jamestown (1844) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2013, 07:44:10 pm »

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« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2013, 12:33:52 am »
I guess he took Hartstene's place?  Was he on the ship already? I don't remember seeing his name on any transfers or such.

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« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2013, 07:21:13 am »
I am also assuming that he took Hartstene's place
I first noticed him on 31 Aug (and then saw him on the page for 30 Aug that you had done), but I don't recall him being mentioned before that. Perhaps with all the excitement of the transfers and the court martial they forgot to mention his arrival :-\

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« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2013, 08:41:12 pm »
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« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2013, 10:59:15 pm »
Sept. 14, 1884:

"Sent Mid'm Thomas & four Kroomen and five 40 Gal casks and 2.15 Gal Breakers to the contractors Schooner to get water."

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_146_0.jpg

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« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2013, 02:48:45 am »
Sept. 16, 1845:

"Punished James Baxter with one dozen with the cats for abusing a man and calling him a d - d Irish son of a Bitch." 

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Am I reading this correctly?

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« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2013, 07:40:19 am »
I fear so :(

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« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2013, 08:21:17 am »
A very precise reading.  I'm wondering how intense the "abuse" was.  I know Irish Catholics who began immigrating here in the millions (eventually) were very poorly educated for city living, and very poorly thought of.

From the Irish-American POV: http://www.kinsella.org/history/histira.htm
This looks at mid-19th century immigration of catholics, not the earlier Scotch-Irish protestants who created the Appalachian culture and were primarily farmers.  Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_American#17th_to_mid-19th_century

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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2013, 06:58:26 pm »
Carolyn - "one of these days" I will add your names into my list ;) ;D

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Re: Jamestown (1844) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2013, 01:41:29 am »
Thanks for the links, Janet, especially given my Irish-on-both-sides ancestry!

A very precise reading.  I'm wondering how intense the "abuse" was.  I know Irish Catholics who began immigrating here in the millions (eventually) were very poorly educated for city living, and very poorly thought of.

From the Irish-American POV: http://www.kinsella.org/history/histira.htm
This looks at mid-19th century immigration of catholics, not the earlier Scotch-Irish protestants who created the Appalachian culture and were primarily farmers.  Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_American#17th_to_mid-19th_century