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Other Place Names -- Discussion
« on: March 13, 2013, 07:59:09 pm »
We currently have topics for Alaska, Canada, Greenland, Russia and the US (except Alaska). These account for most of our place names. However, some captains seem to confuse port and starboard and find themselves in the Caribbean Sea, off the coast of Africa or in Asia. The purpose of this topic is to handle place names that do not fit in the currently existing topics. Based on the information collected here, we may create new topics.

You can use this topic to search for a place name in a region not covered by the other topics.

You can also use this topic to ask for help with reading a place name or locating the place in a region not covered by the other topics.
Give us a link to the log page(s) where it is mentioned and tell us approximately where it occurs on the page(s).

Note: Place names include lighthouses.



If you have information about a place name or find a useful reference, please help everyone by contributing it to this topic.

When contributing place names, try to provide as many of the following as possible:
  • Country
  • Name in log
  • Latitude and Longitude (preferably in decimal format with a minimum of one decimal place - two decimal places is the preferred format)
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  • Current name (if different)
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  • Also, in case of problems, a link to the log page(s) where it is mentioned would be helpful
Don't worry if you can't supply all the information. Your link to the page will enable others to search for the missing information.
(You can save us even more work by using the template provided, but that is strictly optional.)



Topics for regions where we have accumulated a significant number of place names (but not yet created Reference/Discussion topics) are listed below.

Region                                          Contributer(s)
East Africa, Suez to Simonstowndorbel
China Station, Japan, Pacific and Indian OceanMaikel, dorbel, Karijn, ...
Icelandic and Faroese Place NamesThursday Next
Latin American Place Namespropriome, Randi, Pommy Stuart, ...
Mediterranean and Black Sea Place NamesJanet Jaguar, AvastMH, Randi



Any kind of geographical information in this topic is always welcome. A Google Map covering a specific ship or area is a good example of a much appreciated contribution. We will collect them here.




Philip Brohan's Place Names
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Re: Other Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 08:30:23 am »
Baltic and UK waters

Continues at: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3640.msg67683#msg67683

CountryNameLatitudeLongitudeSubdivisionOther Name/Notes
DenmarkHellehavn Nakke Lighthouse55.0112.52Hellehavns Nakke Lighthouse
DenmarkStevns Klint Lighthouse55.2912.45
EnglandBishop Rock Lighthouse49.9-6.5
EnglandBull Point51.2-4.2Devon
EnglandCoquet Island Lighthouse55.33-1.5
EnglandLongstone Lighthouse55.6438-1.6097Northumbria (Outer Farne)Part of the Outer Staple Islands
EnglandLundy Island51.1667-4.6667Devon
EnglandSt Abb's Head Lighthouse55.9163-2.1381Northumbria
EnglandSt Mary Island Lighthouse55.0717-1.4498Tyne and WearIn Whitley Bay
EnglandWalker-on-Tyne Newcastle54.967-1.5333Northumberland
EstoniaCape Sourop Lighthouse59.4724.41Suurupi/Surupe Range Rear (or Front?)
EstoniaEkholm Lighthouse59.6825.80Mohni (Island) Lighthouse
EstoniaKokskar Lighthouse59.7025.02Keri (Island) Lighthouse
EstoniaNargen Island Lighthouse59.6024.51Nargo/Naissaar Lighthouse
EstoniaNekmangrund Light Vessel59.0322.28Shoal
EstoniaOdensholm Lighthouse59.3023.36Osmussaar/Odinsholm Lighthouse
EstoniaReval/Revel59.4524.77Tallinn
EstoniaRistna Lighthouse58.9422.06
EstoniaRuno Lighthouse57.8023.26Ruhnu (island in Gulf of Riga)
EstoniaSwalfer Ort Lighthouse57.9122.06Sorve/Sworve
EstoniaTakhkona Lighthouse59.0922.59Tahkuna/Tackerort Lighthouse
EstoniaWulf Beacon Light59.6024.73Aegna (Island) Lighthouse
GermanyCape Arkona Lighthouse54.6813.43Arkona
GermanyKollicker Ort Lighthouse54.5613.68
Gulf of FinlandBiorko Sound60.3328.67Bjorko Sound/Beryozovye
Gulf of FinlandGreat Tyters Island Lighthouse59.8527.19Tyuters/Tutters/Tytarsaari
Gulf of FinlandHogland Island South60.0926.95Hochland/Gogland/Suursaari
Gulf of FinlandLaven Sari Island60.0127.83Ostrov Moshchnyy/Lavansaari
Gulf of FinlandNerva Lighthouse60.2527.95Ostrov Narvi
Gulf of FinlandRodskar Lighthouse59.9726.68Ostrov Rodsher/Ruuskeri
Gulf of FinlandSeskar Lighthouse60.0328.36Seiskari
Gulf of FinlandSommers Island Lighthouse60.2127.64Someri/Sommars/Ostrov Mayak
Gulf of FinlandSrednia Shoal60.1828.35
Gulf of FinlandStenskar Lighthouse59.8226.36Vaindloo (island)
LatviaBackofen Lighthouse57.2121.41Luzava
LatviaDvina River57.0524.05Duna/Daugava River, at Riga, NB not the Dvina in N. Russia
LatviaLibau56.5020.95Liepaja
LatviaRiga57.123.9
LatviaStein Ort Lighthouse56.8321.06Akmenrags (Stone Cape)
LatviaWindau Lighthouse57.4021.54Ventspils - has several lighthouses not sure which one log referred to, lat/long for harbour
Should be the Ventspils Locu Tornis, at position indicated, others are recent
LithuaniaNidin Lighthouse55.3121.00?Nidden/Nida? Lighthouse
LithuaniaPolangen Church55.9621.09Palanga
Northern IrelandCopeland Island Lighthouse54.6748-5.5289Could refer to Lighthouse Island Light at position 54.69, -5.52 or the near Mew Island Light at position 54.70, -5.51
Northern IrelandRue Point55.25-6.2
Northern IrelandSkullmartin54.5333-5.45
Northern IrelandSouth Rock54.3833-5.4167
Northern IrelandSt John's Point Lighthouse54.2-5.6County Down
Northern IrelandTorr Point55.2-6.0333
NorwayBear Island78.218615.6488Nordland (Svalbard)Longyearbyen
Bear Island is more probably Bjornoya at 74.45, 19.04 instead of Longyearbyen
NorwayHops Fiord70.769228.1113Finnmark, NordkappHopsfjorden
NorwayKamo Fiord71.048825.905Finnmark, NordkappKamyvaer
NorwayLang Fiord70.733328.2Finnmark, NordkappLangfjorden
NorwayPorsanger Fiord70.833326.0Finnmark, NordkappPorsanger
NorwayRis Fiord70.10525.5867Finnmark, NordkappRisfjorden
NorwaySpitzbergen77.87520.9752Spitsbergen
NorwayVister Tana Fiord Tana70.533328.1667Finnmark, NordkappVestertana
PolandDanzigGdansk
PolandFunkenhagen Lighthouse54.2415.87Gaski Lighthouse
PolandHeisternest Lighthouse54.6518.78Jastarnia Bor Lighthouse
PolandJershoft Lighthouse54.5416.54Jaroslawiec Lighthouse
PolandRixhoft Lighthouse54.8318.34Rozewie  East Tower (as West inactive since 1910)
                     
                  
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Re: Other Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 08:30:38 am »
Baltic and UK waters continued

CountryNameLatitude    LongitudeSubdivisionOther Name/Notes
ScotlandAberdeen57.1461-2.1035
ScotlandAuskerry59.0333-2.5667Orkney
ScotlandBanff57.6667-2.5167Banffshire
ScotlandBarra Head56.7667-7.6333Ross and CromartyOuter Hebrides
ScotlandBuchan Ness57.4667-1.7500Aberdeenshire
ScotlandBuckie57.675-2.9624Moray
ScotlandBurg Head57.7011-3.4899MorayBurghead
ScotlandCairston Road59-3.3Hoy Sound, ShetlandsShould be Cairston Roads, part of Scapa Flow, in Orkney Islands at 58.95, -3.28
ScotlandCape Wraith59.6333-5.0333Cape Wrath
ScotlandCava Lighthouse58.8833-3.1667Orkney
ScotlandCovsea Lighthouse57.7333-3.3500MorayCovesea Skerries
ScotlandCromarty Firth57.681-4.0341Ross and Cromarty
ScotlandCullen Moray57.7000-2.8333Aberdeenshire
ScotlandDornoch Firth57.8500-4.0000Ross and Cromarty
ScotlandDuncansby Head58.65-3.0333Caithness
ScotlandDunnet Bay58.6167-3.4Caithness
ScotlandDunnet Head58.6667-3.4Caithness
ScotlandEilean a Chuirn55.667-6.017Islay
ScotlandEriboll Loch58.4937-4.6864SutherlandLake Eriboll
ScotlandFair Isle North Lighthouse59.5-1.5
ScotlandFairway Buoy57.681-4.0341Ross and Cromarty, Firth of
ScotlandFrazerburgh57.6874-2.0184Aberdeenshire
ScotlandGirdle Ness Lighthouse57.1-2.1Aberdeenshire
ScotlandGlas Island58.0333-5.4667Inverness-shireGlas-Leac Mor
ScotlandGutter Sound58.8329-3.1931Orkney Islands
ScotlandInchkeith Fairway Light Vessel56.01-3.04Firth of ForthNoted as closed by 1921. Lat and Long are for Inchkeith Island
ScotlandKinnaird Head57.7000-2.0000Aberdeenshire
ScotlandLerwick60.1333-1.1333Shetland Islands
ScotlandLong Hope Sound58.8-1.3Hoy Sound, Shetland IslandsShould be Long Hope Sound, part of Scapa Flow, in Orkney Islands at 58.80, -3.20
ScotlandLossiemouth57.7189-3.2875Moray
ScotlandLowther Park58.6833-2.9000Orkney IslandsLouther Skerry
Misread from transcriber, should be Lowther Rock, different from Louther Skerry. Actual place is Lother Rock at 58.73, -2.98
ScotlandMacDuff57.6701-2.4969Aberdeenshire
ScotlandNeist Point57.4226-6.786Inner Hebrides, Invernesshire
ScotlandNoss Head58.4742-3.055Caithness
ScotlandOld Head58.75-2.9On South Ronaldsay, Orkney Islands
ScotlandPentland Skerries58.6901-2.9247
ScotlandPeterhead57.5000-1.7833Aberdeenshire
ScotlandPortsoy57.6814-2.6896Aberdeenshire
ScotlandRattray Head57.6167-1.8167Aberdeenshire
ScotlandScapa Flow58.8-3.1Shetland IslandsShould be Orkney Islands
ScotlandSinclair Bay58.5-3.1167Caithness
ScotlandSkerryvore Lighthouse56.33-7.1W. coast. Skerrymore Island
ScotlandSouth Ear Lighthouse58.2333-5.4West coast map
Alternate place name should be Cluas Deas
ScotlandStack Skerry59.0167-4.5167
ScotlandStroma Lighthouse58.67-3.1Orkney islands, CaithnessStroma (58.68,-3.12) and its lighthouse (58.70,-3.12) should not be part of Orkney Islands
ScotlandSule Skerry59.0833-4.4333
ScotlandSumburgh Head59.8833-1.3333Shetland Islands
ScotlandSwitha Gateway58.7973-3.1005Shetland IslandsShould be part of Scapa Flow, Orkney Islands
ScotlandTiumpan Head58.2624-6.1568Outer Hebrides, Ross and Cromarty
ScotlandWhiten Head58.5667-4.6SutherlandCardiff Bay
ScotlandWick Harbour Lighthouse58.4-3.1Caithness
WalesBardsey Island52.7667-4.8000Arfon, Gwynedd
WalesBarry Roads51.3931-3.2689South Wales
WalesCardiff Bay51.4630-3.1640
WalesNash Point Lighthouse51.45-3.53Glamorganshire
WalesRoath Basin51.4630-3.1640In Cardiff Bay
WalesSt Gover LightvesselNotfoundShould be the Saint Gowan Lightvessel, normally anchored at 51.51, -5.00
WalesStrumble Head52.0292-5.0708Pembrokeshire
WalesThe Smalls51.7167-5.6667Pembrokeshire
Wales (South)Elswick LightvesselNotfoundShould be the Helwick Lightvessel, normally anchored at 51.51, -4.43
   
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Re: Other Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 08:30:52 am »
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Re: Other Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 08:31:06 am »
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Re: Other Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2013, 07:49:01 pm »
Quote from: Caro
I can heartily recommend this for otherwise difficult to find locations in the Pacific.
http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1nri0/PacificIslands/resources/4.htm
With search. Brilliant.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2013, 01:43:33 pm »
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1Book-RN0-Maps2.htm#ukbases - WW I - British naval bases in the British Isles

http://www.naval-history.net/MapB1915-DoverStraits.GIF - WW I - Dover Straits

http://www.naval-history.net/Map22Channel.GIF - WW II - English Channel area

http://www.naval-history.net/Map62SWPacific.htm - WW II - South West Pacific

http://www.naval-history.net/Maps1942-00RNHomeWatersNorthern.GIF - WW II - RN Home Bases 1942 - North East coast
http://www.naval-history.net/Maps1942-00RNHomeWatersSouthern.GIF - WW II - RN Home Bases 1942 - South coast
http://www.naval-history.net/Maps1942-01RNHomeWaters.GIF - WW II - RN Home Bases 1942 - remaining coasts
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Re: Other Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2013, 10:34:16 am »
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While looking for something else also spotted Cross Sands on Gordon's map of North Sea sandbanks

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2013, 12:53:13 pm »
South Edinburgh Channel/Light Vessel - Thames Estuary Lat/Long 51.53/1.25
from Prostar sailing directions which also mentions loads of other features in that area if someone wants to go through it!


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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2013, 07:41:14 pm »
Hi jil, I hope you don't mind my moving your list, but Joan and I are doing a bit of housekeeping ;)

Baltic - from the logs of HMS Dauntless and HMS Dragon 1919

From David Rumsey Collection - Westruszland, Nordlicher Teil 1905
Lighthouse Directory:- Denmark: Sjaelland Region; Germany: Northeast Coast; Poland: Baltic Coast; Lithuania; Latvia; Southwestern Estonia; Northwestern Estonia; Northern Estonia; Eastern Estonia; Russia: Gulf of Finland Islands

Place NameLat/LongSubdivisionNotes
Cape Arkona Lighthouse 54.68/13.43GermanyArkona
Biorko Sound 60.33/28.67Bjorko Sound. Between Beryozovye islands and mainland
Danzig Gdansk
Ekholm Lighthouse 59.68/25.80EstoniaMohni (Island) Lighthouse
Funkenhagen Lighthouse 54.24/15.87 Poland Gaski Lighthouse
Heisternest Lighthouse 54.65/18.78Poland Jastarnia Bor Lighthouse
Hellehavn Nakke Lighthouse 55.01/12.52Denmark Hellehavns Nakke Lighthouse
Jershoft Lighthouse 54.54/16.54Poland Jaroslawiec Lighthouse
Kollicker Ort Lighthouse 54.56/13.68Germany
Kokskar Lighthouse 59.70/25.02EstoniaKeri (Island) Lighthouse
Laven Sari Island 60.01/27.83Gulf of FinlandOstrov Moshchnyy/Lavansaari
Libau 56.50/20.95 Latvia Liepaja
Nargen Island Lighthouse 59.60/24.51EstoniaNargo/Naissaar Lighthouse
Nidin Lighthouse 55.31/21.00?LithuaniaNidden/Nida? Lighthouse
Odensholm Lighthouse 59.30/23.36EstoniaOsmussaar/Odinsholm Lighthouse
Reval/Revel 59.45/24.77EstoniaTallinn
Riga57.1, 23.9Latvia
Rixhoft Lighthouse 54.83/18.34Poland Rozewie  East Tower (as West inactive since 1910)
Cape Sourop Lighthouse59.47/24.41EstoniaSuurupi/Surupe Range Rear (or Front?)
Stevns Klint Lighthouse55.29/12.45Denmark
Takhkona Lighthouse59.09/22.59EstoniaTahkuna/Tackerort Lighthouse
Wulf Beacon Light59.60/24.73EstoniaAegna (Island) Lighthouse
CountryPlace Name in logLat/LongSubdivisionNotes
Gulf of FinlandSommers Island Lighthouse60.21/27.64Someri/Sommars/Ostrov Mayak
Gulf of FinlandHogland Island South Lighthouse60.09/26.95Hochland/Gogland/Suursaari
Gulf of FinlandGreat Tyters Island Lighthouse59.85/27.19Tyuters/Tutters/Tytarsaari
Gulf of FinlandRodskar Lighthouse59.97/26.68Ostrov Rodsher/Ruuskeri
Gulf of Finland(Estonia)Stenskar Lighthouse59.82/26.36Vaindloo (island)
Gulf of FinlandSrednia Shoal60.18/28.35
EstoniaRistna Lighthouse58.94/22.06
LatviaStein Ort Lighthouse56.83/21.06Akmenrags (Stone Cape)
LatviaBackofen Lighthouse57.21/21.41Uzava
LatviaWindau Lighthouse57.40/21.54Ventspils - has several lighthouses not sure which one log referred to, lat/long for harbour
LatviaDvina River57.05/24.05Duna/Daugava River, at Riga, NB not the Dvina in N. Russia
EstoniaSwalfer Ort Lighthouse57.91/22.06Sorve/Sworve
EstoniaRuno Lighthouse57.80/23.26Ruhnu (island in Gulf of Riga)
Gulf of FinlandNerva Lighthouse60.25/27.95Ostrov Narvi
Gulf of FinlandSeskar Lighthouse60.03/28.36Seiskari
RussiaVirta Point Lighthouse60.35/28.62Mys Virta-Niyama
RussiaKaporia Bay59.86/28.83Koporja Bay/Koporye Bay
RussiaKoporskaya Bight59.86/28.83Koporja Bay/Koporye Bay
RussiaKolgenpia Point59.85/28.55
RussiaDoubovski PointSomewhere in Koporskaya Bight
RussiaKoivisto60.36/28.61Primorsk
RussiaSerkoloda Beacon60.31/28.80Island in mouth of Biorko Sound
RussiaPitka Point Tower60.27/28.70On one of the Beryozovye islands
LithuaniaPolangen Church55.96/21.09Palanga
EstoniaNekmangrund Light Vessel59.03/22.28Shoal

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Re: Other Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2013, 07:31:38 pm »
I have some place-names for the Baltic to post which do not already appear on jil's and Joan's lists.  Is there an idiot's guide somewhere as to how to get the columns to line up?  I can't make tabs work in a forum post, and the Insert Table function - well, I just have no idea what all this "tr" and "td" stuff is supposed to mean.  ??? 

As a last resort I could presumably select Courier as a font and line things up using spaces, but there's obviously a way of doing tabulated lists, if only I knew what it was!