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AvastMH

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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2013, 10:59:02 pm »
Why don't you simply check their own map?

Oh RATS - I thought I'd seen a map....sigh...and I even used the book to check a few things.
Today I had a major Homer Simpson moment ::) ::) ::)
Thanks Clewi... :D

PS - can you search for 'Pillow' in the September edit and pop in an Editor's note about the name being 'Pillar'? Cheers.
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2013, 08:11:50 am »
Fixed it!

Re Cape Hawaii:

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The name Wrangell Land, it seems, became associated with the island through a report of Captain Thomas Long, of the whaling bark Nile. In 1867 he reported that he had

'sailed to the eastward along the land during the fifteenth and part of the sixteenth [of August], and in some places approached it as near as fifteen miles. I have named this northern land Wrangell Land [he says] as an appropriate tribute to the memory of a man who spent three consecutive years north of latitude 68?, and demonstrated the problem of this open polar sea forty-five years ago, although others of much later date have endeavored to claim the merit of this discovery. The west cape of this land I have named Cape Thomas, after the man who first reported the land from the masthead of my ship, and the southeastern cape I have named after the largest island in this group [Hawaii].'

Quoted from a letter by Captain Long published in the Honolulu Commercial Advertiser, November, 1867. The same paper contains a letter from Captain George W. Raynor, of the ship Reindeer, giving additional geographic details.

http://books.google.com/books/reader?id=hAoTAAAAYAAJ&hl=de&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&pg=GBS.PR15

Hmmmm....

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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2013, 01:45:16 pm »
Just a few to add to your list. These were from HMS Mantis' brief trip to the area in 1919.

Onega       Lat 64.0, Long 37.9    Arkhangelsk Oblast
Rikasikha            Lat 64.5, Long 40.2    Arkhangelsk Oblast
Stupino       Lat 64.1, Long 41.9    Arkhangelsk Oblast
Solombola    Lat 64.6, Long 40.5    Arkhangelsk Oblast.    (Suburb of Archangel)


Hope they help someone a little.
K

All added to reference and map. Thank you Tegwen!
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2013, 02:06:04 pm »
Thanks!

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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2013, 08:00:58 pm »
Some Russian locations (mostly in the White Sea) from HMS Attentive 1918.
Bolshoi Oleni69.07/36.37Murmansk OblastOstrov Bol'shoy Oleniy - Island off Kola peninsula
69.22/33.48Murmansk OblastOstrov Bol'shoy Oleniy - Island in Kola inlet (confusingly!!)
Mali Oleni69.25/34.71Murmansk OblastOstrov Malyy Oleniy   
Cape Orlov67.22/41.28Murmansk OblastCape Orlof/Cape Terski-Orlov/Mys Orlov
Sosnovets Light66.49/40.68Murmansk OblastSosnovetskiy/Ostrov Sosnovets
Chavanga66.11/37.76Murmansk Oblasthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavanga
Shednya Island Light66.60/33.68Murmansk OblastOstrov Sredniye Ludy
Kochinnoi Point66.72/33.51Murmansk OblastMys Kochinnyy
Kibrinski Light66.94/32.82Murmansk OblastOstrov Kibirinskiye Ludy
Sharapov Head66.23/34.05KareliaMys Sharapov
Samba Light65.64/35.23KareliaOstrov Samba-Luda/Sambaluda
Kem64.95/34.58Kareliahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kem,_Russia
Soroka64.53/34.77KareliaBelomorsk - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belomorsk
Rombaki Island65.04/35.03KareliaOstrova Rombaki/Rombyaki
Troitski Point65.19/35.99ArkhangelskCape Troitskaya/Troitskoye Point on Anzeri Island
Modjugski Island64.91/40.26ArkhangelskModiagski Island/Ostrov Mud?yugskiy
Bakaritsa64.47/40.61Arkhangelsk   
Keretz Light House65.36/39.75ArkhangelskMys Kerets/Mys Keretski

All added to reference and map. Thank you jil!
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2013, 06:05:16 pm »
Pinagori Pt - Mys Pinagoriy: http://mapcarta.com/13364660

Added to reference and map. Thank you Randi!
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2014, 07:00:51 pm »
Mapmaker for HMS Cicala reporting in.  These are the stopping places I have located for the Russian Expedition gunboats.

Pliss [Plyoso]     Lat 62.70, Long 43.31     on the Dvina River
Ust Vaga [Ust?-Vaga]     Lat 62.74, Long 42.84     on the Vaga River
Gunners Bridge [near Kurgomen]     Lat 62.6, Long 43.5     on the Dvina River (battle name for a local bridge)

All added to ref, map & csv. Thanks Janet!

For Gunners Bridge, the most plausible one should be the bridge across Undysh River, a couple of kilometers down the river from Kurgomen (no bridges across the Dvina River existed above Arkhangelsk for a great distance, just boat landings and crossings).

PS: On the HMS Cicala transcription, the Vaga river has been wrongly addressed as "Varga" (on the logpage it seems correct)
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2015, 06:34:31 pm »
Asiatic Pilot Volume I East Coast of Siberia, Sakhalin Island and Korea
from JJ

Added to references. Thanks Randi!
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2015, 11:04:28 am »
I just saw Cape Naverin in one of the whaler beta-test logs (http://demo.zooniverse.org/whaling-logs-test-data/beta-logbooks/congress/logbookofcongres00unse_0082.jpg)
I suspect that it is the same as Cape Navarin



Similarly, I suspect that Cape Serdes is Mys Serdtse-Kamen'

Agree for both places! Added to map, ref & csv. Thanks Randi!
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2016, 07:17:05 pm »
Here are some Kuril Island charts:

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http://library.ucsd.edu/dc/search?f[collection_sim][]=Pacific+Basin+Nautical+Charts&f[subject_topic_sim][]=Russia&f[subject_topic_sim][]=Kuril+Islands
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2016, 10:05:15 pm »
Cor -THANKS!! :D  they are great. I just need to work on trying to fit some of these into the memory banks  ;)  I'll send a link to hurlock. Thanks again!  :D

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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2016, 06:35:08 am »
Thanks everybody.  I will get back to the place names as soon as I get to those months for the Albatross 1890 monthly Crew mentions I am doing.

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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2016, 07:04:36 pm »
Commander Islands/ Komandorskie Islands
Albatross 30th July 1896
Copper Island = Medny Island/Ostrov Medny  Latitude:  54? 42' 24.3" (54.7067?) north Longitude:  167? 43' 28.6" (167.7246?) east
Black Point = Mys Chernyy Latitude:  54? 41' (54.6833?) north  Longitude:  167? 51' (167.85?) east - Possibly also referred to in logs as Tchorni Point
(chernyy is russian for black)
Preobrajenski Harbor/village = Preobrazhenskoye Latitude:  54? 47' 29.6" (54.7916?) north Longitude:  167? 34' 1.5" (167.5671?) east
The village was abandoned in the 1960s
Albatross 31st July 1896
Seoutchi Island= Kamen Sivuchiy aka Sea Lion Rock 54 47 22 N, 167 39 18 E or another possibility = Ari Kamen Island (Ostrov Ariy Kamen) - charts show it with a bracketed name sivutchi. Latitud:  55? 12' 54.4" (55.2151?) norte Longitud:  165? 47' 27.1" (165.7909?) este
Toporkof Island = Ostrov Toporkov (Tufted Puffin Rock) Latitude:  55? 12' 21.9" (55.2061?) north Longitude:  165? 56' 2.9" (165.9342?) east
Nikolski Village = Nikol'skoye Latitude:  55? 11' 50.1" (55.1973?) north Longitude:  165? 59' 50.2" (165.9973?) east

All places added to map, ref & csv. Thanks Hurlock!
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Re: Russian Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2016, 12:52:46 pm »
Thanks Hurlock :)