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propriome

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US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« on: March 16, 2013, 08:21:45 pm »
This topic is for the United States excluding Alaska.
We have a very large number of Alaskan place names, so we have created topics specifically for the state of Alaska: Alaskan Place Names -- Reference and Alaskan Place Names -- Discussion


In general, if you are looking for place names or for maps and other useful references, you should go to US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Reference.

You can use this topic to search for information that has not yet been added to the Reference topic.

You can also use this topic to ask for help with reading a US (non-Alaskan) place name or locating the place.

Give us a link to the log page(s) where it is mentioned and tell us approximately where it occurs on the page(s).

Note: Place names include lighthouses.



If you have information about a place name or find a useful reference, please help everyone by contributing it to this topic.

When contributing place names, try to provide as many of the following as possible:
  • Name in log
  • Latitude and Longitude (preferably in decimal format with a minimum of one decimal place - two decimal places is the preferred format)
  • State
  • Current name (if different)
  • Link to more information
  • Also, in case of problems, a link to the log page(s) where it is mentioned would be helpful
Don't worry if you can't supply all the information. Your link to the page will enable others to search for the missing information.
(You can save us even more work by using the template provided, but that is strictly optional.)

Any kind of geographical information in this topic is always welcome. A Google Map covering a specific ship or area is a good example of a much appreciated contribution. We will collect them in the corresponding Reference topic.
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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 06:40:15 am »
Bar Harbor44.3875/-68.2039Ma.

(Modified to correct format 25 Mar 2013.)
 
« Last Edit: March 24, 2013, 07:36:09 pm by Pommy Stuart »

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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 07:43:26 am »
The place table is a good idea but why lat/long in decimal?
If I look up a place in this place I then have to change it to deg min.

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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 08:54:06 am »
The place table is a good idea but why lat/long in decimal?
If I look up a place in this place I then have to change it to deg min.

Glad you like the tables, and thanks for your contributions!

In the Editorial Office editors are requested to use decimal (needless to say, transcribers should use the format in the logbook!), so I thought it would be simpler to use decimal here. I have to admit that it has taken a bit of time for me to adjust to this format!
Both mapcarta.com (see attached) and geographic.org give both d/m/s and decimal. Also we will do the conversion if necessary.



Thanks for using the table. There is just one tricky part: you need to replace the 'http://' after the 'url=' with the link. I can't seem to stop the system from adding the 'http://' :P


[table]
[tr]
[td][url=http://http://mapcarta.com/Bar_Harbor][color=#0000cc]Bar Harbor[/color][/url][/td]     [td]44.3875/-68.2039[/td]     [td]Ma.[/td]     [td] [/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 04:20:02 am »
Sorry, Maine should be Me. not Ma.

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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2014, 08:54:31 pm »
In Progress



Boston Naval ShipyardMASee Charlestown Navy Yard
Charlestown Navy Yard42.36-71.06MANational Park Service
U.S. Navy Yard CharlestownMASee Charlestown Navy Yard
Charleston Naval Shipyard32.85-79.96SCWikipedia
Charleston Navy YardSCSee Charleston Naval Shipyard





namestateSee
namelatlongstate
namelatlongstatemore

All added to ref and maps, thanks Randi
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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 03:37:53 pm »
« Last Edit: April 23, 2014, 09:52:13 pm by propriome »

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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2014, 08:51:57 pm »
New Whatcom, Washington. Now part of Bellingham - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatcom_Museum_of_History_and_Art. 48.75,-122.50?

Added to ref and maps, thanks jil
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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 06:34:56 pm »
Non - Alasksa US place names, not in list.
Positions taken from Wikipedia or other reference if not in log.  Wikepedia positions are often in degree.decimal; I have rounded to 2 places

Blackistone Island38.21-76.744MDhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_146_1.jpg;St. Clement's Island, Blackistone Island Light
Cape Henry Light36.96-76.05VAhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_145_1.jpg; Cape Henry Light
Cape Charles Light37.12-75.91VAhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_145_1.jpg; Current Cape Charles Light is north of 1884 light, http://www.uscg.mil/history/weblighthouses/LHVA.asp
Cherrystone Light37.26-76.03VAhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_145_1.jpg; Same as Cherrystone Bar Light?
Cob Point38.24-76.83MDhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_146_1.jpg;Cobb Point Light
Currituck Light36.38-75.83NChttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_145_1.jpg; Same as Currituck Beach Light?
Piney Point38.14 -76.53MDhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_146_1.jpg;Piney Point Light
Quantico38.52 -77.29VAhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_146_1.jpg;Quantico
Point Lookout Light38.03-76.32MDhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_146_1.jpg;Point Lookout Light
Rappahannock Light?http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_146_1.jpg; Reference for historic Rappahannock Light?
Stingray Light37.56-76.27VAhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_146_1.jpg; Same as Stingray Point Light?
York River Light37.48-76.75VAhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_145_1.jpg; Same as Bells Rock Light?  OR see next row
York River Light37.21-76.25VAhttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_145_1.jpg; Same as York Spit Light?


All added to map and ref, thanks camiller.

For Cherrystone, Currituck and Stingray, assumed Cherrystone Bar, Currituck Beach and Stingray Point as the most probable ones.

For Rappahannock, there's a NOAA Station with that name (http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=rplv2) before Rappahannock river, on the other side of Chesapeake Bay, gone with that.

For York River, i've chosen York Spit, since Bells Rock is quite in the inside (almost at the confluence of Mattaponi and Pamunkey) and from ship's log it appears she was just passing by, without entering York river.


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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2014, 01:56:41 pm »
Buzzard Point   38.86403  -77.012767  Washington, D. C.   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzard_Point,
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_181_1.jpg

Added to ref & maps, thanks camiller
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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 05:44:24 pm »
Three in the Puget Sound area:

WASHINGTON

Point Robinson, 47.39, -122.37
http://mapcarta.com/23962704

(And associated light: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Robinson_Light)

Point Brown or Browns Point, 47.30, -127.44
http://mapcarta.com/23922186

Commencement Bay (i.e. Tacoma Harbor), 47.29, -122.44
http://mapcarta.com/23927062

All added to map & ref. Thanks Danny
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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2014, 10:18:09 pm »
And then some more:

WASHINGTON

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_050_0.jpg

Maury Island, 47.38, -122.43
http://mapcarta.com/23950982

Vashon Island, 47.45, -122.46
http://mapcarta.com/23974982

Quartermaster Harbor, 47.38, -122.46
http://mapcarta.com/23960906

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_057_1.jpg

Piner Point, 47.34, -122.45
http://mapcarta.com/23959468

Irondale, 44.04, -122.77 (Marker is the location of the Irondale Iron and Steel Plant Wharf)
https://www.google.com/maps/search/48.044,%20-122.767

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_058_1.jpg

Brotchy Ledge/Brotchie Ledge, 48.41, -123.39 (submerged reef)
https://www.marinetraffic.com/ua/ais/details/lights/1000019200

Haro Strait or Canal de Haro, 48.69, -123.24 (North End)
http://www.geonames.org/maps/google_48.691_-123.244.html

Henry Island, 48.60, -123.19
http://mapcarta.com/23939966

All added to map & ref except Brotchie Ledge. Thanks Danny

Brotchie Ledge seems to be in Canda, British Columbia, and was already present on that reference thread
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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2014, 07:41:52 pm »
The Farallon Islands are also known as "The Farallones".

It might be worth mentioning that "The Golden Gate" refers to the strait bridged by the Golden Gate Bridge - it's pretty obvious, given that any ship mentioning it will be in/around San Francisco, but perhaps it's worth mentioning.

The Farallones, and the correct spanish name Los Farallones, added as aliases of Farallon Islands.
Added Golden Gate as well as a distinct place name. Thanks Danny
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Re: US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2014, 01:25:02 am »
From this nautical chart, the Umatilla Reef Light Ship was actually located quite a way from the reef, at 48.17, -124.84 or so. Whether or not you want to change the entry depends mostly on how much four miles matters to you!

Raccoon Strait, 37.87, -122.45
http://mapcarta.com/23116812

Added Raccoon Strait to map & ref, thanks Danny
For Umatilla Reef Lightship i've mantained the Umatilla Reef Position, and the link to lightship site in the notes - since these vessels have changed position over time and/or were replaced by buoys and lighthouses it would be difficult to track them in the various periods
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