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propriome

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Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« on: March 27, 2013, 07:09:45 pm »
In general, if you are looking for place names or for maps and other useful references, you should go to Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Reference.

You can use this topic to search for information that has not yet been added to the Reference topic.

You can also use this topic to ask for help with reading a Latin American/Caribbean place name or locating the place.
Give us a link to the log page(s) where it is mentioned and tell us approximately where it occurs on the page(s).

Note: Place names include lighthouses.



If you have information about a place name or find a useful reference, please help everyone by contributing it to this topic.

When contributing place names, try to provide as many of the following as possible:
  • Country
  • Name in log
  • Latitude and Longitude (preferably in decimal format with a minimum of one decimal place - two decimal places is the preferred format)
  • Current name (if different)
  • Link to more information
  • Also, in case of problems, a link to the log page(s) where it is mentioned would be helpful
Don't worry if you can't supply all the information. Your link to the page will enable others to search for the missing information.
(You can save us even more work by using the template provided, but that is strictly optional.)
« Last Edit: April 25, 2014, 01:55:03 pm by propriome »

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2014, 02:07:05 pm »
With the creation of the new Reference thread for Latin America and Caribbean place names, we have decided to clean up the discussion thread, in order to keep everything ordered, more usable and searchable.

It would be unfair, however, not to thank and mention all those who contributed to the discussion so far. Without all their efforts, the new reference thread would have been just impossible to create.

Randi
Pommy Stuart
AvastMH (Joan) - who did a really impressive job keeping all places gathered together (special mention)
Janet Jaguar
studentforever
camiller

Thank you!
« Last Edit: April 25, 2014, 02:37:53 pm by propriome »

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2014, 03:17:44 pm »
  :D That reference topic is awesome!
« Last Edit: April 25, 2014, 03:24:02 pm by camiller »

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2014, 07:44:43 pm »
http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008590033
South America pilot. Part II, From the Rio de la Plata to the Bay of Panama : including Magellan Strait, the Falkland and Galapagos Islands / by Captains Phillip Parker King and Robert Fitzroy. 1860

Added to reference thread. Thanks Randi
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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 10:03:30 pm »
Naturally, being so close to Mexico, the Albatross logkeepers have started mentioning things South of the border - insert a suitable Mexican phrase here.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_016_0.jpg

Islas Coronados, 32.42, -117.27
English is "Coronados Islands". Logbook also uses "Los Coronados" the next day.
http://www.geonames.org/4012850/islas-coronados.html

Added to ref, map & csv. Thanks Danny
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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2014, 11:00:01 pm »
Seems the Yorktown went to visit Port au Prince. Haiti

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol005of040_jpg_clean/vol005of040_131_0.jpg

Port-au-Prince
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port-au-Prince


On leaving Port au Prince for Hampton Roads, Virginia:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol005of040_jpg_clean/vol005of040_135_1.jpg

Lamentin Lighthouse   18.55, -72.41
http://www.geonames.org/9881896/pointe-du-lamentin-lighthouse.html

Pelican Cays    18.62, -72.4
http://www.geonames.org/3719130/cayes-du-pelican.html

Ar   Reefs? (The Arcadins?)  18.8, -72.65
In the logbook, the name doesn't seem to be complete as there is a gap before Reefs, however they later mention 'St Marcs point' on stab'd beam. I've found this reference that mentions the 'Arcadins' as three small islets between Port au Prince and St. Marks point. I think this is where they're referring to in the logbook, but I'm not really sure.
Here's the geonames link for the islands.
http://www.geonames.org/3722252/les-arcadins.html

St. Marcs Point  -  19.06, -72.82
http://www.geonames.org/3717584/pointe-de-saint-marc.html


A few places they passed by the Bahamas

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol005of040_jpg_clean/vol005of040_136_1.jpg

Fortune Island (now known as Long Cay)   22.62, -74.33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Cay
http://www.geonames.org/3572011/long-cay.html

Crooked Island Lighthouse (Bird Rock Lighthouse)   22.85, -74.36
http://www.geonames.org/9881915/bird-rock-lighthouse.html


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol005of040_jpg_clean/vol005of040_137_1.jpg

San Salvador lighthouse (Dixon Hill Lighthouse)    24.10, -74.45
http://www.geonames.org/9881916/dixon-hill-lighthouse.html
http://marinas.com/browse/lighthouse/BS/SS/

All added to map, ref & csv. Thanks bluemuffin
For Arcadins Reef it seems the most probable location. The Arcadins islets are surrounded by a large coral reef barrier. If not the islets, the logkeeper is probably referring to the nearby area. No other relevant feature seems to exist in open sea between Pelican Cays and St. Marcs Point
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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2014, 12:02:20 pm »
Hi bluemuffin78 - nice place to be bobbing about on the blue seas! I found this from the Bahamian Government site:

LONG CAY
Long Cay, once known as Fortune Island, is located on the southwestern side of Crooked Island. Albert Town, its main settlement, is now sparsely populated though it was once a prosperous little town. It was engaged in the sponge and salt industries and also served as a port from which stevedores were engaged to serve on the German, American and Dutch boats which then travelled to South America and the Caribbean.

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2015, 10:07:48 pm »
Please can anyone help with what looks like Nitan Morro Id at 8:37 a.m.?  Not sure if I'm reading it correctly.
Thanks!
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%209/IMG_5790_1.jpg

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2015, 11:11:00 pm »
Hi Joan!

Maybe it could be N.tan Morro Id. (Northern/North tangent to Morro Island)...

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2015, 09:46:15 am »
I agree ;)

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2015, 01:48:47 pm »
Oh! - yep that looks like it - thanks! It just didn't go into my brain to link it to the other details on 'tans' below...doh!

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2015, 08:53:46 pm »
 Patterson is now in Panama - just building signals on:

PanamaIsla Otoque8.6029-79.6017Panama

Added to ref, map & csv. Thanks Joan!
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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2015, 11:37:21 am »
Hi Propriome. Subtle one - Patterson is using 'Chami' as an alternative spelling for Chama. The P has been anchoring off 'Chami Pt.' :-)

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2015, 12:33:59 pm »
U.S.C. caused confusion on Jamestown and Concord
     Panama was part of the United States of Colombia from 1863?1886
     Panama was then part of Republic of Colombia from 1886-1903

No, Joan, you don't have anything mixed up. However, we need this info somewhere in the Reference topic to avoid having more people track down the same data.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2015, 07:05:05 pm by Randi »

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Re: Latin American and Caribbean Place Names -- Discussion
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2015, 03:34:22 pm »
Um....Hi Randi, do you think that I've got a couple of places mixed up please....the geography round that area is bitsy. Happy to be put strait staright ;)