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Danny252

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #510 on: November 23, 2014, 12:31:53 pm »
Go away :P

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #511 on: November 23, 2014, 01:33:55 pm »
Oh darn - this is ringing such a bell...where did I see it in a log? Aaagghh! When I recall where I left my  memory all will be well.

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #512 on: November 23, 2014, 06:16:53 pm »
Wonderful!!!   ;D 8)  This is the log page I've been waiting for since last April!!  We now have the first and only record being sent to the AVO that puts an exact date and lat/long on that postcard and temporary volcanoe!!

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg87165#msg87165


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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #513 on: November 23, 2014, 06:28:21 pm »
Elizabeth found it!!!   ;D 8)
Thursday, July 5 1906   12.45pm

"Meridian to 4pm watch:
...12.30 ahead for Bogoslov Island and 12.45 stopped sent cutter with officers to explore the Island and photograph same.  3.20 boat returned. ..."

Position at noon:  Bogoslov Vol. WSW1/4W distance 7 miles
Position at 8pm:  Latitude by D.R.  53 50 0 N
                             Longitude by D.R.  169 10 0 W



:o :o I think I have it.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_1.jpg

July 5 1906   


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_0.jpg

I am assuming DR on the Latitude and Longitude  means dead reckoning  ???

We set off an interesting email conversation between Cheryl (AVO), Christina (USGS) and Ed (UK Met Office studying volcano affecting weather) and our Kevin.  In reverse order, as is normal in emails with multiple replies.

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Cool!

Interesting that someone put it in Wikimedia commons ? I?ve known about this version for awhile: http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/461/rec/6 but haven?t been able to obtain authoritative permission to put it in AVO?s image database. UA wanted $ to let it go. And then I think ?1906 is before 1923 copyright laws. I should use it anyway? and then I think ?AVO doesn?t have money in case someone wanted to fight about it??

Thanks,
cheryl

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Hi everyone -
This postcard from 1906 was posted by (Randi I think?) and I've been meaning to send it on to AVO.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Perry_Island_postcard.jpg
- Kevin



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What a wonderful collaboration! A happy outcome of social media portals!

Christina

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We did know of an eruption ?in the summer? of 1898 at Shishaldin ? traders reported it to the author of an article in National Geographic. If this eruption was a typical Shishaldin eruption, we can guess that eruptive activity continued intermittently for a few months. It?s nice to have a confirmed ?April 29th? date and independent observation of actual eruption!
 
I find that many historical eruption accounts are embellished or unclear, so I really appreciate having written documentation from two different sources of the same eruption. This one confirms both ?actual eruption? and the timeframe, so that is quite nice.
 
Thank you everyone!
-cheryl
 
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Hi Janet,
Nice. Looks like this eruption is not on the AVO list of recorded eruptions for Shishaldin? Or at least, there is now a better date?
Thanks,
Ed.

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wow!  Cool, thanks Janet.  I'm sure Cheryl will pull this for our archives.  Such wonderful tidbits of history.

Christina

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On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Janet Bein <janet2357@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hello,
We have a date for an 1898 eruption.  http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg87069;topicseen#msg87069
 
USRC Bear  April 29, 1898  at sea near Dutch Harbor, Alaska
3:00am Shishaldin Volcano in eruption, smoke and flames.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol079/vol079_164_1.jpg
 
Weather, courses and bearings, 8pm April 28th:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol079/vol079_163_0.jpg   54o 12? N, 166 o 16? W
Weather, courses and bearings, 8am April 29th:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol079/vol079_164_0.jpg  54 o 18? N, 165 o 02? W
Sailing is not in a straight line, course noted in above links.
 
Take care,
Janet

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #514 on: November 23, 2014, 11:17:10 pm »
July 29 1906   New Island was noticed to have nearly ceased smoking, small amount of smoke visible coming from  sides, about halfway from base.A small spot of fire visible on near side.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol183/vol183_026_1.jpg

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #515 on: November 24, 2014, 12:40:44 am »
Cool, Elizabeth, I've added to the AVO report.  :)

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #516 on: November 25, 2014, 09:40:08 pm »
Thetis, 15 Jan 1889

Between 7.55 and 11pm the moon was partially eclipsed by the earth.

This was just after an eclipse of the sun on 1 January.  The world must be coming to an end.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_175_1.jpg

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #517 on: November 25, 2014, 11:52:53 pm »
Strange and wonderful events.

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« Reply #518 on: November 26, 2014, 09:59:46 pm »
Can't imagine how that went down in China - the Dragon swallowing the sun and having a chunk of the moon for pud!

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #519 on: November 26, 2014, 10:52:50 pm »
If the sun eclipsed starting after noon in California, China probably never saw it.  I hope it missed all cultures that see that as evil and not just strange.

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #520 on: December 09, 2014, 09:25:29 am »
I think this has to do with the Pavlof volcano, which was already mentioned several times in the Patterson's logs:

October 12th, 1915, first paragraph

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2019/IMG_6899_1.jpg

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Lt volcanic dust in the air

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #521 on: December 09, 2014, 09:41:31 am »
I think this has to do with the Pavlof volcano, which was already mentioned several times in the Patterson's logs:

October 12th, 1915, first paragraph

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2019/IMG_6899_1.jpg

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Lt volcanic dust in the air

 8) I just love this kind of stuff.

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #522 on: December 09, 2014, 01:40:36 pm »
The only 1915 activity found for Pavlof is Patterson's observations of an August "tephra plume".  I'll send them word of this also, but this is very vague with no mention of which volcano the dust came from.  I doubt they will post it but we will see.



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My guess is that this is redistributed Katmai 1912 ash, but that doesn?t jive with the SW winds. I?ll file this away in case it fits with something later.
Thanks!
-cheryl
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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #523 on: December 10, 2014, 08:18:44 pm »

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Re: Natural Phenomena
« Reply #524 on: December 20, 2014, 08:20:39 pm »
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol184/vol184_175_1.jpg
8 am - Merid.
Mt Akutan Volcano emitting considerable smoke.
6pm - 8pm
[tried to observe Fire Island for changes in formation, but conditions unfavourable] Some unfamiliar ?? rocks between Castle and Perry Islands

2 q's: Can anyone read the word before 'rocks'? Looks like Spinach to me but that can't be right.  ::)
And is this latter observation worth putting in the volcanic activity thread? Ok, I just have, but for future reference...  ;D
« Last Edit: December 20, 2014, 08:22:21 pm by exim202 »