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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2013, 03:03:22 pm »
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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2013, 03:04:48 pm »
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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2013, 12:04:14 am »
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Anna hootz the Indian Policeman seized a canoe with "hootchenoo" in it and brought it alongside. For a punishment and as a warning to the others returned the goods but destroyed the hootchenoo and broke up the canoe

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol042of040/vol042of067_030_1.jpg

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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2013, 12:16:19 am »
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At 7.50 PM discovered the U.S. Custom House on fire and sent first and second cutters with working parties, two fire extinguishers, one pump and hose to extinguish fire.

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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2013, 12:50:44 am »
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Anna hootz the Indian Policeman seized a canoe with "hootchenoo" in it and brought it alongside. For a punishment and as a warning to the others returned the goods but destroyed the hootchenoo and broke up the canoe

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol042of040/vol042of067_030_1.jpg

Now this one had several words that had me wondering what and who exactly they were talking about.  Googling "hootchenoo" and "Annahootz Tlingit" proved to be very simple and productive.  :)

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hoo?chi?noo  [hoo-chuh-noo, hoo-chuh-noo] 
noun, plural hoo?chi?noos.
a type of distilled liquor made by Alaskan Indians.
Also, hootchinoo.
Origin:
1875?80,  Americanism; orig. the name of a Tlingit village on Admiralty Island, Alaska, reputed to be a source of illicit liquor; alteration of Tlingit xucnu?w?  literally, brown bear's fort ( x??c  brown bear + nu?w  fortified place)

image: http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg21/id/1024/rec/1
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Title   Indian Police Force, Sitka 1881.
Description   Title taken from accompanying text.
Text: In the foreground is Annahootz and beside him is Mary Klan Tech daughter of a subchief of the Kokwanton clan. Mary was sent by Annahootz to warn the white population of Sitka on the night of February 6th. The other policemen cannot be positively identified although an attempt was made to compare them with later known photographs of Katlean, Sitka Jack and Dick Tagich who along with Annahootz were the first Indian policemen appointed by the Navy governors. Beardslee immediately saw the benefits of appointing Indian police officers to control their own people. He enrolled selected and reliable members of the local clans on the Jamestown's roster so that they could be paid a salary as crewmen. They were also given naval uniforms and Annahootz as Chief of the Indian Police is shown in the photograph wearing a naval officer's uniform. The Indian police system was continued and expanded by Beardslee's successors and also by the first civil governors of Alaska.
From: Armed Forces on the West Coast.  Edited by John Lengellier. Article: "Law and Order on the Alaska Frontier: the Period of Naval Rule (1879-1884)."
(Googling "Annahootz" gets a very modern site: http://annahootzadventures.com/index.php
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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2013, 01:06:55 am »
Good find, Janet. Kevin made a post about hooch some time ago in the Yukon logs.

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3346.msg64361;topicseen#msg64361

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3346.msg64904#msg64904

Have another look at my two (above) posts together  ;D
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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2013, 01:10:19 am »
Someone was real upset about the fate of the hootchinoo, for sure!

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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2013, 07:39:06 am »
Fascinating about the Indian Police Force, Janet!

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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2013, 02:43:07 pm »
The log keeper has begun to record on a consistent basis the temperature on shore in the column with heading "State of the Sea".

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol042of040/vol042of067_061_0.jpg

Is the science team interested in this?
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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2013, 03:25:02 pm »
I have asked Philip.

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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2013, 10:42:05 pm »
gastcra (Craig) passes the 4000 mark!


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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2013, 10:44:00 pm »
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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2013, 12:34:10 am »

January 6, 1880 (even though the log says 1879)

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This being the Christmas of the Greek Church, and there being much suffering among the poor, on account of the unprecedented cold weather, A quantity of beef and bread amounting to   lbs of the former and    lbs of the latter, was given to the poor as the contribution of the Government in assistance of a charitable ~ which was being made by citizens of Sitka and officers of the ship the provisions & other presents were divided equitably between the Creoles and Indians.

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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2013, 01:11:53 am »
a nice gesture.  Merry Christmas to the Russian peasants.  :)

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Re: Jamestown (1879) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2013, 07:31:36 am »
That is very nice!

I have seen some other references to Greek Orthodox Christians in Alaska. I suppose that that is not surprising given that the US bought Alaska from Russia. - Although Russian Orthodox would seem more likely :-\
(Maybe this explains it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church#Orthodox_Church_in_America_.28OCA.29 ?)

I think the ~ is issueand also the word you transcribed as given may be issued.
(Also, "This being" should probably be "This day being")
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