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Punx

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Re: Albatross (1900) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2013, 06:40:51 pm »
That's pretty neat Randi!

Although it seems I've edited too many pages and I can't get back to that one to edit it (only get the 17th from 'My Old Weather' page /o\ )

Is there any way to go back and fix things from before that?

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Re: Re: Albatross (1900) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2013, 07:06:06 pm »
Definitely yes - you are far from the first to decipher a repeatedly used scribble several pages late.

At the top of your interface page, you will see your Username inside a blue box.  The drop down menu from that will give you several choices.  My Old Weather is your profile page - it lists all the ships you've tried that you might want to return to (or not), and at the very bottom icons for the last 10 pages you did.  My Pages gives you every ship you worked on (again).  (It seems to be down right now, at least for me, but it usually works fine.)  Clicking "view logs" for the relevant ship will give you access to every page you ever finished.

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Re: Re: Albatross (1900) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2013, 07:10:37 pm »
http://www.oldweather.org/my_pages
It is currently working for me...



PS - I like to bookmark my ship(s) for example: http://www.oldweather.org/ships/5143570aa2fc8e0a3f000002

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Re: Re: Albatross (1900) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2013, 07:14:12 pm »
Got it and fixed it, Thanks so much!

Sorry for spamming this crew thread with my newbness /o\

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Re: Re: Albatross (1900) -- Crew Lists
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2013, 07:16:38 pm »
The forum is here to help :)

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2013, 07:22:15 pm »
Questions like that are never spamming - ask as they occur to you, Punx.  But you are right, this board's moderators (Propriome and AvastMH) don't like conversation interrupting their crew lists.  That's my job to fix, I'm moving this to the topic for newbie questions.  :)
« Last Edit: October 19, 2013, 02:24:11 pm by Janet Jaguar »

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2013, 04:30:00 am »
Just a reminder, this is a friendly forum and we like answering simple questions as well as the complex.  Newbies are welcome with pleasure to ask whatever.

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2013, 08:25:00 pm »
On log transcriptions (right hand page), I understand that the DATE is essential and everything else is optional but that we have been requested to include specific information if possible about animals seen, refueling, appearance of sea ice, and people or ships mentioned.

So far I have been approaching this in a fairly haphazard manner. On a page where my ship has just been moving about "At Sea" where the only log recordings have been about sail changes and course changes, I have only included the date. If an occasional seal (or some number of seals) or ship has been seen, I have included those as separate entries through the interface, selecting just the text of note and providing a transcription or seal count, etc.

But, sometimes I have transcribed whole pages. And I have a few questions about this approach. What I have been doing so far is to select the text for a particular watch segment (e.g. 8 am to Merid) and then just typing this in as an "Event" then doing the same for the next segment, etc. until the whole page has been entered as a series of "Events".

My questions are:
     (1) If the text I am transcribing includes specific information about, for instance, seals being seen, or coal received, should I add another overlapping transcription/block covering that event (and entering the data under "Refueling" or "Animals" etc.)? Or is it enough that the information has already been transcribed in the whole block of text that has already been transcribed as an "Event"? So far, I have done used both approaches, but the difficulty with adding "overlapping" selection blocks is that the interface seems to have a difficult time with that.
     (2) Sometimes the text of the log for a watch segment is written as a whole paragraph, but sometimes it is broken into multiple paragraphs. I have not been able to figure out how to insert a paragraph break in the "Event" transcription block (where I am typing the text), and so I have just been typing it in as a single paragraph of text. Is this ok? Or should I be doing this another way (say, using a new "Event" transcription for each paragraph)?
     (3) I have NOT been including the name of the officer who is on duty (which follows each watch segment text), but only the text of the log itself, including the time it covers. Should I go ahead and start adding those names? Should I go back and add those names to ones I have already transcribed?

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2013, 08:46:52 pm by rbertin1068 »

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2013, 08:56:51 pm »
(1) If the text I am transcribing includes specific information about, for instance, seals being seen, or coal received, should I add another overlapping transcription/block covering that event (and entering the data under "Refueling" or "Animals" etc.)?

At the moment I am transcribing whole pages from Jamestown (I do it as a single event, but watch by watch is fine too - I may change). For animals, mentions, locations, etc, I add the appropriate event. I think it is much better to to it this way because some specialist users may search only the specific events. Attached is an example of how I handle the overlap. It works well for me, but you don't have to do it that way.



(2) Sometimes the text of the log for a watch segment is written as a whole paragraph, but sometimes it is broken into multiple paragraphs.

Typing it in as a single paragraph is fine. I often add a few extra spaces to separate paragraphs. We have already asked for a way to indicate line breaks. Once we have that, we will be able to show paragraphs.



(3) I have NOT been including the name of the officer who is on duty (which follows each watch segment text), but only the text of the log itself, including the time it covers. Should I go ahead and start adding those names? Should I go back and add those names to ones I have already transcribed?

In any case, don't change what you have already transcribed.
I am transcribing all the watches together, so I include the officer's names because they are in the middle of the event (Type What You See).
If you are using separate events for each watch, you can stop just before the name without violating TWYS ;)




If this isn't clear or you have more questions, let me know!
« Last Edit: December 15, 2013, 09:07:22 pm by Randi »

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2014, 11:23:45 pm »
Is there a place to find starting instructions?  As in, I have successfully registered, been approved, and logged in.  Where do I find a log to work on?  - Thanks

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2014, 11:32:45 pm »
Hello Manegold! Welcome to OW, especially the forum. I'm sure that the moderators are whizzing a beautiful reply together for you right now. I was just 'passing by' so thought I'd say hi. I hope you'll enjoy OW transcription work. :D
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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2014, 11:53:05 pm »
Is there a place to find starting instructions?  As in, I have successfully registered, been approved, and logged in.  Where do I find a log to work on?  - Thanks

Hi, manegold - the interface for doing transcriptions is here: http://www.oldweather.org/
Just do the entire tutorial, and then transcribe the default ship they give you; all of these were picked as the simpler ones to get people started.  And then come back here to get answers to your questions.

Some posts that may be particularly helpful while you are still learning:
     Ask for expert advice asks a moderator to check the first pages you have finished.  There may be a little longer wait for an answer here, since the veteran members cannot do this, but it is very specific help for the things you are guessing at.

And there are Guides for US logs: drawing entry boxes, transcribing and editing, more complete than we could make the tutorial, that may also be helpful.

Good luck - this can be a very interesting project. :)
« Last Edit: February 08, 2014, 12:05:53 am by Janet Jaguar »

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2014, 07:45:10 am »
Welcome to the forum family!

Once you get to your ship, be sure to check the Forum links
Sample transcriptions
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Ask questions

You can change ships any time, but as Janet says, we have tried to select some easier ships for new transcribers.

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2014, 03:08:18 pm »
An elementary question - but I can't find the answer!  Is there a way of saving what I have done on a page so I can return and finish it later?

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Re: Got a question? Old hands are here to help
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2014, 03:45:32 pm »
You can click on "I've finished with this page" and then go into edit to make additions or changes.

To edit a page place your cursor over the box with your name at the top right and select either "My Old Weather" or "My Pages" from the list.

NOTE: Weather observations added while you are editing will be used, but they do not get included in your total count.