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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2014, 02:34:33 am »
EVERYONE: Please add any sources that you have for ship names that are not already in Helpful Links to Outside Information.

We have lots of excellent references, but they tend to be only at the point where the question was asked.


Randi,

   I found this link was very helpful:

List of Ship Names of the Royal Navy

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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2014, 07:32:41 am »
Very helpful! I have used it a lot.
I didn't realize that it wasn't in "Helpful Links to Outside Information."

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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2014, 01:21:19 pm »
It is and has always been on the official list.  I just didn't put "Wikipedia" first.

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Ship Names of the Royal Navy (Wikipedia) - A listing of the correct spelling of the names of the more than 13,000 ships that have served in the Royal Navy, with links to articles on individual ships where they exist.

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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2014, 07:30:23 pm »
Janet - Unfortunately, it was removed from "Helpful Links to Outside Information".
The link you give is only for editors.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 07:40:09 pm by Randi »

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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2014, 11:17:26 pm »
Ahhh - I was looking at the Archived list that kept all the RN links we had found without cluttering them up with the new American links.  It is in the Editorial Office. http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3045.0

Do want them merged?  it would be very, very long.


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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2014, 07:19:56 am »
The US ships meet a lot of RN ships...
At least "List of Ship Names of the Royal Navy" should be put back in the public list. Or, perhaps the editor's hidden list for UK ships should be kept separate but moved back to the public boards.

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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2014, 07:50:15 am »
Point.  I put it back in, but added to it to show the greater possibilities for ship lists in Wiki.

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(Wikipedia) Royal Navy and other ships - A listing of the correct spelling of the names of the more than 13,000 ships that have served in the Royal Navy over all time, with links to articles on individual ships where they exist.  NOTE: There are hundreds of ship lists in Wikipedia, including those of many of the world's navies.  See Search results: Lists of navy ships and use the browser Find function to locate nationality; don't forget to also try the next 500 list page.

Do transcribers of American ships want it here?  Or would you all just like to request a few more items copied into the public list?  I started this one with a large overlap of useful places, it wouldn't hurt anything to add a few more.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2014, 07:59:03 am by Janet Jaguar »

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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2014, 12:27:11 pm »
I was just wondering if the best thing to do would be to copy the editor's version to this topic. That way all the info is available, but less useful sources don't clutter up "Helpful Links to Outside Information".

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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2014, 02:09:07 pm »
That will work.  It is a bit smaller than the current list, precisely because of the overlap.

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Re: Ship: Name information sources
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2014, 02:09:35 pm »


This is the unmodified final version used for Phase I and II.  If you also wish to see newer links for the arctic ships, please go to Helpful Links in the FAQ board.
Here are some links that may help you with everything from locations to historic context.  The addresses are embedded in the titles, so just click on the blue text.  If you would like to submit a link for inclusion in the new active list, please post it here.
If you want to add a link for editors to use on this list, just use 'Reply', this list is not locked.



THE SHIPS

Naval-History.net Complete List of RN war ships - All the Warships, Auxiliary Patrol vessels, and many Support vessels in WW1 from the following 3 categories in a single index by name - wonderful.  Many of the same vessels are now also sorted by Pendant Numbers, Admiralty Numbers, Motor Boat Numbers, and Fishing Port Registration Numbers; see top of index page for those links.

Naval-History.net Complete List of RN SHIPS OF WAR - From capital ships to motor launches, all the warships ever involved in WW1 sorted by type.

Naval-History.net Complete List of RN AUXILIARY PATROL VESSELS - All the hired yachts, Admiralty and hired trawlers, Fishery Reserve vessels, whalers, Admiralty, hired steam and motor drifters ever involved in WW1 sorted by type.    See also Gordon's page listing all the US-built ELCO MOTOR LAUNCHES.

Naval-History.net Complete List of SUPPORT and HARBOUR VESSELS - The UK private support and harbour vessels involved in WW1 sorted by type, compiled by our own Gordon Smith.  Still a work in progress.

Clydebuilt Ships Database - Complete data with some pictures of 200 years of ships built on the River Clyde, merchant and naval. 

Haze Gray & Underway Search Engine - Another search engine for looking up info about ships.  At the time this links page was under construction, so use the substitute search engine under the main one.

Historic Naval Ships Association - Huge amount of information about all things Navy, from broad overviews to things as specific as explanations of the hydraulic catapults in Essex class carriers.  Sound fun?  Wanna see the manual?  No kidding, all the manuals to every little thing are on this site.  Endlessly fascinating site.

Lloyd's Register Of Ships - Here you will find the registration details of a vessel such as the rigging, the tonnage, dimensions, propulsion, owners and her Master. These have been transcribed from the Lloyd's Register of British and Foreign Shipping from 1764 up to 2003, by Gilbert Provost with assistance from Pauline Joicey.

Mid-Victorian Royal Navy - Excellent catch-all site with info about ships, officers and more.

Naval-History.net List of our RN transcribed fleet - All the ships we have finished transcribing and are now actively editing.

RN Destroyer Pendant Numbers - discussion concerning the "pendant numbers" used by RN destroyers during the Great War.

Royal Navy Log Books of the World War 1 Era - An Old Weather Citizen History Project - All of our edited RN logs, and those waiting to be edited.

Old Ship Picture Galleries - An enormous database of pictures. You can probably find yours here.

Probert Encyclopedia - Ships - Another place to find information on your ships.

Roll of Honour - List of the many naval and merchant ships lost during the war, including the German ships interned at Scapa Flow.  They ask that users of their data and pictures always credit them as the source.

Royal Fleet Auxiliary - List of Royal Fleet Auxiliary ship names

Ship Index Org - Tells you which books, magazines, and online resources mention the vessels you're researching. With 142,804 entries in the free database and 1,515,323 entries available with premium access, you're bound to find useful information here.

The Ships List - There were a great many companies involved in the ocean trade. The Ships List attempts to collect the names of the companies and present a brief history of each and the names of the vessels they used.

Ship Names of the Royal Navy (Wikipedia) - A listing of the correct spelling of the names of the more than 13,000 ships that have served in the Royal Navy, with links to articles on individual ships where they exist.

WreckSite - If your ship now resides on the ocean floor, chances are there's information about it right here.

Annual List of Merchant Vessels of the United States - US merchant ships with official numbers and signal letters, 1895 onwards

South American merchant vessels - The text is in Spanish.

OFFICERS

British Military/Navy lists 1913, 1914, 1918, 1919, 1920 and more. Very useful for finding names.  Go to the volume of your current month and year, and then find your ship in the Ships - Alphabetical List of, with their Officers, and present Stations section. Maintained online by the National Library of Scotland.


CODES AND OTHER ABBREVIATIONS

Abbreviations used in the World War One Medal Cards - Large list of abbreviations used in all branches of U.K. and other militaries.

Abbreviations (General U.K. military) - Large list of abbreviations used in all branches of U.K. military.

Signal Flags - An explanation of how these were used, and the code indicated by the "Signal Book Correct" phrase/abbreviation in the logs.

Weather Codes - B? C? BC? Huh?  Here's a chart that explains all the Beaufort weather codes you see every day on Old Weather's ship's logs!

Weather Codes (again) - This is an image of a log book page with weather codes explained.  Not as complete as the Beaufort Codes page elsewhere in these links, but nice to see.


LIGHTHOUSES


Amateur Radio Lighthouse Society - ARLHS World List of Lights (WLOL).

Brazilian Lighthouses - Extensive site with links to (you guessed it) Brazilian lighthouses.

The Lighthouse Directory - Provides information and links for more than 13,300 of the world's lighthouses.

Lighthouse Depot - A good search engine for lighthouses; no location information included, but searching for keywords "Gozo Light", for example, will tell you "Giordan Light" is on Gozo Island, Malta.

American practical navigator: an epitome of navigation and nautical astronomy 1916 - Section 1 Appendix IV lists just about every port and lighthouse in the world by Lat.Long. location, alphabetical index at the end.  The rest of the book teaches everything anyone might want to know about navigation.

Lighthouses of China: Hong Kong - If you need info on lighthouses in Hong Kong Harbor, this is the link for you.


FINDING LOCATIONS AND OBJECTS

David Rumsey Map Collection - An enormous archive of maps both current and archaic.

Fuzzy Gazetteer - Outstanding resource where you can plug in that place name you can't quite read all the letters of, and it will come back with potentially correct names

Geographical Names - National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Bethesda, MD, USA.  They offer alphabetical lookup of places.  If you're trying to figure out just what it says in the location box on a log sheet, this site might help.

Google Maps - Quickly become the standard.

Probert Encyclopedia - Archaic Maps - Maps of the world at different points in time.  Borders change, country names change.  Something mentioned in a log from 1916 may not make sense when looking at today's maps, so this is quite helpful.

Wuvulu Website - The Western Islands of the Bismarck Archipelago - A comprehensive, annotated index of current and historical names of all the islands in the Western Islands of the Bismarck Archipelago as well as other indexes and relevant information necessary to conduct bibliographic, historical and general research regarding the Western Islands.

American practical navigator: an epitome of navigation and nautical astronomy 1916 - See description in Lighthouses, above.

Asiatic Pilot, African Pilot, British Isles Pilot, etc. 1915 to 1925 - Detailed description of landmarks and English names for every coast in the world by the United States Hydrographic Office. Superb name finder, with them listed in the order the ship sails past them.

Names of places on the China coast and the Yangtze River 1904 - by order of the Shanghai Inspector General of Customs, listing names in English and Chinese and the customs district, prefecture and sub-prefecture it belongs to.

Handbook to the West River 1904 - A Hong Kong tourist brochure pushing vacation cruises, complete with place names, pictures and a full size map!

HISTORICAL BACKGROUND & RESEARCH TOOLS

Articles of War - The 1866 version of the "Articles of War" read to the sailors on all of our ships.  The 1884 version does not seem to be digitized, but a listing of the changes made through 1884 (the version our sailors heard) can be found at Legislation concerning....  The earlier version of 1757 with its more draconian punishments can be found at this link.

Britain At War Magazine - A nicely done online magazine with plenty of historical info and interesting articles.

Chinese History by Geography - A site of short summaries of the history of many cities and areas within China.

FirstWorldWar.com - An overview of the Great War.

Kings Regulations & Admiralty Instructions - All the rules, regs and procedures that the officers and men of the Royal Navy lived by.  This site can help you make sense of things written in the events column.

National Archives (U.K.) - A good resource for research.

Naval-History.net - Nearly everything you would ever want to known about the histories of various Navies in several wars.  Everything from casualty lists to war diaries to in-depth info about the ships and men.  And it's run by one of Old Weather's science team members, Gordon Smith (with great assists from Don Kindall, our own Kin47!)
    Sections that might be helpful to editors:

    NavHist - Naval History via Flix.  A listing of ships and everything attached to them.

    New York Times Archive 1851-1980 - Cost-prohibitive, but very useful if you are inclined to shell out the bucks.

    PapersPast - A newspaper search engine. 

    Pathe Newsreels - You've seen 'em on TV, now you can access them Online and even search for newsreels covering specific topics.  Warning: it's very easy to get lost for hours watching these!

    Royal Navy - All kinds of sub-links from this, including one to "History", where you can choose different eras, including 1914-1939.

    WWI - The War At Sea - A section of the WWI/WWW which provides resources for doing historic research on the naval side of the conflict.


    WEATHER-SPECIFIC SITES

    Amateur Hobbyist Weather Sites - This is a link to links, basically.  Here you'll find links to a small stack of ameteur weather observation websites.

    Cloud Observers - Here's their Mission Statement: 'To keep the Meteorological Observers Branch alive and to foster good relations with members young and old. To establish and promote links with other Fleet Air Arm Branches.'

    MARINE OBSERVATIONS OF OLD WEATHER - - Published results from OldWeather's predecessor.



    MISCELLANY

    Reaumur temperature conversion - Link to a Wikipedia page about Reaumur scale with conversion table between different temperature measure units and Reaumur temperature conversion forumlae.

    Boxing the Compass - Boxing the compass is the action of naming all thirty-two principal points of the compass in clockwise order. Such names, formed by the initials of the cardinal directions and their intermediate ordinal directions, are accepted internationally, even though they have their origin in the English language, and are very handy to refer to a heading (or course or azimuth) in a general or colloquial fashion, without having to resort to computing or recalling degrees.

    The Navy Everywhere - This e-book, The Navy Everywhere by Conrad Gato, gives good details of naval opps throughout WWI. Written in 1919.

    Rigging For Landlubbers - Interesting site that explains the specifics of various methods of rigging a ship, from Halyards to Shrouds, Backstays to Leechlines. 

    NAVY MANUALS AND DOCUMENTS ONLINE (Historic Naval Ships Association) - Many how-to books and documents printed by navies for their officers to use, ranging from the "Textbook of Seamanship" 1891 to Gunnery and Foundry manuals to WWII submarines.  [/list]
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    Re: Ship: Name information sources
    « Reply #40 on: July 17, 2014, 03:58:10 pm »
    That will work.  It is a bit smaller than the current list, precisely because of the overlap.

    Thank you, Randi and Janet! This is a great source. I find the lists helpful when trying to decipher bad handwriting, and when a "new" ship appears on the scene. The Wiki search link was also really handy. (I've bookmarked that, too.)

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    Re: Ship: Name information sources
    « Reply #41 on: January 22, 2015, 07:15:20 pm »

    THE SHIPS

    Ship Index Org - Tells you which books, magazines, and online resources mention the vessels you're researching. With 142,804 entries in the free database and 1,515,323 entries available with premium access, you're bound to find useful information here.


    Ship Index Org has changed its URL - now at http://www.shipindex.org/

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    Re: Ship: Name information sources
    « Reply #42 on: January 22, 2015, 08:11:06 pm »

    THE SHIPS

    Ship Index Org - Tells you which books, magazines, and online resources mention the vessels you're researching. With 142,804 entries in the free database and 1,515,323 entries available with premium access, you're bound to find useful information here.


    All current and archived reference posts now updated.  :)

    Ship Index Org has changed its URL - now at http://www.shipindex.org/

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    Re: Ship: Name information sources
    « Reply #43 on: January 28, 2015, 08:47:05 pm »
    Some helpful references for finding Belgian ships, supplied by lollia paolina (Silvia):

    http://www.navidoc-marines.be/fichiers/excel/Phototheque.pdf
    http://roc.forumactif.com/t136-c-s-des-navires-belges
    http://www.vliz.be/cijfers_beleid/zeevisserij/fleet.php?show=result

    Silvia has also made a list of Belgian Relief ships from this site:
    http://findingaids.stanford.edu/xtf/view?docId=ead/hoover/crb.xml;chunk.id=dsc-1.7.6;brand=default
    SS Imo is missing from the list but has been reported in at least one log as a Belgian Relief ship.
    See the pdf below.

    Su is also working on a list of Belgian Relief ships.
    It's available to view here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K4mX8cFfs28OfQvGs0tsPcLzLYQN74_dvlD0ENErzOk/edit?usp=sharing

    Thanks for sharing these lists, Silvia and Su.
    « Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 07:38:36 am by Caro »

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    Re: Ship: Name information sources
    « Reply #44 on: January 29, 2015, 10:08:55 am »
    Some of the newspapers in the California Digital Newspaper Collection include regular shipping reports (notably the SF Call and LA Herald around the turn of the century). The collection can be accessed at:

    http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc

    For example, the edition of the San Francisco Call from 01/04/1901 lists arrivals and departures from San Francisco the previous day, as well as a list of "remote" arrivals and departures reported by telegraph. The adjacent column lists the expected arrivals and departures for the next week, and further to the right are various advertisements by shipping companies, often giving the names of their vessels and their routes.
    « Last Edit: January 29, 2015, 10:11:29 am by Danny252 »