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philip.brohan

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More than just a wizard
« on: December 06, 2013, 09:44:20 am »
I did not know that Radagast the Brown included climate modelling among his skills, but you should never underestimate a wizard, and he has just published the first paper I've seen simulating and studying the climate of Tolkein's 'Middle Earth'. (I think he's been on sabbatical at the Cabot Institute in Bristol).

It's available in Dwarven, Elvish, and boring old English versions, and is a rather good introduction to the art of climate modelling.

http://www.bris.ac.uk/cabot/news/2013/390.html

It's a while since I read Tolkein, but I remember a few notable voyages from that great mariner Earendil. I wonder if he kept a log?
« Last Edit: December 06, 2013, 09:47:00 am by philip.brohan »

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2013, 10:02:14 am »
Wacky but wonderful. 
(This comment relates to the English version. I understand neither Dwarven nor Elvish.)
Thanks Philip.  :)

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2013, 10:02:53 am »
:D

Earendil logbooks would be quite fascinating... with a good Tengwar reference and Elven-to-English dictionary we could attempt :P ;D
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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2013, 10:59:13 am »
Weird but interesting  :D

I think Radagast deserves an Ig Nobel for this.

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2013, 11:21:22 am »
Great fun, might even interest some literature fans in science and meteorology.  Have enough problems with the English version and I'm not sure that my Elvish let alone my Dwarfish is up to it.

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2013, 11:45:54 am »
If I remember correctly, the tree-people in the Lord of the Rings (forget their name) were able to walk. This might be a challenge to model  ;D

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2013, 12:18:22 pm »
The film makers CGI managed quite well.  Treebeard the Ent looked quite convincing but then he didn't have a spreading canopy of leaves.

I think you would have to postulate quite a neat set of branches otherwise your ent would be unstable and the gait would be ridiculous.  The trunk would be the heaviest and lowest part of the Ent apart from the mobile roots. One thing that could change is the interaction of roots and earth, if you postulate variable adhesion the the biomechanics becomes simpler (wouldn't like to attempt it now though).

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2013, 12:25:17 pm »
Yes, Ents. Variable adhesion sounds plausible  ;D

They would need to keep track of them by satellite. Or perhaps a crowd-sourcing project?  ;D

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2013, 02:09:50 pm »
However, the Ents didn't have a written language of their own so they would only want an audio version. If I remember rightly that would take a loooooooooooong time.

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2013, 02:40:27 pm »
For accuracy's sake, the Ents have legs and feet.  It is the Hourn that are the "Walking Trees". The Ents are their shepards.

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2013, 02:55:55 pm »
If that's the case, we only have to monitor the Hourn. This is turning into a possible geo-engineering project.

You two have good memories  8). It's been 35 years since I read the trilogy. I saw one of the Lord of the Rings movies. It was good if you like to watch battles.

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2013, 04:35:54 pm »
Actually, the correct spelling is Huorns.
I wouldn't want to monitor them, though - according to the LOTR Wiki, Huorns will attack anything on two feet unless an Ent stops them.
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Huorn

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2013, 05:21:24 pm »
OK, we'll have to use drones, then  :D

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2013, 05:23:23 pm »

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Re: More than just a wizard
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2013, 05:42:13 pm »
Of course - smart cat!!! ;D