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Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« on: September 25, 2014, 05:32:40 pm »
Very interesting article on how new technology, big data and amateur's observations (Sadly, OW is not mentioned) are helping improve weather predictions:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29256322

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2014, 09:47:46 pm »
Interesting!  :) Such a shame that we never seem to get mentions..what's that all about? ::)

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2014, 11:12:59 pm »
We don't get a mention because our observations are back in the past. I looked on the WOW site for my part of the world, and there was only one station. Using Weather Underground, there are many, many stations. Perhaps the Met Office WOW people should look at getting data from them, too.

Here is the URL for the Weather Underground Map

It's very cool!

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 11:58:16 pm »
It looks like they are calling in the official US weather stations, but not Canada's in Vancouver!!  That doesn't make sense.  At least they are publishing their results.

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2014, 01:09:09 am »
No, these are volunteer weather stations, not the "official" ones. It looks to me like a person has to register with the Met Office WOW site to get their weather on the WOW site. The Met Office, like all the other big agencies, would get all the national weather observations. When I was in the Yukon Weather Centre we got weather observations from all over the world, but only "official" weather, not the kind of reports that Weather Underground gets. The weather underground stations, I suspect, are from people with little weather stations that are hooked up to their computers. You can see, though, from the map that there are lots of them.

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2014, 02:58:58 am »
I've seen weather underground stations - used them to get close-to-home readings until that station shut down.  I'm surprised they aren't mined for their data more often.

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2014, 01:54:37 pm »
A good place for US and SOME Canadian data is www.CoCoRaHS.org.  It's where many of us post our daily readings which are studied by the University of Colorado AND immediately transmitted to the National Weather Service.  Great Blog too!!

My Station ID is NY-NG-2 if you want to see what we do.

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2014, 05:27:38 am »
Some of our data will probably be crunched through this new toy for the Met Office. I'm sure the numbers mean something to some of our computing geeks but to me it just sounds BIG!!!
 :D :D :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29789208



fixed link ;)
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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2014, 07:29:37 am »
 :)  8)

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2014, 08:16:59 pm »
Sixteen petaflops sounds seriously impressive to me.  :)

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2014, 11:25:20 pm »
To put that into perspective, all the BOINC computing I have done over the last 2 years could  been done in 1 minute with their new computer. Of course, for most of that time I had may old computer so we could say 5 minutes with my new one.

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2014, 05:36:54 am »
OK BIG!!! and FAST!!

 :D :D :D

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2014, 01:11:34 pm »
OK BIG!!! and FAST!!

 :D :D :D

Don't look at me - I'm not very big and I've been told I'm only half fast!  ;)

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Re: Weather Forecasts improving as climate gets wilder
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2014, 04:57:30 pm »
But Dean, you aren't at the Met Office, nor are you a computer although you might be a geek, I don't know you well enough to judge. Maikel probably is a geek and I suspect there are some others around. I most certainly am not, I expect my computer to work with minimum hassle (ha! ha!) to do some basic jobs for me.

I'll trade off a bit of speed for reliability and ease any day. I had my fill of computing in the 70s when I started work on version 7 of a stats package, finished up on version 23 and the wretched thing still wouldn't do what the manual claimed! The nicest interface I ever used was on the computer that ran my X-ray analyser - programmable coloured soft keys - much nicer than drop down menus. Now I just curse every time someone re-progammes a package to do something I don't want to do and messes up all the things which I do want to do.  However I am glad that someone is prepared to put in the effort to do something useful with them, just don't ask me to do more than provide some data (and my tax money!).
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