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HMS Teutonic
« on: October 13, 2010, 04:37:52 pm »

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2010, 07:42:19 pm »

I love the way this section is shaping up.  Nice job.

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 03:10:21 pm »
Markguy,

Have to say what an amazing set of resources you've identified for HMS Teutonic. Also impressed in other forum's how supportive everyone is.

I run the www.naval-history.net side of things, and this is all well beyond expectations. Thank you.

Gordon

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2010, 04:10:59 pm »
It's been quite fun. I dearly wish I had more knowledge of some of the terminology, but my reading of the Hornblower, Master and Commander series and my Sailing merit badge don't really prepare me for this sort of thing.

The legal reference apparently has more content associated with the court martials, but the asking price for access is more than I care to spend on a maybe.

Also, forgot the most basic entry for Teutonic, mostly because in Wikipedia, it's listed as the SS Teutonic. That has the builder information, plus some other engineering information I haven't seen yet.

Finally, I sincerely hope at some point you can jump to a particular day's log entry. I'd *love* to see what was in there the week prior to the mutiny and the Wikipedia entry mentions she nearly sank in a manner similar to the Titanic and it apparently made the papers in Chicago. I suspect the handwriting for that might be a little shakier than ordinary.

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2010, 04:16:51 pm »
And I just noticed at the bottom of the Wikipedia page that the Teutonic won the Blue Riband in 1891!

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2010, 07:07:10 pm »

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 09:56:55 pm »
Hi,

I just arrived at the 6th of April 1915, the date of the entry in the American law journal. Judging from the log (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-62722/ADM%2053-62722-007_0.jpg) this seems to have been a routine operation.
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4.00am Observed vessel a/c S27E. Full speed.
4.14am Kraaknaes Lt. brg. S33E
4.25am Stopped Log 210'
4.30am Helm & engines as required.
5.00am Lowered sea boat
5.07am Boarded American S/S "Joseph W. Fordney" New York to Malmo.
6.48am Sent Prize Crew 1Lt. 1P.O. & 4 men on board. J.W. Fordney to take her into Kirkwall.
7.24am Boat returned & hoisted
7.36am Proceeded course
Can't say, why this ended in the courts.
The only anomaly, I found on the next day:
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0.38pm Dead slow speed, whilst Surgeon performed operation.
But I doubt there is a direct connection.

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 11:17:25 pm »
Probably ended in the courts because we siezed a neutral American ship.  Presumably when they inspected her, they felt she wasn't going to Malmo but blockade running to Germany or they wanted to take her into harbour at Kirkwall in order to carry out a more thorough search.

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 05:35:18 pm »
Different problem, but I want not to spam ;)

HMS Teutonic
At Sea: 59-34N, 17-15W
Nov, 4th 1915
This log

contains s/s "Pol[...]" name... beginning at 11A.M. It's been used few times.

Have anyone see that name clearly (couldn't find it with browser)?
... maybe someone of HMS Cedric crew?...
« Last Edit: January 18, 2011, 05:37:05 pm by lead_bullet »

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2011, 05:56:35 pm »
I think that this reads SS "Polarine". There was an American ship of this name. I found two references to it in the NY Times under steamship arrivals in 1919 and 1920.

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2011, 06:05:28 pm »
Thank You so much :)

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 11:01:16 pm »
Dec, 4th 1915 Tom PICTOR Stoker 1st class on Teutonic, drowned... he was recruited from R.F.R.

Description of accident is at 10.15 p.m.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-62730/ADM%2053-62730-005_0.jpg

Corpse was delivered ashore Dec, 5th
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-62730/ADM%2053-62730-005_1.jpg

R.I.P.

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2011, 06:08:25 pm »
Ship company transferred... I'm not following Cedric... What does it mean exactly?

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-62731/ADM%2053-62731-012_0.jpg

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 06:18:56 pm »
HMS Cedric was a liner that had been converted to an armed merchant cruiser. She was decommissioned in 1916 for conversion to a troopship, so it looks as if Teutonic has acquired her crew, possibly en masse, but perhaps what remained of it after everybody else had had their pick.

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Re: HMS Teutonic
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2011, 05:31:09 pm »
Some great cards with HMS Teutonic
worth looking at ;)
http://www.greatships.net/teutonic.html

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