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Zovacor

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Science Gossip
« on: April 10, 2016, 03:10:59 am »
Do folks know whether the old weather scientific team is interested in the data found in one of the journals over at ScienceGossip?  Here is an example:

http://zooniverse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/www.sciencegossip.org/subjects/standard/56c489fcbcdc2000420011ef.jpg

and, less commonly (only when there is another illustration on the page)
http://zooniverse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/www.sciencegossip.org/subjects/standard/56c48a1cbcdc200042001f61.jpg

It runs from about 1860 to 1872 in Chiswick, a suburb of London (but it also contains averages since 1827). I've been going through marking those pages when I get tired of transcribing ships, but if its data that's already in the global database I'd focus my time elsewhere.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2016, 03:21:11 am by Zovacor »

Randi

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Re: Science Gossip
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2016, 10:13:30 am »
Does this new site have a way of recording such finds?  That particular page is only monthly summaries, but there might be real observations in there somewhere.

I found weather data for February 1882!

http://zooniverse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/www.sciencegossip.org/subjects/standard/54f43b7aefc50104c3008f9f.jpg
Philip, there isn't a way to record the weather data itself. Apart from species names and artist/printers names everything else is going in as keywords. So you should be able to extract possibly interesting pages if the transcribers enter a suitable keyword.
So far, I've come across another monthly summary and one table of max & min temps for one location over several years.

Beyond putting #oldweather in the comments - as you yourself mentioned ;) - I don't know. There doesn't seem to be much you can do.
Posting page links in this topic might be helpful :-\

I will ask Philip to have a look.

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Re: Science Gossip
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2016, 10:49:58 am »
I managed to get a list of all the pages marked with the tag oldweather (Unfortunately, I can't post it as a regular hyperlink because the URL contains square brackets. Even HTML encoding doesn't help):

https://talk.sciencegossip.org/#/search?tags[oldweather]=true

Whenever I came across weather data while doing Science Gossip, I entered meteorological observations in the keywords list for that page.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2016, 10:57:39 am by Hanibal94 »

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2016, 11:47:39 am »
It's difficult to say exactly how useful these records are, because their value depends on exactly what is reported, and where and when it is from. We want instantaneous observations (not daily, weekly or longer averages), from places where we don't already have observations (not London) - I think relatively few of the science gossip weather obs would be worth extracting for their own value.

However, please do mark them when you see them, because even if we don't need those observations - they tell us there was a weather station at a particular place, at a particular date, and we can then go and search for the original observations sources. So I can see researchers scanning the science gossip  tags looking for names of possible stations, or reports on notable weather events, and then using that information in the search for further details.