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« on: December 18, 2017, 08:52:15 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2017, 02:50:50 pm »
A lot of the typewritten weather records clearly ignore the decimal point in pressure - "3000" instead of "30.00". TWYS or add the decimal?

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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2017, 02:52:53 pm »
TWYS
I have had a few in the past, so Philip is warned.

(Note: Weather and Events are optional during the Ice Hunting phase because Kevin needs the ice data as soon as possible)
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 07:42:19 pm »
If you are having trouble accessing the logs, see http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4825.msg148807#msg148807

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2018, 04:33:19 am »
Downloads for Burton Aug 1953 are slow today. 03:00 UTC onwards

Libre message for most downloads.
Unable to get image:
Make sure page number is valid.
Check internet connection.

My download speed averages about 47Mbps but the images are taking about 6 sec per image.   ???
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wow that was a quick fix, they are flying down now.   8)
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Back to 70-100KB/s download speeds.
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Re: Ask Questions Here
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2018, 01:29:31 pm »

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 04:30:07 pm »
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23790939/content/dc-metro/rg-024/594258/0006/Staten-Island-AGB-5-1955-07/Staten-Island-AGB-5-1955-07-0058.jpg

For log pages with this format

Is there no course information?
Should we transcribe the miles steamed 0000-2400?
Do you want us to record course changes on the events page to make up for lack of course info on the weather page?
What should we do with position between fixes?

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 04:43:40 pm »
As you have probably noticed, there is a special spread sheet for these pages.
(For Staten Island it is Spreadsheet July-Dec)

That is correct, there is no course info. Michael is aware of this.
He has asked us to include the synoptic locations: "If the log page includes a synoptic observations table, the locations in that table should be transcribed.".

I will check with Michael about:
  • miles steamed 0000-2400
  • course changes on the events page
  • position between
For now, my advice would to be ignore them. Fortunately, we have very few logs with this format.


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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 05:23:29 pm »
He has asked us to include the synoptic locations: "If the log page includes a synoptic observations table, the locations in that table should be transcribed.".

What format should we use to input the locations on the right side of the page, (in the Current data and position between fixes sections)

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 06:14:59 pm »
As you have probably noticed, there is a special spread sheet for these pages.
(For Staten Island it is Spreadsheet July-Dec)

That is correct, there is no course info. Michael is aware of this.
He has asked us to include the synoptic locations: "If the log page includes a synoptic observations table, the locations in that table should be transcribed.".

I will check with Michael about:
  • miles steamed 0000-2400
  • course changes on the events page
  • position between
For now, my advice would to be ignore them. Fortunately, we have very few logs with this format.

Yes, just ignore them. If I get as many positions as possible, I will make do with those, and if I really need some course information from the Event Page, I can always get it myself.

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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 06:28:47 pm »
He has asked us to include the synoptic locations: "If the log page includes a synoptic observations table, the locations in that table should be transcribed.".

What format should we use to input the locations on the right side of the page, (in the Current data and position between fixes sections)

Image in question
The trouble with those, especially with your example, is that I have no idea about the times of these positions are. Not only that, but the one between 8 AM and Noon shows the Lat as 68 02N. Obviously that is wrong, but so is 58 02N. If we assume it was his 10 AM position, we would have gone South 102 miles in two hours, and then an even larger distance north to his noon position. Perhaps it is his 10 AM position and it should be 60 02N. That's roughly halfway in between his 8 AM and Noon positions of 59 44N and 60 16N. If someone, perhaps Kevin, could ensure that is a 10 AM position, then I would be happy to use it.

Rather than lose the data, perhaps you could code it as the 2400, 1000 and 1600 positions until we hear otherwise.

I will copy this note to Kevin.

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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2018, 06:48:37 pm »
Rather than lose the data, perhaps you could code it as the 2400, 1000 and 1600 positions until we hear otherwise.

Ok, I'll do that.

P.S. to me it looks like 60 02N, with a slightly awkwardly placed degree symbol.

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 07:31:02 pm »
Rather than lose the data, perhaps you could code it as the 2400, 1000 and 1600 positions until we hear otherwise.

Ok, I'll do that.

P.S. to me it looks like 60 02N, with a slightly awkwardly placed degree symbol.

Serves me right for not magnifying the image. .. 

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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 09:09:33 pm »
It might be worth setting the Subtype to Other when transcribing the lat/long between fixes so that we do not confuse that with the normally recorded lat/long :-\

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2018, 09:19:45 pm »
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12103640/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1954-05/burton-island-agb-1-1954-05-0019.jpg

On this page, it says "GYRO OUT" in the "By Log" column, and then it says "pstgc" or "gyro" for several rows.
Should I transcribe that, or just transcribe the "By Revs" column for all the rows?