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badskittler

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Re: Pte John A Charlick
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2010, 10:14:16 am »
The Royal Marines was formed from both the Royal Marine Light Infantry and the Royal Marine Artillery. The RMLI had a range of day to day duties on board including guarding the ship whilst in port and acting as the Captain's police to enforce discipline if necessary. Larger groups might be embarked for specific landings as is the traditional role of all Marines. My Great Grandfather spent most of WWI as a RMLI reserve on board guard ships at the entrance to Chatham.

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2010, 10:46:47 pm »
Not buried at sea, but in dry dock in 1916, HMS Donegal lost 2 stokers on seperate days who fell from the ship into the dock. They were Stokers McMann and Gill and a court of Inquiry was held on board into the circumstances.

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2010, 12:17:11 am »
Hello Dorbel

Thanks for that entry.

They fell on the same day, but one died instantly and the second lingered until the next day.

Keep up the good work.

don

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2010, 11:57:04 pm »
I too had a rating die and buried in Bombay and his effects were auctioned while at sea several weeks later.

Sorry I that was some time ago so I didnt know that we should record that sort of thing here.

Ship was HMS Odin, around Xmas 1915.

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2010, 08:52:49 pm »
HMS Virginian - 8 November 1915 @ 21:22
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9:22 Body reported in dock alongside.  Telephoned police, commenced grappling.
9:45 Body found to be T. Broome RMA.  Artificial respiration tried until 11:15 pm
Life extinct.

HMS Virginian - 9 November 1915
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01:00 Body of Gr. T. Broome left ship
10:00 Sent doctor PO 12 men left ship for inquest on Gr. T. Broome.

Gr = Gunner ?
PO = Party Of ?

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2010, 09:30:06 pm »
Hello

Many thanks.  It is always good to see the note of death.

Gunner John Broome, not T. Broome, is shown as died of drowning.

"Life extinct" is a bit succinct, but does cover the meaning.

Sent Doctor and PO 12 men left ship......While PO is usually Petty Officer, in this time, it was the writer's personal shorthand for party of.

All best and keep up the good work.

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2010, 09:42:30 pm »
Gunner John Broome, not T. Broome, is shown as died of drowning.
Thanks.  Fresh enough reply for me to return and correct the first initial.
Was he with HMS Virginian or another ship?

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2010, 10:22:55 pm »
Hello

Broome is shown as VIRGINIAN.

This was an all too common scenario.  Ship in port, man returning from liberty, man slipped off gangway, or from the side of dock, etc., etc

The party of 12 sent for the inquest would have consisted of the men who bunked in his area, those last seeing him alive, and anyone have anything else to offer.

All best and keep up the good work!

don

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2010, 12:02:03 am »
On monitor M24 in Arkhangel on 2nd July 1919, AB (Able Seaman) AE Child (or Childs as he is referred to later) was part of a bathing party which left the ship and he drowned. His body was not recovered, despite a grapnel party being sent away in a whaler to drag for the body.
Although not being buried at sea, his death had implications for the crew, as on 4th July 1919, the Officer Commanding, Lt Cmdr Yorke and (presumably the Executive Officer) Lt Stewart were discharged to HMS Cicala (the flotilla leader) and a new Commanding Officer (Lt Cmdr Worsley) was appointed.

Not too sure why the Senior Management would be held responsible when there were other officers in charge of the bathing party as I have yet to see any further information. It is possible they were only relieved of their duties pending an investigation (and possible Court Martial) and may return to service later. Be nice to know the outcome!

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2010, 12:36:14 am »
Hello

Archibald E. Child, official number J 31371, drowned 2 July 1919.

His body was later recovered and buried at the Archangel Allied Cemetery.

Would be interested in the change of command, if any further notes do appear.

Many thanks.  Keep up the good work.

don

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2010, 09:55:29 pm »
Thanks Don, just got to his funeral on 7th July. Doesn't say when his body was recovered only that 'the hospital boat returned with the body of Child AB in a coffin ready for interment.'

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2010, 09:50:19 am »
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37521/ADM53-37521-0083_1.jpg

John H. Fry J41347 is in the casualty list of october 15th 1917 having died of illness on board of H.M.S. Challenger but his body came from Neuralia.

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2010, 10:28:01 am »
Hello H. Kohler

Thanks for Fry's death note.

He was in NEURALIA with enteric fever since CHALLENGER did not have sufficient facilites to care for him.  Body was returned to CHALLENGER for disposition. 

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2010, 10:41:46 am »
John Hendry Fry was buried at sea Lat 8 59S Long 39 37E at about 5.15pm on 15/10/1917. The burial service was read andthis was recorded in Challenger's log

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Re: Burials at sea
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2010, 05:55:33 pm »
Thanks for the informations, I must have missed the day when he was transferred to Neuralia.