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Kathy

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #615 on: December 07, 2011, 08:14:10 pm »
ship poacher!  I was captain of the Aphis!

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #618 on: December 07, 2011, 09:28:17 pm »
HMS Canterbury, 18th January 1918, record of ship being swung for deviation, scanned in two parts:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-36985/0013_0.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-36985/0013_1.jpg

A third and fourth pages which I'm guessing are part of the same:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-36985/0014_0.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-36985/0014_1.jpg
« Last Edit: December 07, 2011, 09:31:45 pm by helenj »

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #619 on: December 08, 2011, 06:49:31 pm »
Astraea on Monday 13 July 1914 in Durban
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-34352/ADM53-34352-056_0.jpg

8.00 Tried one gun and hoisted Court Martial Jack
9.15 Exercised physical drill.  Coxswains and bowmen of boats at signals. Discharged one A.B. to hospital
9.30 Court martial assembled on board
11.40 Court martial rose

The rest of the day was rather mundane - the usual obsessive cleaning of the ship, painting flats and the second cutter, dismantling the 6-pounder guns, prayers, exercising the searchlights etc.  Around mid-day they also had divers cleaning inlets for something beginning with "c".


Astraea on Wednesday 15 July 1914
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-34352/ADM53-34352-057_0.jpg

At the bottom of the page an oval stamp 'H.M.S. "Astraea" 16 Jul. 1914'
the word 'approved' and the Captain's scrawl.  Maybe to do with the discharge of a prisoner and escorts to another ship at 5.45pm.  The person who was court martialled two days earlier, perhaps?
« Last Edit: December 08, 2011, 07:10:22 pm by CousinJenny »

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #620 on: December 08, 2011, 09:56:04 pm »
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68463/ADM%2053-68463-005_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68463/ADM%2053-68463-005_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68463/ADM%2053-68463-006_0.jpg

Two pages of Deviation readings, and one of positions of correctors, ("which our case we have not got") from HMS Weymouth, in Port of Spain, Trinidad, April 1917.

Enjoy!!
K
« Last Edit: December 08, 2011, 10:07:20 pm by Tegwen »

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #621 on: December 09, 2011, 11:50:33 pm »
 8)  Cool page in the Raven II's log, circa June 13-September 1917: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57315/ADM%2053-57315-003_1.jpg

Explains how to care for the book, codes to be used, etc.


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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #622 on: December 10, 2011, 02:04:06 am »
Raven II's log, 1917 (18 June): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57315/ADM%2053-57315-009_1.jpg

Warrants No. 147 & 148 on Ldg. Sea. Matthews & E. J. Roberts A.B. read.

Later:

E. J. Roberts A.B. dist to R.N. Depot for detention 30 days at Cairo

(Usually the warrant entries do not include the names of the crew members to which the warrants pertained...)

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #623 on: December 10, 2011, 10:19:22 pm »
8)  Cool page in the Raven II's log, circa June 13-September 1917: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57315/ADM%2053-57315-003_1.jpg

Explains how to care for the book, codes to be used, etc.

That's brilliant, chommel - makes it all clear what their job was.
Presumably this rubric is in all the books, is this the first time that has appeared in the page images?

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #624 on: December 10, 2011, 10:33:18 pm »
Usually we see the copies rather than the original. I have not seen this page, but I have seen similar pages.
(e.g., Lancaster http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-46000/ADM%2053-46000-005_0.jpg)

I notice that the instructions for Raven specify using pencil...

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #625 on: December 11, 2011, 12:12:01 am »
Fascinating - I haven't seen anything like these two (but then I haven't been aboard nearly as many ships!)

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #626 on: December 11, 2011, 01:45:03 am »
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That's brilliant, chommel - makes it all clear what their job was.
Presumably this rubric is in all the books, is this the first time that has appeared in the page images?

Not at all, there is one posted in the stickied info posts in FAQ and Rules and Information boards.  They appear in the original logs which remained with the ship for an entire voyage and filled out by various on-duty lieutenants 24/7.  These books are thick, between 2 and 13 months of pages.

Every month, a writer or another lieutenant copies the entire month into one of the stack of short books the ship also had, and mailed it home to the Admiralty at the soonest possible time.  This is why we do have full logs of ships who sank with their original logs still on board.

The copied logs did not waste paper on instructions of how to fill the the logs out.  They also do not have a very interesting page where the officers may list a full description of the ship, from the type of engines to how many cannon and boats the ship possesses.  These pages are always meticulously filled out for the the first book of any voyage, and are very interesting.  And if we happen to have both original and copied logs for any month, the team loves it - it tells them what the RN's accuracy was in these things.

Most of our logs are copies.  This has the advantage of being a bit neater, using only one handwriting and presumably not being done when the ship is pitching and rolling a lot.  But the original logs are fun, and it's nice knowing they were in the ship for a while.  It's not so nice when someone is writing during a patch of bad weather, or finds out a long note is needed at 11:45 when they'd already filled something in at 11:30.

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #627 on: December 11, 2011, 02:08:44 am »
8)  Cool page in the Raven II's log, circa June 13-September 1917: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57315/ADM%2053-57315-003_1.jpg

Explains how to care for the book, codes to be used, etc.

That's brilliant, chommel - makes it all clear what their job was.
Presumably this rubric is in all the books, is this the first time that has appeared in the page images?

I have never seen this page in any of the other logs that I've worked on, but perhaps others have?


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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #628 on: December 11, 2011, 02:37:06 am »
I have, but only read the tables: half way down.
That pencil business is interesting.
I have seen pages written in pencil.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37556/C2-ADM53-37556-028_1.jpg
Some of the text has been smeared but it's still visible. I suspect that it was a "standard" graphite pencil, rather than the indelible pencil that was once so frequently used by people who required a signature for a delivery etc.
http://pencils.wikia.com/wiki/Indelible_Pencils
Nice variety of spelling.

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Re: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
« Reply #629 on: December 11, 2011, 02:40:39 am »
Thanks, JJ, for the explanation.  Crystal clear & informative (as ever)!!