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DJ_59

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General Questions
« on: October 10, 2010, 01:08:53 am »
This is the place to ask questions that are more general.  Some don't fit in the topics that are finely focused on specific aspects.  This is the catch-all for those questions.


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Re: General Questions
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 06:57:32 am »
Can we please have a new dropdown in the new interface.
Events, ship, "Boarded for Inspection"
It may not get used much with the new logs but you never know.

Just found the correct thread in Technical issues.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 07:29:19 am by pommystuart »

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2012, 07:32:38 am »
Does anybody keep check if a transcriber is making the same mistakes over and over again?
When I was data entering for B.M.D. I sometimes got a message pointing out a mistake.
I would not like to be entering the same type of mistake over and over again again, and not know it.

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2012, 07:48:03 am »
Does anybody keep check if a transcriber is making the same mistakes over and over again?
When I was data entering for B.M.D. I sometimes got a message pointing out a mistake.
I would not like to be entering the same type of mistake over and over again again, and not know it.

No, unless it's a technical mistake that the software cannot perform.  It would be nice.

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 07:50:54 am »
Can we please have a new dropdown in the new interface.
Events, ship, "Boarded for Inspection"
It may not get used much with the new logs but you never know.

Just found the correct thread in Technical issues.

We've been asking for revisions in Event/Ship from the start, and it didn't really help.  I'm not sure why the PTB disliked that request.  Hopefully they will do something different in Phase III.

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 06:03:27 am »
Hello.  I just started transcribing and I am on my first page.  I looked half way down for the longitude and latitude and there were no values in the boxes.  Also I looked under the date to see if the ship was at port and there was nothing noted.   I can enter the weather information but it will not reflect the location of the ship.  The vessel is called the HMS Moorhen.  The date I believe in the log is thursday May 17, 1923 page 47.  Get back with me if you have any info about what to do.

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 06:47:32 am »
Welcome to OW and the forum, Allenb120!

The Golden Rule for transcribing Date, Locations and Weather:
Type exactly what you see on the page.

The Golden Rule for right column comments:
If and only if that particular comment interests you, type exactly what you see. 

Even if the log keeper has been sloppy, left blanks or made stupid mistakes.  This is to make a historically-accurate transcription of an original document.  There are also editing and review functions that later give us a chance to correct and improve the original document, so don't worry about it now.

Every time the ship is in port and frequently when they are inland on a river or sailing within sight of a coast, lat.long. readings are not taken.  They are necessary only when out in the open sea.  Frequently, especially when confined to a port or river, log keepers get sloppy and forget to record their position on the heading and noon boxes.  But there will be days before and after that page that will inform the team of the ship's location.  Please, when they leave the official location boxes blank, try to transcribe any landmarks they sight in the right column.

HMS Moorhen is a special gunboat.  She is usually on the Pearl River above Hong Kong in China, and had the honor of escorting Dr. Sun Yat Sen out of China at one point in his travels.  :)
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2627.msg39061#msg39061
« Last Edit: July 12, 2012, 06:50:48 am by Janet Jaguar »

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 08:31:52 am »
Hello Allenb120,
I'm also working on Moorhen and also transcribed that page (each page is done by 3 people). The log keeper didn't enter a port but did put where they were travelling from and to (under the ship's name top left hand corner of the page). You can enter this is the 'Port' field on the location tab as 'Tiger Island to Canton' or 'From Tiger Island to Canton'.
I've never seen a lat/long entry on the Moorhen but as they're in the river hopefully that will make it easier for the team to locate than the ships that don't do this when they are in the middle of the sea!

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2012, 05:00:02 pm »
Pure nosiness. but can anyone help with what 'muster by open list' means, please? - this is the second time I've noticed it on the Intrepid - a supply ship

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44882/ADM%2053-44882-005_1.jpg

Thank'ee kindly,
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Re: General Questions
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2012, 05:17:23 pm »
It's where the crew is mustered* and reports their Name, Rank and division to be checked against the official crewlist. Goes back to when ships companies had 'ghost crewmen' so that the pursor could sell off excess supplies drawn against the non existent crewmen

* Usually alphabetically   

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2012, 06:11:14 pm »
Ohhhh! That's fascinating PeteB9 - thank you!  ;D
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Re: General Questions
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2012, 06:28:31 pm »
Hello,

I'm new to this so sorry if this question has been answered already. I tried searching but didn't find an answer.

On one log I've looked at today there are temperature numbers for Air, Bulb but Sea is left blank. I tried inputting this exactly as it appears in the log, however on the right hand side where it shows my data entries, I see Air = blank, and readings for Bulb and Sea.

Has anyone else experienced this? I do not want to add a zero when there is a blank space in the actual log. What should I do?

Thanks in advance

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2012, 06:34:11 pm »
Welcome on board!

We are just starting a completely new phase with American ships, so there are some problems.

One of them is that the display on the right side is incorrect. Don't worry, the data is saved correctly! So, just input what you see in the log.



I also strongly suggest that you look at the following post: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3008.msg48054#msg48054

Other possibly useful topics are:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2937.0
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=4.0
and
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=14.0

I'm afraid that we are not too organized ;)
« Last Edit: August 09, 2012, 06:53:23 pm by randi_2 »

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2012, 02:13:10 am »
Hi
Where should interesting log pages go from the P3 ships?
In the new P3 ships under 'ships, Battles etc' or elsewhere.

Example which I think I have seen posted by Craig.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20243_1.jpg

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Re: General Questions
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2012, 02:41:02 am »
We have official word that the forum will not be moving, so you can start another thread in the Dockside Cafe, something like "Arctic ships' interesting pages" or whatever title pleases you.

There are already several pages of Riveting Log Entries in the old thread also, so you may wish to keep on using it.